grower vs shower related to speed of gains

[dogami Member Find all posts View Profile Close dogami]

Anyone have any opinions on this. Or experience just wondering if being a shower may make gains easyer or being a grower would be better. Or if u think it dosnt matter like to hear ur input.

[aidan784 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close aidan784]

Wadzilla of Thunder's, put together a theory about gains, called the EtP theory, or Elasticity to Plasticity.

Part of it theorizes that growers have more elasticity and therefore better potential for gains, but also that show'ers are more likely to get quicker initial gains.

Like I said it's just a theory. It's summarised in a well written PDF actually, good read.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

I'm defintely more of a shower since starting a committed PE routine. According to the flaccid length poll I was a shower with a skinny 4" already before starting, but I don't agree. Either way it's bigger flaccid now, and I've gained about quarter of an inch in the last couple of weeks. Make of that what you will.

I suspect people are just as different wrt gain potential as they are in starting size, and no amount of checking people's shoe size or favourite colour will deduce that. Just gotta try it and see, huh

[first Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close first]

Wadzilla of Thunder's, put together a theory about gains, called the EtP theory, or Elasticity to Plasticity.

Part of it theorizes that growers have more elasticity and therefore better potential for gains, but also that show'ers are more likely to get quicker initial gains.

Ehm, for gains you want as poor elasticity as possible, not the other way around. Elasticity is how well the body is able to revert back deformation while with PE you want the opposite, being able to permanently deform the body.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

I'm not sure being a shower means your John Thomas is less elastic, it just means it doesn't shrink as much. Maybe it's all related, but I don't know that I buy that it's that predictable.

[dmcollin Member Find all posts View Profile Close dmcollin]

A good example is a rubber band. Have you ever noticed that the thins small rubber bands stretch out ridiculously proportionate to their size. While thick fat rubber bands dont stretch as much. Its elasticity. just a first impression for me, no expert.

[TurtleProblems Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TurtleProblems]

I am strongly of the opinion that Showers= better flaccid gains. Growers= better erect gains. I base this on the fact that as time goes on and when people transform from grower to shower, their flaccid gains seem to speed up even more. It holds true for me. When I first began PE I started as a grower, I did have flaccid gains but they were't noticeable yet the erect gains were. As I've become more a shower, most of the gains now go towards flaccid first, and less towards erect.

[angus Banned Find all posts View Profile Close angus]

My flaccid length is the most significant gain since PE. It went from 2 inches to 6 inches in 2 years. My erect length has been much slower, only about 1.25 gain. Can't explain why but that's what happened.

[Toadstool Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toadstool]

A lot of guys have gone from growers to showers. Does that mean their rate of gains have changed?

There are exercises that help stretch out the flaccid penis so that you can show more. Does that alter how much you'll gain?

I don't know

[Appleman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Appleman]

My flaccid length is the most significant gain since PE. It went from 2 inches to 6 inches in 2 years. My erect length has been much slower, only about 1.25 gain. Can't explain why but that's what happened.

Wow!! 6 inches flaccid? you got yourself into becoming a total shower lol

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

It has nothing to do with shower or grower for gains at all. Most showers usually have to do with genes based on climate which makes perfect sense. My flaccid length parallel measured before PE was 4.25 and about 5 hanging but that don't mean anything for my gains in PE because I didn't really struggle with gaining the length but do with gaining girth more so the upper region. So even where you gains varies.

[rbi99 Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close rbi99]

What all of this comes down to is how dedicated are you to PE. I don't just mean doing exercises so many days a week, but really studying your unit and how it responds to different exercises, different intensities, and the frequency of exercise. Just following a scripted routine will probably get you some gains, but a scripted routine might not be anything near what is best for you. Some of us simply aren't going to gain much length, others girth, some both. Then at the other end of the spectrum some are going to gain like crazy. Just like there are gifted athletes that just naturally "get it", most have to bust their ass to be any good, and often even that isn't enough. So forget who can gain and worry about numero uno. Study, ask questions, experiment (I have come up with variations of several exercises because the standard versions just weren't cutting it for me), practice, and perhaps most importantly, listen to what your unit is trying to tell you.

[eow. Member of the Month April 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close eow.]

I think the logic is kind of flawed for that theory. Just because you are a shower doesn't mean you are more elastic. If anything, being a grower means you are more elastic, lol.

[Jm123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jm123]

The thing that I have noticed on the shower vs. grower issue is that the ligs play a monster part. I have been taking it easy on PE for awhile, but I still have kept up on flaccid stretching, and lig pops* (probably 30min-2hrs per day). I have noticed a huge difference in flaccid length because of this. I use to be around 3" flaccid and would shrink to 2" or maybe be lucky to get to four inches. Now, I am hanging around 5-6" most of the time, and shrink to 4 at the absolute worst cases. I am talking about after exercise or being outside during the cold and my sack completely shrinks up, and my penis shrinks up.

*lig pops are a gray area in PE, and I have been experimenting with them on and off since 2003. I understand the safe methods in producing them and would generally classify them into two categories. The first is pelvic bone cracking, which is safe albeit it can be loud, unsettling, and/or painful. The second is the actual lig poping. This is the area I understand quite well. I pop my ligs as much as possible which is usually 5-10 times per day. I believe the pops are the results of the ligs repositioning and retracting from an extended state. I am planning on making a post on several of my PE observations in the next month after I get through some very important life commitments.