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If you read up on it, there are a number of scientific facts to back it up. But then again two disagreeing sides can use true facts to back an argument. In the end, it remains to be seen if it can withstand formal testing or studies. That's what ends up being done with subjective stuff like that. If you don't have the tools to test everything then you turn to double blind studies. Just look at athletic supplements beyond simple protein and creatine. There's so much out there left untested and unverified for effectiveness. And yeah, different people bodies respond differently to certain stimuli than others.
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I didn't see science backing non orgasm ,lot of gibberish and assertion, not science.
I mean lots of guys can watch porn in moderation with no ill effects.
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I agree that for some porn is an issue, but for many others it is not. Just like some can drink beer and others can not stop. I can watch porn with no issues at all, well except maybe getting a boner but I honestly don't whack off when I watch it. I don't even watch that much but it simply has never had any sort of adverse effect on me. To say it is poison is not correct, to say it is poison for you is correct.Originally posted by draggin View PostHmmmm, how would you define "poison"?
I would define poison something that kills you. So if porn was "relationship poison" than it would kill a relationship. I can tell you first hand that is exactly what it did to me and my relationship. For 10 years it poisoned my marriage. Near the end, my wife and I didn't even have sex anymore. One reason was because jerkin to porn made my dick so soft I couldn't even fuck my hot wife even if I wanted to. The only reason I'm not divorced is because my wife is ridiculously loyal and strong. Plus I quit porn cold turkey. My life without porn? Wonderful. My wife is happy. My dick works. Everything is better.
There you have it. Porn = Poison.Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before
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No ill effects, eh? What would happen to "lots of guys" if their wife walked in on them while they were jerkin to some sorry sick shit? Right?Originally posted by Pegasus View PostI mean lots of guys can watch porn in moderation with no ill effects.
It seems to me that your MMO lifestyle is clearly porn-based, so you convince yourself porn is "ok". That's human nature. I just hope your opinion doesn't influence too many of our other members. Frankly, I'm surprised an administrator and editor on a forum claiming to promote sexual health is openly condoning the use of porn."with great EQ, comes great responsibility"
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Oh, BigO, not you too? C'mon guys, where did your respect for women go. Shame on you. Y'all brains are poisoned. It is gross. It is creepy. And it does affect you, even if you think it doesn't.Originally posted by BigO View PostI agree that for some porn is an issue, but for many others it is not. Just like some can drink beer and others can not stop. I can watch porn with no issues at all, well except maybe getting a boner but I honestly don't whack off when I watch it. I don't even watch that much but it simply has never had any sort of adverse effect on me. To say it is poison is not correct, to say it is poison for you is correct.
I suppose you are going to tell me that smoking cigarettes is healthy because most guys don't get cancer.Last edited by draggin; 10-11-2013, 11:56 PM."with great EQ, comes great responsibility"
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OK, I have had a minute to think ...
What I'm trying to say is that y'all, like me, have probably been using porn for a long time. It's part of your routine. I get it. It probably even feels normal to you. And I know you think it has no effect on you, BUT I promise, if you quit porn your life will get better. Why not do a little experiment and quit porn for 6 months. And at the end of 6 months you will either prove me wrong OR have a better happier marriage and life. Either way you win!!"with great EQ, comes great responsibility"
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Don't even think about insinuating I lack respect for women because I said porn does not cause everyone problems.
I never said porn was good either. Don't be so narrow minded as to think anyone who does not agree with you is wrong.
I despise many things about porn but the addiction could be a week mind. Be strong enough to hit the O F F button.
Many of us did not waste years pulling Pud to porn. I spent my time working even though we had porn too.Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before
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You wasted that minute because you still have no clue what I do. You don't know what is normal too me. Watching porn or not watching would not change fuck all in my life.Originally posted by draggin View PostOK, I have had a minute to think ...
What I'm trying to say is that y'all, like me, have probably been using porn for a long time. It's part of your routine. I get it. It probably even feels normal to you. And I know you think it has no effect on you, BUT I promise, if you quit porn your life will get better. Why not do a little experiment and quit porn for 6 months. And at the end of 6 months you will either prove me wrong OR have a better happier marriage and life. Either way you win!!
I work, raise kids(5), go to the gym and somehow keep my wife in a state of BigO and then spend my free time here.
Wish I Knew what time to watch porn was like.Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before
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I firmly believe that staying away from porn is a great idea. I quit and noticed good results after going through the "reboot" thing. I had trouble getting it up without porn after going a few weeks without it. I think you can get off without a problem of relapsing although the whole community is weird as can be when it comes to labeling the whole thing. They say PMO (porn, masturbation, orgasm) is the enemy. Even when I watched porn I didn't always watch porn to masturbate. So that would be more like MO. Then sometimes I wouldn't ejaculate so it was just M, but they only say PMO is an issue, really it is unclear seemingly. I am certain it is porn. It does release dopamine. Masturbation does as well, but it also has the coolidge effect, and my experience says porn is an issue not masturbation.
I'm assuming you mean that addiction to porn is the result of a "weak" mind? I do not comprehend what you are saying so I'll interpret it be that it is the case that it is caused from a weak mind.I despise many things about porn but the addiction could be a week mind.
Nearly all drugs of abuse increase dopamine neurotransmission. | National Institute on Drug Abuse
I think you don't know what an addiction is like or what it does to your brain BigO. Your brain actually adapts to it, and neural connections change.
How addiction changes your brain - YouTube
Here this example is with drugs. They have a nice brain scan at about 1:40 in the video. It highlights the areas of brain that are active in making you feeling good. It is insinuated that the more that is highlighted in the scan the more well off you feel. You can obviously tell that the brain of an addict has substantially less highlighted areas showing they have less pleasure in their life. Because of this the drug or thing that gives you the dopamine will be craved to get you to a more centered state until you need more. I really hate when people think that addiction is not physical, but rather just a mental thing that you could simply just will away. And this is for anybody else if they wanted a small explanation not from yourbrainonporn.com + my experiences.
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Actually I am not that into porn . The ex used to put on a dvd between sessions, but in recent years ,certainly months could go by where I am just not interested.Originally posted by draggin View PostNo ill effects, eh? What would happen to "lots of guys" if their wife walked in on them while they were jerkin to some sorry sick shit? Right?
It seems to me that your MMO lifestyle is clearly porn-based, so you convince yourself porn is "ok". That's human nature. I just hope your opinion doesn't influence too many of our other members. Frankly, I'm surprised an administrator and editor on a forum claiming to promote sexual health is openly condoning the use of porn.
Now if I was not carefull I could have a problem with wine, but my brother isn't interested in it. So I moderate my intake of wine, some shouldn't drink at all . Some should avoid porn, some should moderate use and for some it is not an issue.
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IMO...porn is like gambling or something.Some are degenerate gamblers, others never, others till they have had enough.
Porn itself is not a problem...your response to it is.Cause I'm TNT, I'm Dynamite :boxing::aikido:
Got nine lives...used six already!! :angel:
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Thanks Pegasus and BigO. First, I'm thrilled to hear porn is an insignificant aspect of your life. Second, my comments made personal assumptions about both of you that were wrong. Sorry for that. My bad.
Please give your comment "porn doesn't affect some men" reconsideration. You guys are role models. Just because I was/am a fuck-up, doesn't change the fact that porn, at some level, does always affect sexual health, penis function, brain perception, and relationships in a negative way. Even if the negative change is not perceivable. C'mon, you know what I'm saying isn't just my opinion speaking. There are dozens of resources that can be accessed to back my comment. But guess what? I still like you guys. Especially you Pegasus - you can take a sucker punch and be man enough not to swing back. And BigO, you have done so much good on this forum, you are just such a witty and likable guy - who could ever resist you? In turn, I promise to be more respectful and promise to try harder to make my point without getting personal. Fair enough?"with great EQ, comes great responsibility"
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Been trying to find something worthwhile to say about this, but not sure I'm succeeding. The "x itself is not a problem" can be said about a lot of things, but for a lot of these things at least you will find a warning in society. For an imperfect example, I'm sure heroin can be used responsibly, but nobody deciding to try can say they weren't warned about the possible ill effects.Originally posted by camaro View PostPorn itself is not a problem...your response to it is.
For porn, you don't really hear a lot of warnings. Unlike heroin, it's considered to be perfectly normal for a person to indulge in porn, and using porn is often encouraged as a safe and sound way of exploring sexuality. Given the nature of today's porn and the ready availability of it, I don't think such unreserved endorsement is a fantastic idea.
The way I see it, ybop is placing that missing warning sticker on porn, and that should be more important than whether or not they're 100% scientifically correct on all counts.-- If it ain't rock hard, then it ain't worth doing
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Bipaw - YOU ROCK!!Originally posted by bipaw View PostI firmly believe that staying away from porn is a great idea. I quit and noticed good results after going through the "reboot" thing. I had trouble getting it up without porn after going a few weeks without it. I think you can get off without a problem of relapsing although the whole community is weird as can be when it comes to labeling the whole thing. They say PMO (porn, masturbation, orgasm) is the enemy. Even when I watched porn I didn't always watch porn to masturbate. So that would be more like MO. Then sometimes I wouldn't ejaculate so it was just M, but they only say PMO is an issue, really it is unclear seemingly. I am certain it is porn. It does release dopamine. Masturbation does as well, but it also has the coolidge effect, and my experience says porn is an issue not masturbation.
I'm assuming you mean that addiction to porn is the result of a "weak" mind? I do not comprehend what you are saying so I'll interpret it be that it is the case that it is caused from a weak mind.
Nearly all drugs of abuse increase dopamine neurotransmission. | National Institute on Drug Abuse
I think you don't know what an addiction is like or what it does to your brain BigO. Your brain actually adapts to it, and neural connections change.
How addiction changes your brain - YouTube
Here this example is with drugs. They have a nice brain scan at about 1:40 in the video. It highlights the areas of brain that are active in making you feeling good. It is insinuated that the more that is highlighted in the scan the more well off you feel. You can obviously tell that the brain of an addict has substantially less highlighted areas showing they have less pleasure in their life. Because of this the drug or thing that gives you the dopamine will be craved to get you to a more centered state until you need more. I really hate when people think that addiction is not physical, but rather just a mental thing that you could simply just will away. And this is for anybody else if they wanted a small explanation not from yourbrainonporn.com + my experiences."with great EQ, comes great responsibility"
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You can't control the high heroin gives you...can you?
I do not encourage porn.Perhaps older men are less affected by it as compared to young people who have not had sex?Cause I'm TNT, I'm Dynamite :boxing::aikido:
Got nine lives...used six already!! :angel:
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