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[narcissism Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close narcissism]

Hi all, only been doing this the last 4 weeks something. I knew there was guys that are insecure about there dicks,
didn't know there is a online place for PE obsession.
I am using a traction device at the moment, going to jelq. I'm at 6" x 4.5", when I make it long enough I will have
surgery to increase length and dermal fat graphs for girth, to reach my aim of 8" x 5.5".

If anyone wants to know the average gains in surgery are:
Flaccid Length: 1.2" Girth: 1.0"
Erect Length: 0.3" Girth: 0.8"

So I need to extend my dick by 1.7" before surgery to reach my goal, wish me luck.

[JonPop Retired Sr. Administrator PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close JonPop]

No, No, No. Don't even consider surgery. Give manual penis enlargement a try first. (jP

[narcissism Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close narcissism]

You can permanently increase the length using a traction device, but nothing will permanently increase girth the most important thing.
Jelqing gains aren't permanent and is risky for what temp gains, surgery is.
I could be happy now at 6" if my girth was 5.5", would even try to fuck a chick.

[Dante311 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dante311]

You can permanently increase the length using a traction device, but nothing will permanently increase girth the most important thing.
Jelqing gains aren't permanent and is risky for what temp gains, surgery is.
I could be happy now at 6" if my girth was 5.5", would even try to fuck a chick.

How old are you?

PEing gains from Girth & Jelqing are semi-permanent. With loss of use of any anatomical portion of your body there will always be a degree of atrophy and/or degradation...

but consider using natural means to increase size... you're elongating the corpus cavernosa & corpus spongiosum... they aren't just going to atrophy to original sizes immediately. Think of muscular hypertrophy... (I know... different tissues... but go along on this with me). You increase the thickness of a muscle fiber... regardless of bodyfat%... think of how long of disuse of that particular muscle fiber it'll take muscular atrophy to occur for the fiber to degrade during a catabolic state.

It takes a lot of energy to further degrade ligaments, tendons, and muscle... glucocorticoid & mineralcorticoid secretion doesn't onset until HIGHER levels of stress via SNS stimulation... and even at that, it takes elevated levels + prolonged exposure to seriously see any significant losses in size.

That's my theory anyways.

With surgery, there is always risk. Risk of further injury and the risk of Erectile Dysfunction is greater with penile enlargement surgery + the risk of breaking your wallet :P

Many surgeons won't even consider doing this surgery b/c of the penile sensitivity... you sign off on a plethora of things that can wrong and the accountability of your surgeon is none.

[narcissism Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close narcissism]

I'm 21, I gonna try jelqing and see for myself but in a year or two years I'm having surgery no matter what.
Honestly I don't really care if I can't get hard after, having sex or any sexual pleasure means nothing to me now,
all I want is a normal sized dick.

[Dante311 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dante311]

I'm 21, I gonna try jelqing and see for myself but in a year or two years I'm having surgery no matter what.
Honestly I don't really care if I can't get hard after, having sex or any sexual pleasure means nothing to me now,
all I want is a normal sized dick.

First of all, oh educated consumer, you are 'normal size' at present time. Your length is sufficiently adequate. Girth is about average.

Second, what's the use of a normal sized penis if you can't use it? O.o

[narcissism Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close narcissism]

My doctor said the same thing "its normal" but I'm way below size in girth, you could have a 5" long penis and still be "medically correct"
according to your doctor. I remember when I tried to have sex with this girl and she laughed at the size,
when ever I see anyone Else's my brothers, anyone, there way bigger than me.
It just isn't big enough. The use of it being normal size and not working would be that I could wake up in the morning and not feel like
killing myself, it would not work but it would be normal and I would be whole.

[Dante311 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dante311]

My doctor said the same thing "its normal" but I'm way below size in girth, you could have a 5" long penis and still be "medically correct"
according to your doctor. I remember when I tried to have sex with this girl and she laughed at the size,
when ever I see anyone Else's my brothers, anyone, there way bigger than me.
It just isn't big enough. The use of it being normal size and not working would be that I could wake up in the morning and not feel like
killing myself, it would not work but it would be normal and I would be whole.

If this is truly what's bothering you, without being disrespectful... you have other pressing issues that need to be addressed first. I do not feel you are in the mindset to continue forth with PEing and/or surgery just yet.

Please, from the bottom of my heart to yours... please seek out a counselor to speak with first. You shouldn't care if one girl laughed. I was in a relationship for 5 months with the most shallow, most insecure, most emotionally unstable girl ever.. but you know what.. she was hot as fuck... a 9.5. Really. She was also a spoiled brat. My penis was only ~ 5.6" w/ a 4.75 girth... and you know what, she let me know I was the BEST sex she's ever gotten. Why? because I'm good @ the motion of the ocean, controlling my ejaculations and I know how to make her feel good that she came every time we fooled around... and we fooled around 2, 3, 4, 5... even 6 times a night... and at least 1-2 times per day.

Pretty much every day, too. hmm

Good luck as the final decision you make is yours and yours alone. We here can and only want to help... I only want to help. That's why I take time out of my day to post here. I'm not here to dissuade you, but like making any improvement... it needs to be made with the healthiest of intentions. You cannot change for anyone... and no woman and/or man can and should be able to change you. You need to change for your own empowerment.. to better yourself in whatever realm of differentiation possible to improve your quality of life. Increasing your penis size for a negative reinforcement, in my mind, does not qualify valid grounds... rather do it for health of mind, body, heart, and soul... not because some shallow bitch laughed at you. Fuck her.. she'll never be happy. I'm fairly confident she'll never be satisfied with life... her own or another's...

You still have full potential!

[JonPop Retired Sr. Administrator PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close JonPop]

Narcissism, you might want to read this. Also watch the video. (jP

here

[narcissism Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close narcissism]

Thanks for your kind words and jp thanks for the link I am gonna look at it now.
I'm in therapy but I can't bring myself to say to my psychologist "hey you know what else is really depressing me I think my penis is inadequate".
The main problem I'm in therapy for is BDD, now I know what your gonna say but I have felt this way before developing BDD, like when I was 12.

[hhorner50 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hhorner50]

I started PE close to you with 6.25" BPEL and 4.5" girth. I already have significant improvements in about 1.5 months.

Try not to get depressed about some girl. My first girlfriend said I was small, so I know how this is a big hit to the ego. I later found out that my length was above average and my girth was average. With my new girlfriend I know now that the ex had a HUGE vagina. There are plenty of women out there that will be happy with your penis.

I suppose some girls need huge dicks just like some men need huge boobs. Those really aren't qualities you want in a mate to think they would be so insensitive to laugh at you about your body. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean we shouldn't improve ourselves in any way we can.

Therapy can be good, and hopefully talking about your insecurities here can help as well. PE can be great because it puts you on a routine you have to be dedicated to. If your dick is anything like mine, hopefully you will see some improvement in 1-2 months, or at least some good signs. I DO NOT recommend surgery (and I didn't even see that info that JP posted until just now). It is way too expensive, the risks are too high, and your penis is really not small.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Take heart in that your complaint is a very commong one- men of average (or even above average) size being taunted about their size can be a devastating experience. Some people enjoy seeing the damage they can do to others' psyches. The best thing you can do is to improve your confidence. PE may help, but it sounds to me as if you have to resolve some deeper issues, as even obtaining the penis of your dreams your psychological problems will likely manifest themselves in another form.

Start with a promise to yourself to not allow anyone to have the kind of power over you that this woman had from uttering a few comments. Anyone that would do that is doing so out of malice. If you can accomplish that, you'll be on the road to better emotional health.

[Gryphon Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gryphon]

Be careful with what you wish for bro, I don’t think you would think the same if one day you woke up with a useless dick. I mean who gives a fuck if it is 10 inches if you can’t use it? What good will that "normal” size do to you?

Now I understand how you feel believe. I started out much smaller than you and I felt like shit. Now I am slightly bigger but I still have a huge issue with my size, I still see it as miniscule.

To make matters worse my first girlfriend who also happened to be the first one I have sex with on a regular bases kind of made some remarks implying my dick was small, she never really said it but there were some thing that made me think she believed it.

Anyways I finished with her and yet she still looks for me to have sex with and when we were together I swear to you she would literally be mad if I didn’t have sex with her and she moaned and screamed like there was no tomorrow. Guess it is not that small is it...

Now I will pursue my PE till I feel happy about my size. Why the hell would you risk to surgery when by manual PE you can have such amazing gains? Does it really bother you that much if you have to do some sort of maintenance routine once in a while to keep your gains or would you rather keep feeling sorry about yourself?

Really I have been here for a couple of days and there are countless examples of men that have the gains you are after and more , so go ahead and give PE a try.

[McDog Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close McDog]

I agree with everyone else's response...

N,

You've got to be honest with yourself and understand that your "short comings" aren't short comings at all. Most women aren't looking for that gigantic eggplant of a cock to rip them in two, and one or two stupid chicks that have made a comment about your size shouldn't bother you (I know, easier said than done). Besides, some women get off on making men feel like shit. As one poster mentioned, it's all about how you work what you've got. You would be an absolute stud in bed with exactly what you've got if you had some decent stamina and knowledge of how to make a woman physically feel good. Put it this way, I've even been told that I was too small and I'm 7 nbpl x 7.5 girth! I've also been told that I'm way too big...so go figure. Stick with the PE excercises; they're healthier and much safer. Not to mention, they are more fun. I also think they will make you feel better about yourself in no time.

I'd rather have a 5" rock hard pecker than a 10" soft one.