Hi Guys!

[Billybobguyperson Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Billybobguyperson]

So I started PE because I'm awful with women. The last three women I was with said I was too small. And yeah it messed me up. It's been 5 years since then and I haven't even approached a new woman. I understand that I can use my tongue and hands and toys but I still want my dick to be enough too... regardless this is what I'm experiencing so far:

So I admit I screwed up before but I learned from it. I just don't understand what to do now. I started PE in January and like an idiot I used a bathmate. I know. I'm stupid. I learned. I got rid of it. I made gains and then lost everything. I took a couple months break and recovered. Everything is normal. Normal erection strength/size. I'd like to note there was no pain just lost all my progress.

Then I started over with stretches and jelqing. I noticed turtling and no progress. Maybe I did it for too long. I did it for 20 min. Or I pulled to hard. But I saw no progress.

I wait 2 more months and this time I just stretched for 20 min after a 15 min warm up. I did it for a month...I started jelqing this week every other day. 10 min. After 10 min stretch and 20 min warm up. Light jelqing and I mean really light. But I'm still turtling...I didn't gain anything from he stretching but I was hanging better and saw that as a positive thing. I don't know what I'm doing wrong and I don't want to wait 2 months again.

Should I just stop jelqing and stretch. I'm mainly looking for girth. I want length but girth is a bit more important to me

BPEL 5.75
Girth 4.5
NPEL 5.25

Bone pressed FLACCID length 4 in
Not bone pressed flaccid length 3 in
Flaccid girth 3.5

What should I do? I've read the forums but im just asking if someone has had this specific or similar issue? It seems like jelqing isn't working. Or should I just stick with it for three months for only 5 minutes every other day? Thanks for the help!

Sorry for the long post. But as you can tell I'm desperate. I'm almost 30 and I just want something to work. Even just a little.

[BigandBad Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BigandBad]

Did you not do JP90?
https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginne...r-routine.html

I did a mod of JP90 and it’s worked for me, I was worried about injury so I lowered the amount.

I think your turtling problem is do to lack of Helicopter Shakes which help with blood flow during and after PE. Basically like stretching, OK sign at the base of penis and spin in a circle 20 Times real fast.

Starting Month Routine:
10 Minute Warmup hot rag in warm/hot shower

30 Second Stretch Left,Right,Up,Straight, with 20 Helicopters Rotations and 10 Longer Rotations in between each Direction stretch.

50 Jelqs(+10 each week) lasting 3 seconds each.

5 Minute warm down.

So far have gained .5 Length and .25 girth on 3 months.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I believe you should concentrate on your love making technique. I kept my wife satisfied for over 40 years with a dick smaller than yours. It’s not the size but the relationship that provides the most satisfaction.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Welcome to the forum!

If I may ask- do you have a large fat pad occluding the base of your penis? Your BPEL is actually statistically above average, so a large fat pad could be giving the illusion you're not as long as you are.