Priapism and the expansive properties of the penis

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Priapism is a condition in which an erection doesn't subside. Left untreated, it can cause some serious problems with some interesting side effects.
While priapism isn't something that you should pursue, it is a fascinating subject in that shows the expansive capabilities of the penis. Here are some links to medical websites with information on priapism:

http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php...2/priapism.xml (graphic)

Megalophallus as a sequela of priapism in sickle c...[Urology. 2000] - PubMed Result

[scientificapproach Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close scientificapproach]

Great post Big Al! I have been trying to research this condition for a while now! Interesting indeed! Some serious gains seem to occur in some cases.

Lets look at this logically! So the penis is constantly erect in this condition, and this seems to result in a permanent loss of elasticity of the TA (according to the second link).

If the erection which is sustained begins within normal pressure ranges within the penis, we can assume that this loss of elasticity is caused simply by being within the normal range for a long period of time. The stress isn't an extreme one for a short duration. Also mitosis is unlikely to be the mechanism as I think Most cases of Priapism do not last in the region of weeks months and years, rather several day?!

I wonder if a priaismed penis would turtle down alot after erections (if full health were to be assumed)? It seems that rest days are not really an issue, making the growth theory look less likely to be the culprite for enlargement...just constant un relenting (but not extreme) stress to the TA!

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Thanks

Priapism can last for several hours into several days. There can be some irreparable damage as ischemia occurs after several hours.

I don't think you can attribute any of that growth to division since it occured so quickly. There's likely some sort of fascial unraveling as well as microtearing.

The fact that priapism in the case of the subject in link #2 resulted in permanent size gains may be good news for clinical evidence of "permanent gains" from PE. On that note, the fascia of a post-priapism gainer is probably going to be different from that of someone doing PE, and there's bound to be structural weaknesses in the case of the former.

[Iguana Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Iguana]

It seems that that the above Megalophallus case was possibly an isolated case. The article mentions other cases of Megalophallus (not from priapism) but fails to list the causes.

Megalophallus has been previously reported,[2] but it is not generally recognized as a sequela of priapism.

This case also seems to be unique in that the patient retained erectile function. It seems that extreme cases of priapism often result in fibrosis and loss of erectile function, due to tissue necrosis from lack of oxygen.

This is the basic premise of my chemical PE routine; controlled extended erections (bordering on priapisms) several times a week. As scientificapproach speculates, this should eventually weaken the tunica. Needless to say this is very dangerous and not to
be attempted without strict guidelines.

[Keido Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Keido]

Is this the principle behind ballooning gains? Does this give any merit to low intensity, high volume PE routines?

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Some other causes of megalophallus are use of AAS in adolescence and other forms of blood disorders (dyscrasias). Priapism can be caused by any number of tings, including injuries to the pelvis, ED drugs, and neurological conditions. It's important to note that most cases of ischemic priapism do not result in megalophallus.

If you're interested, here's an internal link with a video on megalophallus.

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Is this the principle behind ballooning gains? Does this give any merit to low intensity, high volume PE routines?

Considering the terrific internal pressure needed to deform the tunica, it would compare to doing a high volume high intensity routine. Again, this post is for informational purposes, and you shouldn't seek to try to mimic the conditions needed to cause megalophallus.

[Hairtrigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hairtrigger]

Seems like any enlargment by Priapism would be caused by the destruction and weakening of tissues which would be the opposite of what PE normally brings about. Ballooning and Edging on the other hand applies much lower levels of pressures and would not destroy but stretch and reform the CC's and TA after a good routine. Those exercises on their own wouldn't produce quality gains though, looks like you would need a good balance of stretching, Jelqs and Kegels to maintain EQ and your units overall health.

If Ballooning and Edging type exercises can produce a Priapism environment but at a controlled rate then what time limit should be set to produce results?
Could one see the same amount or type of gains through clamping?

This still could raise questions about the condition of the TA before Priapism.
Do men that are Priapism prone already have weak TA's?

Just thinking out loud is all.

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Seems like any enlargment by Priapism would be caused by the destruction and weakening of tissues which would be the opposite of what PE normally brings about. Ballooning and Edging on the other hand applies much lower levels of pressures and would not destroy but stretch and reform the CC's and TA after a good routine. Those exercises on their own wouldn't produce quality gains though, looks like you would need a good balance of stretching, Jelqs and Kegels to maintain EQ and your units overall health.

If Ballooning and Edging type exercises can produce a Priapism environment but at a controlled rate then what time limit should be set to produce results?
Could one see the same amount or type of gains through clamping?

This still could raise questions about the condition of the TA before Priapism.
Do men that are Priapism prone already have weak TA's?

Just thinking out loud is all.

There's a similar thread going on over at BetterMan .

I agree- achieving a balance is very important to successful PE, and trainers need to realize that stamina work is the most important thing that can be done for the penis. Having a large penis isn't any good if it can't get rock-hard.

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It seems that in the case of Megalophallus it only affects girth, not length. At least there is no mention of length increase.
This guy must have been well endowed to begin with. Also, because the corpus cavernosa is the problamatic area, there is no enlargement of the glans.

We propose an alternative mechanism for this sequela. The increase in penile circumference follows a sudden and permanent loss of elasticity of the tunica albuginea, brought about by a particularly intense priapism and a very engorged organ. The loss of elasticity of the tunica albuginea releases constraints on the corpora cavernosa, which then expand like a sponge. This expansion, helped by some subtunical venous impairment that is secondary to the remaining elasticity of the stretched tunica, results in pooled, deoxygenated blood in the corpora cavernosa consistent with our BOLD-MRI findings. BOLD-MRI defines the presence of deoxygenated blood, eliminating the need for an invasive procedure.

The plausibility of this mechanism for megalophallus is supported by the lack of increase in the circumference of the glans in our patient and the one previously described. The glans penis sinusoids are larger and the tunica albuginea is absent, and thus do not provide the bases for the pathologic features observed. The decreased elastic compression of the tunica explains the lack of pain despite the enlargement of the penis. The residual elastic restraint to expansion produces moderate blood stasis, explaining our BOLD-MRI findings. Finally, conservation of the capacity for full erection is due to the intactness of the corpora cavernosa and the infratunica venule system.

Megalophallus as a sequela of priapism in sickle c...[Urology. 2000] - PubMed Result

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It seems that in the case of Megalophallus it only affects girth, not length. At least there is no mention of length increase.
This guy must have been well endowed to begin with. Also, because the corpus cavernosa is the problamatic area, there is no enlargement of the glans.



Megalophallus as a sequela of priapism in sickle c...[Urology. 2000] - PubMed Result

The corpora expand longitudinally as well as laterally. His case of megallophalus appears to be pretty symmetrical too.

[Hairtrigger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hairtrigger]

It could get sad very quickly if there was a weak area in the Tunica. In these severe cases what seems to receive the most damage, the Tunica or the CC's? I'm just full of questions lately huh......

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The corpora expand longitudinally as well as laterally. His case of megallophalus appears to be pretty symmetrical too.

Where did you see the part about longitudinal expansion?

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Where did you see the part about longitudinal expansion?

The tunicae contains a longitudinal layer. This allows it to expand lengthwise as well as radially. If the corpora expanded only radially, penile flaccid length would be almost as long as erect length.

A more flexible or weaker longitudinal tunica is probably the case with "showers" that have large flaccid measurements.

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It could get sad very quickly if there was a weak area in the Tunica. In these severe cases what seems to receive the most damage, the Tunica or the CC's? I'm just full of questions lately huh......

The tunica encases the spongy middle (corpora), and it (and the ligs) limits erection size. If there's a weakness it could provoke a fracture. In cases of penile fractures it's the tunica that ruptures, and this can damage the corpora and urethra.