Hello everyone!

[PE_Beliver Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Beliver]

Hello everyone. I've been a lurker on this site for about 10 days now hehe. First of all i want to thank you all for providing so much information regarding PE in so much detail!
I am 25 years old, healthy. 6.5'' EL with, 4,7'' EG, (16,5 cm, with 12 cm girth), flaccid not bone pressed is 4'' by 4''. Well my reason for being here and wanting to do PE is general penis health, rock erection without doing kegal spasms to maintain it, girth and lenght. I downloaded "Matters of Size", been doing Phase I, for couple of days and it was good, then i read here by someone that "phase I" is too advanced for begginer, so i read about JP's 90 day begginer routine and have couple of questions about it. First of all V-Jelqs are very hard to do for 3-5 sec when your are not supposed to squaze the life of your penis and its already lubricated. Kegels, what kind to do? Reverse ones because of my inv.kegels spasms during masturbation of penis gland and when having sex, i read about it here and probably have that problem. So when it says 25 quick kegels with stretch should i do 12 normal (urinating start-stop) or reverse (shitting, farting motions but without actually shitting, farting, pissing and btw my lower abs contract when i do that so i dont know how to really isolate pissing and farting motion but i am really good at stopping the pissing motion or "normal kegels"), when it says big circle to the LEFT or RIGHT what does that mean.
Thank you in advance.

Sorry for my english. I have a feeling that Phase I of "MOS" DVD works better for me but i dont know, lots of kegels there, normal ones, will i become too much unbalanced. and i want girth really bad, and not to be fucking grower anymore! Peace out!

[burtybasset Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close burtybasset]

Welcome to the gym PE Believer!

Have a read through this if you click on the links it should answer all your questions \/

START HERE!

As for the rotation stretch there are video demonstrating these you can find also by clicking the start here /\ , but basically what this means is rotating the glans around the base like the hands of a clock.

The kegels are the quick kind during stretches in JP90 I believe, you might see your penis move when you do the forward kegel, I feel a contraction in the perineum when I do them.The reverse kegels I don't do during JP90 workout I do them later on, use your breathing to aid you as these are a stretch, not a contraction.

Also remember to warm up/down, take rest days to heal/grow and pay attention to what your body is telling you (PI's your key to gains).

I hope this helps, good luck with your routine and stay positive!

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

Welcome to the Gym!

In case you haven't already done so, please READ the link burtybasset provided above as well as the articles in the topmost blue navigation bar, and pay attention to safety instructions.

Most members here start with JP90, and gain fine from it, being an intense beginner's routine, you may want to consider starting slow and gradually increase workload, as you need to condition your penis first!


Helpful jelqing Information (updated)

Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to Help Penis Growth!


When done correctly, PE will greatly improve your penile health and increase your EQ, in addition to size gains, but you need to be consistent, patient and persistent, please do as much research as you can, ask questions, follow safety and exercise instructions carefully and remember that PE is a long term process, don't rush it up.


Stamina exercises, may contribute to gains and penile health, I suggest you read the links below and follow a balanced regular and reverse kegels routine for optimum pelvic floor health and conditioning, and practice edging for more stamina and control.

Kegels: Only One Piece of the Equation to Strengthen the Pelvic Floor

Yoga Poses for Pelvic Floor Stretching - relax your muscles

Confusion with Reverse Kegels

Pelvic Floor Balance


Minuteman's PremE FAQ

Arousal Techniques

ByggD's Guide to Controlling Your Ejaculation Response

What we know so far about PE, its causes and its treatment


Edging 101

Edging For Premature Ejaculation

Edging - penis exercise For Size and Hardness

Edging Toward MMO



For invaluable tips, information and advice, I highly recommend you to visit
http://www.thepassionatewife.com

And read through the following sub-forums as well, especially the stickies.

Relationship Forum

A Woman's Perspective

Premature Ejaculation Forum


Please keep in mind that sex is not a performance, but a mutually pleasurable experience between two partners, don't focus much on mechanics or this and that, just be in the moment, and focus on your and your partners pleasure, responses, and your technique, below, you will find information on how to become a better lover.


The Perils of Goal-Oriented Sex

Debunking A Popular Myth About the Female Orgasm





Bad masturbation habits and porn lead to premature ejaculation and performance anxiety among other side effects, please read the following threads for more information.

Adolescent Brain Meets Highspeed Internet Porn

Don't RELY on porn for an erection!

Greetings from the Fairy Pornmother

Therapeutic Help For Porn Addiction

The Detraining Effect: Understanding and Reversing Negative Habits To Improve Erection Quality and Sexual Confidence: Part 1


The great porn experiment! - Porn leads to ED.

Porn Detox - Join In

Porn causing my Premature Ejaculation?

The Porn Myth

Advantages of quitting porn

The AP90 (Anti-Porn)




Good Luck!

[PE_Beliver Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Beliver]

Thanks to both of you. I have read dozens articles but i guess more is required. I have read somewhere that edging is not so good because it raises dopamine to the roof and it leads to other complications... and that normal kegels can lead to Premature ejaculation and etc. I will read this all, and ask my questions if i dont understand something. Cheers!
P.S.
1. question, when i fuck i want to fuck all night long but after i cum i feel like shit, just want to sleep or watch tv... how can i increase my fucking libido after first intercourse.
2. what do u think about cock rigs and side effect on PE if it has any.
3. L-arginine and citruline, effects after couple of days or when i drink it.

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

Thanks to both of you. I have read dozens articles but i guess more is required. I have read somewhere that edging is not so good because it raises dopamine to the roof and it leads to other complications... and that normal kegels can lead to Premature ejaculation and etc. I will read this all, and ask my questions if i dont understand something. Cheers!
P.S.
1. question, when i fuck i want to fuck all night long but after i cum i feel like shit, just want to sleep or watch tv... how can i increase my fucking libido after first intercourse.
2. what do u think about cock rigs and side effect on PE if it has any.
3. L-arginine and citruline, effects after couple of days or when i drink it.

You must be referring to the article discussed in the following thread.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...lsory-e-d.html

As suggested above, you need to balance your pelvic floor by following a regular and reverse kegels routine, as well as learn to control your arousal and responses.

1. Read the post number 3.
2. Not needed.
3. https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...enol-work.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...itrulline.html

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[PE_Beliver Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Beliver]

Thank you very much mister! Lots of reading to do now

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

Thank you very much mister! Lots of reading to do now

You are welcome.

So Much Stuff To Read & Procrastination is a B**ch

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

....
1. Read the post number 3.
....

The reason I pointed you to the long list of links, is that it cannot be answered in one post, it a big topic with multiple sides.

First of all, you need to condition your pelvic floor, then practice edging, maybe later on practice MMO/DO, you also need to learn how to control your responses to stimulation and your arousal, but above all, you need to know that there is a lot more to it than penetrative intercourse, you don't "make" your partner orgasm, you make it easy for them, set the mood, help if you may, but they have a role, the bigger role.

Ego won't help, if your ego tells you that you must last all night long, then you will be anxious and get Pre-E or mental ED, even worse, you will miss out on so much pleasure of an intimate encounter with your partner.

By reading those links, and I know it will take time, but it IS worth it, and you will get a new, different and healthier perspective.

There is no magic pill/post/thread that can do all of it, and you need to be willing to read and digest the information provided, you need to be ready for a wider mindset, one that will allow you to become a good lover, well, and last as long as you want.

[PE_Beliver Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Beliver]

Can i change V-jelq with regular with JP90day routine, so then i will do them 300 (600 with both hands), maybe jelgs with stretch... v-jelqs is strange, and i cant do them for 3 second, with regular it is easy to hold them even 10 seconds... can i include some Uli's after jelqing?
In Matters of Size they do 600 fast jelqs in Phase I...? Should i just endure routine and bitch later

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

If you haven't read up on conditioning, and injuries, yet, I'd suggest you do so!

[PE_Beliver Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Beliver]

Man i am just too eager to gain , how much time is need for conditioning, can i include something or just stick with the routine? Sorry for being inpatient bastard

[Pucko Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pucko]

Out of curiosity, is that EL at 16.5cm bonepressed or not?

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Hey you can choose to be as impatient as you want, just don't cry if/when you injure your peen because you're too eager to gain.

90 days. Stick with JP90. If you don't like V Jelqs, don't do them. Less is more.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Have a look at my alternative-v-jelq, it feels way better. https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...ve-v-jelq.html

Can i change V-jelq with regular with JP90day routine, so then i will do them 300 (600 with both hands), maybe jelgs with stretch... v-jelqs is strange, and i cant do them for 3 second, with regular it is easy to hold them even 10 seconds... can i include some Uli's after jelqing?
In Matters of Size they do 600 fast jelqs in Phase I...? Should i just endure routine and bitch later

[AlpineNewt Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close AlpineNewt]

I find kickinthemebs alternative v-jelqs a lot easier to perform, the regular way is too awkward for me.
If you find all the jelqing too much you can also build up to the full JP90 over several weeks, add 50 per week for example.