COMPLETELY new to PE

[yoga guy Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close yoga guy]

Hello, I have had low self esteem and low confidence pretty much all my life. I recently realized some of it had to do with the size of my penis. On a good day I am 2 inches when NOT hard. I know this is fairly common and it really doesnt matter how large you are when you are not erect, but I cannot let it stop bothering me.... Its been more recently Ive had an issue with this. Ive been having a lot of psychological problems lately.. like depression, anxiety ETC ETC ETC. and now when I walk around, I feel like people can tell through my pants that theres practically nothing there When erect, I have a between 5-6 inches and I guess slightly good girth. But I need improvement for sure. I know it's stupid, but I will have a lot more confidence if I had a little more, even just a little more when Im not erect.

I did some research, and I plan on going with a bathmate hydromax30 (unless someone tells me otherwise). The only issue Im having is which one I should purchase. I do not have enough money to go with the smallest bathmate and work my way up... I dont even know which one is the smallest.. whether its the hercules or the hydromax. From what I gathered, the hydromax is a little better quality. Is it worth the extra 50 dollars compared to the hercules??? and also will I have any isse if I start with the hydromax? Like I mentioned, I can really only afford one. I also saw the jelqing device, I may be able to afford that too.

I gotta do something about this issue because I have never realized just how bad its gotten with my anxiety. I would like to order this as soon as possible... So what would you recommend? I appreciate any suggestions or tips because Im in bad shape both physically and mentally.

[faithandhope Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close faithandhope]

You will feel better, my flaccid has grown pretty significantly in a short period of time, you will notice though No information on pumps though, sorry.

[Captain Jack Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Captain Jack]

I know it's stupid, but I will have a lot more confidence if I had a little more, even just a little more when Im not erect..

Hey, yoga guy! Welcome to the gym! First of all, your feelings are NOT stupid. They might be a little unfounded, but they aren't stupid. I'd suggest getting real measurements rather than your estimates, that might help you feel better anyway, but it sounds like you are well within the "average" range. So there's really nothing to feel bad about. Of course, self-esteem and confidence don't always work logically, so it's easier said than done to get over the penis size insecurities. But don't worry, you are completely "normal!"

As far as devices go, I'm going to give you the advice that you will probably hear a lot around here, but it's good advice. Don't get a device right away. Spend some time reading the many discussions in the gym and you'll get a better sense of why I say that. But you're going to be better off conditioning your penis first with a manual routine. My suggestion would be to do JP90 before you ever worry about a device. If you are determined to get a device, I'd suggest skipping the bathmate for right now. I'd personally recommend getting an extender (there are plenty of good brands at decent prices). If you really want a pump, I'd suggest a good air pump over a hydro pump. If you really want a hydropump, then yeah, go with the Bathmate X30. It should have everything you'll need/want for quite a while, if you ever upgrade beyond it it will probably be by choice rather than by necessity. As far as a jelqing device, I'd discourage you from getting one of the expensive ones. You can find good ones on ebay for a fraction of the price of the expensive ones. And honestly you don't really NEED a jelqing device unless you can't use both of your hands for jelqing.

But again, I really strongly encourage you to do JP90 before you venture into any devices! If you want to read about my experience with devices to see my reasoning, click the link in my signature to read my blog. I talk a lot about the devices I have and use on there. Hope that helps! Good luck with whatever you decide.

[hihopes1286 Member Find all posts View Profile Close hihopes1286]

Yeah I would definitely do the JP90. If you are more concerned with length than girth and really want to try a device, I would get an extender. The pumps are more for girth. Good luck and welcome to the gym.

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

I've seen a lot of men come here with concern for their flaccid size (it's one of the reasons I was insecure when I joined), so your feelings aren't abnormal at all.

Forget the bathmate for now, look into the JP90 in the beginner's forum, and start there. There are no guarantees, but in 18 months I went from a complete "grower" (flaccid around 3", under 50% of my erect length at the time), to now my flaccid is often larger than my starting erect size in girth, and nearly as long as my starting erect size in length. It's definitely a huge confidence booster and greatly helped me get over my insecurities.

Good luck

[MovingUp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MovingUp]

I gotta reiterate what faithandhope is saying about flaccid length gains happening fast ... within the first few months of JP90 i went from average to now 5 - 6 1/2 bone pressed consistently flaccid .... now it's pretty damn thin so it aint really showing much in my jeans just yet but lol if you've got good girth then maybe you will !