Confidence Crushed

[sphinx Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sphinx]

Hi all,

I never had confidence issues regarding my penis size until now. At 21 years old I possess what I always thought was a relatively mediocre penis. My current and starting stats are NBPEL 6.0", EG 4.5". I always thought this was average. Truthfully, I guess I still sort of do think it's average? Granted, the girth is a bit on the smaller side.... but even then I never thought I was so lacking in thickness I should be downright embarrassed about it. That is, until my gf dumped me several days ago. Unfortunately in the breakup turmoil she started telling whoever would listen that I had an extremely small pecker girth-wise and that she could "hardly feel a thing" whenever we had sex. Whether accurate of my penis or not.... the term "pencil dick" cut deep. It still rings in my head. Within a matter of days I went from being secure in my self-perceived "perfectly-average-although-nothing-to-brag-about-penis" to wanting to crawl into a hole and stay there, doubting if I will ever be able to satisfy any my future partners.

Naturally, I turned to the internet to see if I could somehow solve my EG problem. :P After seeing all of the ads for magic pills etc that seemed like scams PE gym found its way to my browser. After lurking for a bit, seeing the success stories, and no promises of some magic cure - you get what you put in and time and dedication is key - I decided to sign up. I do not want to have a pencil dick any more! An avid weight lifter for many years, the commitment and sticking to a routine aspect of PE really spoke to me.

I am hoping to one day go from current 6.0" NBPEL, 4.5" EG to -> 7.0" NBPEL, 5.5" EG. I realize this may take time. Even years. But that is okay with me as I realize this is a long-term commitment.

Short term I'd be thrilled to see any gains. Although, obviously, given my girth insecurities reaching 4.75" EG is a short-term goal I'd love to accomplish. Anything to get closer to the "average" EG and regain some confidence as sad as that sounds. I hope both these short and long-term goals are realistic.

At any rate, that is my story! Sorry for rambling and I cannot wait to train with such a great community with you all!

[Tharros Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tharros]

Welcome to the gym!

Don't worry about what she said. It was only meant to hurt you. But you are right, commitment is defiantly the key. Commit and you will see gains. My girth really worries me too, but I have seen pretty good gains in the 5 months I have been PEing.

Start with JP90 and a log in the progress forum and go from there.

[pterodactyl Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pterodactyl]

Hey man I feel you on the insecurity thing. I started at 4.5EG as well. Let me tell you that when I measured one day and saw 4.75 it kind of changed my life =) I can't say I don't fall back into the negativiity from time to time but then think to myself that this actually works. It took me 3 months to gain a quarter inch and I have topped out so far at 3/8ths. Last month I had to take a break for almost 2 weeks and lost a little bit (my sig is not updated) but I am confident that it will come back and that eventually I will reach my goal. Good luck to you sir and don't let any girl (especially one like you described) make you feel like less of a man. Do this for yourself. It works =)

[Thick_Unit Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Thick_Unit]

Hi all,

I never had confidence issues regarding my penis size until now. At 21 years old I possess what I always thought was a relatively mediocre penis. My current and starting stats are NBPEL 6.0", EG 4.5". I always thought this was average. Truthfully, I guess I still sort of do think it's average? Granted, the girth is a bit on the smaller side.... but even then I never thought I was so lacking in thickness I should be downright embarrassed about it. That is, until my gf dumped me several days ago. Unfortunately in the breakup turmoil she started telling whoever would listen that I had an extremely small pecker girth-wise and that she could "hardly feel a thing" whenever we had sex. Whether accurate of my penis or not.... the term "pencil dick" cut deep. It still rings in my head. Within a matter of days I went from being secure in my self-perceived "perfectly-average-although-nothing-to-brag-about-penis" to wanting to crawl into a hole and stay there, doubting if I will ever be able to satisfy any my future partners.

Just stop thinking about the negative crap and it should bounce back better then before.

[soundkick Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soundkick]

On one hand it's great that she complained about your penis because it means that she knew she had little or no weapons to hit you otherwise, which ultimately makes you a "bigger" man than average. Also bear in mind that women tend to be painful with words (and the whole psychology thing) if they can, unlike men who are more physical in regards to the average conflict.

As far as PE it sure works and not without patience belief and commitment. I've only been on it for a little over a month but solid and feel much better about the whole "handful" of my penis.

I'm quite a bit older than you are, I have the "average penis" and I imagine some experience packed away. Let me share a brief story with you:

I once dated a model in Paris (I was 34 she was 23) and when we first kissed she put her hand on my small package. We were in her home. I still remember the sadness portrayed on her face as she encountered my "erecting-and-therefore-mediocre" penis. I didn't give a shit at the time as I was enjoying the moment. The following night we went for dinner and she literally said the following: "I'm sorry but last night I felt your dick and it's really small. I have a massive pussy really deep and I need huge dicks, like this big (and she drew a 10' x 6' penis with her hands). I hope you don't get offended by this but there is no way we can have sex, I'm just not interested. I know I will not feel anything. Plus you have a hairy chest and I hate that" We later went to a novelty store to buy cigarettes (that's what you also find in NS in Paris ) and she pointed at a 13' dildo saying "this is a fucking great one! This is what you need". Then she laughed and I grinned.

I will not deny that I was a little surprised by her insistence and somehow worried. I had been with a high number of girls and never (I say never) had a size problem. And I have an average penis. An average penis that on me looks even smaller

The only thing I could do was go further into this whole thing, literally

I told her "let's get a room in a hotel that has a good solid bed and let's have sex. If you don't like it we'll be friends. If on the other hand you like it, we both win." She agreed and the following night I booked a room in a cheap place that I knew had some solid wooden beds.

From the minute we walked into the room I treated her like she was the only woman on the planet, with the confidence of being the man that was giving her his full attention..

Foreplay, kisses, the whole thing. Not because it's written on "The-Great-Lover-Books" but because it FEELS GREAT.

I will always remember her grabbing my pathetically average penis and looking at me with those beautiful eyes saying "I was wrong, you actually have a great cock!". A great cock????? Come on, it's a 6.5 x 5 ahahahahahah....... there's nothing "great" about it. She meant it. She was being honest: she came several times, we made love for hours. We kept doing it for a whole week.

One day the magic ended. We went to FNAC (music store) to buy a CD and there were some broken escalators. She tripped over the first step, obviously unable to determine the difference from what she had always seen. Then she laughed at some stupid joke and she said something stupid about a movie or a book. I just somehow couldn't want her anymore.

I don't know if you'll get something out of this, I'm not trying to say anything about women, size or sex. All I'm saying is:

Living is about getting the best out of what we have. PE will get the best out of your penis, but make sure you don't expect your penis to get the best out of you

Have a good day.

[should've started sooner Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close should've started sooner]

Welcome! Got similar starting stats to you and am also an avid weight lifter. Let's change ourselves for the better.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Well I hope you found ways to make her life a misery so she doesn;'t go this route again . Women usually get a free hit with this , thus it;s popularity.

[schlittle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close schlittle]

Hi Sphinx , welcome to the gym!

I wouldn't let what she said ruin your confidence because women often make mistakes. For example check out this hilarious video in the link below and you'll see this guy correct his friend who wrongly thought he had a small penis.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/gym/3521-huge-vagina.html

[somebodyelse Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close somebodyelse]

Sound Kick, Thanks for that story that was hopeful or a lot of guys.

Sphinx i'm so sorry you had to live through this. This is something women do to guys way more often than they should. It's just disgusting behavior...

[Shortdog Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Shortdog]

You have great starting stats!!

You will reach your goals for sure ig you stay motivated!!

[Freaky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Freaky]

Dude...welcome to OUR world of consistently hearing such stuff!
Also welcome to the Gym...you will LOVE it here,as I and the rest of the members have.Good Luck with your goals and of course:
"Be Consistent!"

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

Hi all,

My current and starting stats are NBPEL 6.0", EG 4.5". I always thought this was average. Truthfully, I guess I still sort of do think it's average?

Those are average stats. She'll see them again, and again, and again, and again...

[itsaverage Banned Find all posts View Profile Close itsaverage]

If she didn't do that, you wouldn't know. If you didn't know, you wouldn't be able to create the perfect Dick for your future wife. Thank that bitch. Get bigger. Fuck her friend. Rumors will stop. You'll have the last laugh. Thank that bitch.

[dejaview Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dejaview]

On one hand it's great that she complained about your penis because it means that she knew she had little or no weapons to hit you otherwise, which ultimately makes you a "bigger" man than average. Also bear in mind that women tend to be painful with words (and the whole psychology thing) if they can, unlike men who are more physical in regards to the average conflict.

As far as PE it sure works and not without patience belief and commitment. I've only been on it for a little over a month but solid and feel much better about the whole "handful" of my penis.

I'm quite a bit older than you are, I have the "average penis" and I imagine some experience packed away. Let me share a brief story with you:

I once dated a model in Paris (I was 34 she was 23) and when we first kissed she put her hand on my small package. We were in her home. I still remember the sadness portrayed on her face as she encountered my "erecting-and-therefore-mediocre" penis. I didn't give a shit at the time as I was enjoying the moment. The following night we went for dinner and she literally said the following: "I'm sorry but last night I felt your dick and it's really small. I have a massive pussy really deep and I need huge dicks, like this big (and she drew a 10' x 6' penis with her hands). I hope you don't get offended by this but there is no way we can have sex, I'm just not interested. I know I will not feel anything. Plus you have a hairy chest and I hate that" We later went to a novelty store to buy cigarettes (that's what you also find in NS in Paris ) and she pointed at a 13' dildo saying "this is a fucking great one! This is what you need". Then she laughed and I grinned.

I will not deny that I was a little surprised by her insistence and somehow worried. I had been with a high number of girls and never (I say never) had a size problem. And I have an average penis. An average penis that on me looks even smaller

The only thing I could do was go further into this whole thing, literally

I told her "let's get a room in a hotel that has a good solid bed and let's have sex. If you don't like it we'll be friends. If on the other hand you like it, we both win." She agreed and the following night I booked a room in a cheap place that I knew had some solid wooden beds.

From the minute we walked into the room I treated her like she was the only woman on the planet, with the confidence of being the man that was giving her his full attention..

Foreplay, kisses, the whole thing. Not because it's written on "The-Great-Lover-Books" but because it FEELS GREAT.

I will always remember her grabbing my pathetically average penis and looking at me with those beautiful eyes saying "I was wrong, you actually have a great cock!". A great cock????? Come on, it's a 6.5 x 5 ahahahahahah....... there's nothing "great" about it. She meant it. She was being honest: she came several times, we made love for hours. We kept doing it for a whole week.

One day the magic ended. We went to FNAC (music store) to buy a CD and there were some broken escalators. She tripped over the first step, obviously unable to determine the difference from what she had always seen. Then she laughed at some stupid joke and she said something stupid about a movie or a book. I just somehow couldn't want her anymore.

I don't know if you'll get something out of this, I'm not trying to say anything about women, size or sex. All I'm saying is:

Living is about getting the best out of what we have. PE will get the best out of your penis, but make sure you don't expect your penis to get the best out of you

Have a good day.

Jeez, what a downright horrible experience for you. And I give you credit for your patience and tolerance through the whole ordeal. I know I would have the heck out of there at the first belittling, no pun intended pls, remark she made to you. ..
Not to parse your post of anything of the sort, but when she said she had a "deep pussy" and needed "huge dicks" ....did the penny drop at all with you that maybe she is trying to get away from you and is using language that is purposefully offensive to turn you off her?...But to be taken to the smoke store and willingly indulge her comments on giant 13" dildos and grin along ......I may be wrong but I think in her mind she is thinking this guy is a sucker for punishment....and he just grins along ....

Listen I think at the end of the day , no matter if your pecker is 5 or 10 inches, it really does not matter if you have not got the basic sense of self worth to stand up for youself and understand that you are bigger than your dick.

[sphinx Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sphinx]

Seeking feeback

Thank you all for the friendly welcome!

I have been doing lots of reading and research on this forum and, as indicated in my original post, I want to take my time with this process keeping my focus on some nice LONG-TERM gains. I have decided on taking the following beginner's approach to PE:

- 1.5 months PESG's routine: this starting routine seems a bit less intense than JP's and has the added bonus of taking less time. Thus, I feel it would be a great way to first get into PE and "condition" my penis. The fact some men have decent gains with this routine is an added bonus!
- After the 1.5 months of PESG's routine I will commence the 3 month JP routine.
- Devise my own routine following the above and continue indefinitely, making tweaks along the way to coincide with my goals etc.

Does this look a good plan of attack to you more senior PEers? I also plan on measuring after completing both PESG's and JP's routines. I know not to expect great gains to manifest themselves immediately.... although I'd be thrilled if I could get some of the "newbie" gains some other men on this forum have experienced .... but my measuring is more so to foster my "don't rock the boat" alternative. If I am seeing gains on either of the above routines I plan to simply continue with them until gains taper and THEN make the switch.

E.g. If I am making gains with PESG's routine I may not switch to JPs until 3 months in..... if JPs has me seeing gains for 5+ months I'll likely just stick with that before making my own workout.

Thoughts on this approach?

Thanks again guys!