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I've been using a penis extender for 2 months now and that is my first experience with penis enlargement.
I signed up to the x4labs.com forums (makers of the p.e. I use) just hours ago and after I saw an ad for the bathmate after following some links I tried to find user reviews of it and found the pegym forums! I had a look around and thought it's a great place, so I signed up right away, to learn from experienced users and share my own (hopefully success-) story as it develops.
Personally I don't believe in permanent, measurable size gains through cremes, pills, pumps and jelqing or other massages. I'm pretty scientific and every trustworthy doctor says jelqing is useless and even harmful, as it numbs your glans when done regularly. Not speaking about the bruises you get from overdoing it, because overdoing anything is naturally harmful -- that's in the definition of overdoing it
-- and only your own fault. So, I've never seen a scientific study that said jelqing, massages, pumps, pills and cremes had any permanent effect on penis length and/or girth. I know a lot of users say they see results but a lot of those people also don't measure or when they do there's not enough progress to be considered statistically significant, especially considering that one gets over enthusiastic when measuring one's own dick. (I certainly did!)
The only option for me seemed to be an extender. So, after one month and 51hrs total (I used it 17 days out of the whole month for and average of 3hrs/day) of true, real-life dick torture I achieved these gains:
F-Length: 9.5cm/10.5cm to 14.5cm (+~4.5cm)
F-Girth: 11.5cm to 13cm (+1.5cm)
E-Length: 15-16cm to 17cm (+~1.5cm)
E-Girth: 14.5 to 15cm (+0.5cm)
(apology to the people using inches; I hope you have a measuring tape with inches on one side and cm on the other, that would make things easier.)
So, my results pretty much mirror what's promised by x4, in that flaccid length grew the most, erect girth the least and so on. I admit to myself that I might not have measured proficiently in the beginning. I sure had to learn how to measure properly and I got better as time went by. I pretty much considered my measurements for the first month void.Speaking scientifically it could have all been due to faulty measurements, even though I took the greatest care to measure properly. So, that said, here are the measurements after the second month of penis extension:
F-Length: 14.5cm to 15 (+0.5cm)
F-Girth: 13cm to 13.5-14cm (+0.5cm/1cm)
E-Length: 17cm to 18cm (+1cm)
E-Girth: 15cm to 15.5cm (+0.5cm)
Now these measurements I believe. The only thing I don't believe is that that growth happened with 18 days of use, 29.5 hours total = 1.6 hours per day. But then, I did gain much more with the first 51 hours; 8cm all measurement sites considered versus 2.5-3cm.
That makes me super motivated to continue with more intensity and get my penis to an erect length of 22cm (= 8 3/4 inch) and my erect girth to 18cm (7 inch)!
If there's any other thread where it would make more sense to post my progress, please tell me! Just to make sure in case I don't find it myself. Thanks!
Raphael
P.S.: Thanks for letting me join these forums. ;D
I signed up to the x4labs.com forums (makers of the p.e. I use) just hours ago and after I saw an ad for the bathmate after following some links I tried to find user reviews of it and found the pegym forums! I had a look around and thought it's a great place, so I signed up right away, to learn from experienced users and share my own (hopefully success-) story as it develops.
Personally I don't believe in permanent, measurable size gains through cremes, pills, pumps and jelqing or other massages. I'm pretty scientific and every trustworthy doctor says jelqing is useless and even harmful, as it numbs your glans when done regularly. Not speaking about the bruises you get from overdoing it, because overdoing anything is naturally harmful -- that's in the definition of overdoing it
-- and only your own fault. So, I've never seen a scientific study that said jelqing, massages, pumps, pills and cremes had any permanent effect on penis length and/or girth. I know a lot of users say they see results but a lot of those people also don't measure or when they do there's not enough progress to be considered statistically significant, especially considering that one gets over enthusiastic when measuring one's own dick. (I certainly did!)The only option for me seemed to be an extender. So, after one month and 51hrs total (I used it 17 days out of the whole month for and average of 3hrs/day) of true, real-life dick torture I achieved these gains:
F-Length: 9.5cm/10.5cm to 14.5cm (+~4.5cm)
F-Girth: 11.5cm to 13cm (+1.5cm)
E-Length: 15-16cm to 17cm (+~1.5cm)
E-Girth: 14.5 to 15cm (+0.5cm)
(apology to the people using inches; I hope you have a measuring tape with inches on one side and cm on the other, that would make things easier.
)So, my results pretty much mirror what's promised by x4, in that flaccid length grew the most, erect girth the least and so on. I admit to myself that I might not have measured proficiently in the beginning. I sure had to learn how to measure properly and I got better as time went by. I pretty much considered my measurements for the first month void.Speaking scientifically it could have all been due to faulty measurements, even though I took the greatest care to measure properly. So, that said, here are the measurements after the second month of penis extension:
F-Length: 14.5cm to 15 (+0.5cm)
F-Girth: 13cm to 13.5-14cm (+0.5cm/1cm)
E-Length: 17cm to 18cm (+1cm)
E-Girth: 15cm to 15.5cm (+0.5cm)
Now these measurements I believe. The only thing I don't believe is that that growth happened with 18 days of use, 29.5 hours total = 1.6 hours per day. But then, I did gain much more with the first 51 hours; 8cm all measurement sites considered versus 2.5-3cm.
That makes me super motivated to continue with more intensity and get my penis to an erect length of 22cm (= 8 3/4 inch) and my erect girth to 18cm (7 inch)!
If there's any other thread where it would make more sense to post my progress, please tell me! Just to make sure in case I don't find it myself. Thanks!
Raphael
P.S.: Thanks for letting me join these forums. ;D
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