Ok so penis enlargement is...

[James8X6 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close James8X6]

Is the basis behind PE plastically deforming it, or causing tears, which then heal back bigger/stronger. If the former is the case, then sessions need to be medium/long, and use a medium force, right? If the latter is the case, then routines need to be short, sharp and intense, like skeletal muscle training. This is generally not the case however, as high intensity pretty much always leads to injury.

I generally think of it as plastic deformation, as the penis does not have much skeletal muscle in it, and since routines generally aren't 25 minutes at high intensity. Also since skeletal muscle will disappear if not used, whereas PE gains tend to be permanent.

An y thoughts/opinions/correcting anything that i have said would be greatly appreciated.

[growinglad Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close growinglad]

I was actually having similar thoughts recently. I change my routine way too often now a days but I should just stuck with what works! Therefore I recently went back to my extending roots (medium intensity, long sessions).

My best results have come from extenders and not from manual exercises. But other people get great results from manual, so it's hard to say.

Perhaps both types of exercise work but in different ways. Extender companies claim the constant force creates cellular division, but you need long regular sessions. Whereas something like hanging only uses short sessions. But hangers often talk about pulling out the inner penis, which is totally different kind of "growth".

I'm more a believer of plastic deformation also due to the fact of reading about people losing results from jelqing and hanging. People often talk about needing a maintenance routine to keep gains. I don't remember any extender users needing a maintenance routine, but I could be wrong.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Okay so here's the truth; no one really knows. There are theories and as yet no widespread study has been done that I know of to prove anything. I just know it works somehow.

[growinglad Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close growinglad]

Yeah, that's a simpler way of putting it

[James8X6 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close James8X6]

mmmmm mysterious huh? Maybe one day we will find out for sure!

For the meantime though, as long as it works, people will still be doing it.

[dcreynolds Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dcreynolds]

I was actually having similar thoughts recently. I change my routine way too often now a days but I should just stuck with what works! Therefore I recently went back to my extending roots (medium intensity, long sessions).

My best results have come from extenders and not from manual exercises. But other people get great results from manual, so it's hard to say.

Perhaps both types of exercise work but in different ways. Extender companies claim the constant force creates cellular division, but you need long regular sessions. Whereas something like hanging only uses short sessions. But hangers often talk about pulling out the inner penis, which is totally different kind of "growth".

I'm more a believer of plastic deformation also due to the fact of reading about people losing results from jelqing and hanging. People often talk about needing a maintenance routine to keep gains. I don't remember any extender users needing a maintenance routine, but I could be wrong.

Correct! No maintenance routine is required for extender gains once the goal is reached.

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

The limiting factor for penile growth, is the tunica. Composed by elastin and collagen fibers, it is connective tissue. Just like tendons in the body. It needs constant tension or traction to improve elasticity.That might lead to new fibers, however that is theory. One thing is for sure, the body needs the right hormonal environment and chemicals in order to modify the genes and force cell replication. Gene transcription must be altered in order to produce real growth.

[James8X6 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close James8X6]

The limiting factor for penile growth, is the tunica. Composed by elastin and collagen fibers, it is connective tissue. Just like tendons in the body. It needs constant tension or traction to improve elasticity.That might lead to new fibers, however that is theory. One thing is for sure, the body needs the right hormonal environment and chemicals in order to modify the genes and force cell replication. Gene transcription must be altered in order to produce real growth.

Interesting point Jack. If what you say about new fibres is true, then that means that PE is like bodybuilding, in the sense that new fibres are formed in response to the stress you cause it when PE'ing?

I understand that the tunica is responsible for getting an erection, yes? Does it relax or contract to achieve this?

Correct! No maintenance routine is required for extender gains once the goal is reached.

Why is this? The extender is just like manual stretching for long periods of time right?? Surely you would lose some gains if you took a break...

[Jackxxx Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Jackxxx]

Interesting point Jack. If what you say about new fibres is true, then that means that PE is like bodybuilding, in the sense that new fibres are formed in response to the stress you cause it when PE'ing?

I understand that the tunica is responsible for getting an erection, yes? Does it relax or contract to achieve this?

Similar to bodybuilding, but now exactly. In the case of the tunica, the structure is similar to a mesh of fibers, or more like the threads in a bed sheet. But each of these threads has elasticity. The theory in this, is that the constant stretching and separation of the threads, leads to the growth of new fibers in between to fill up the gap. As opposed in bodybuilding, in order for skeletal muscle to grow, you need to break muscle fibers, and from the nutrients ingested, the body rebuilds the fiber bigger and stronger than before.

Yes the tunica is responsible for an erection. When the smooth muscle relaxes, it fills up with blood, stretching the tunica. Once the tunica reaches its maximum size, the veins in between the corpus cavernosum and the tunica get compressed, leaving the blood trapped inside and therefore maintaining an erection. That is why, if you can increase the stretched size of the tunica, you will have more room to increase smooth muscle cells and therefore the size of the phallus. Without tunica growth, there is no room for enlargement.