Grand Unified Theory of PE and how I gained 2 inches over the last month

[C.Phantasy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close C.Phantasy]

I was watching a youtube with this contortionist doing crazy bends and movements, and it got me to thinking of how they prepare their body to stretch to such an extreme. This website gave me A LOT of insights in the philosophy of stretching: The Contortionist's handbook v.2.0

I usually start with a stretching routine(up,down,left,right,V-stretches), BUT I use contortion type stretches which are much more effective. Then I move to intense slow jelqing at near 100%. The idea is to start at the base and force the penis to expand beyond the 100% mark. I then clamp very lightly and make the penis go to it's safe max(you have to listen to the body), for 15-45 minutes. One key is that I don't use manual stimualtion at all to acheive the erections. Mental erections seems to produce far better results(I think it a biochemical issue), but are a bitch to achieve at max for a longtime.

Also remember that health plays a big role. Exercise, eating lean foods, taking quality herbs like grapeseed, all help too.

Please evaluate in more detail

To me it sounds like your doing DLDī Pulse stretching (Which have given good gains for many).

Regarding post stretching, try "Underwater Clamping" with a bucket of hot water. It has some really freaky potential with minimum risk of injury.

[Radiohead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Radiohead]

How do you perform the DLD pulse stretcher?

I like the idea of clamping in hot water. Sounds sexay!

[C.Phantasy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close C.Phantasy]

How do you perform the DLD pulse stretcher?

I like the idea of clamping in hot water. Sounds sexay!

Pulse stretching is doing regular stretching but shifting between 100% and 110% streching.

Like this:
10 seconds 90% stretched lenght,
10 seconds 100% stretched lenght,
110% stretched lenght,
10 seconds 90% stretch lenght etc... You get my point

Regarding underwater clamping,it fucking owns

[kingpole Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close kingpole]

What is your grip level when you do PE (jelqing)?

[tkellyps Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tkellyps]

Jack,

Thanks for this thread. I got a lot from it. And the more I thought about it, the more I got. I think you're absolutely right that one needs the maximum erection to obtain the most satisfactory results. And you're right, too, that the brain will give you that erection. I do my stretches and my slow jelqing and it goes as expected. And then you feel that particular tingle through your groin and then throughout your body. You know then that the brain has kicked in. You feel a hormonal rush. And you instantly see and feel the difference in your penis. But it is difficult to maintain that. I, too, will clamp at that point to help maintain, though I don't like to do so for more than 20 minutes at a time.

Seems to me that part of the problem with maintaining that erection is that we too often become "trained" to think of the erection as being just one step toward the ultimate goal of orgasm and ejaculation. If we don't follow through to orgasm and ejaculation, then the brain will tend to back off and then one goes flacid. Seems to me that one has to try to simply remove orgasm and ejaculation from the equation altogether, at least sometimes. Let the erection itself become the goal. Find satisfaction in a full hard erection. Find joy in it. Feel the exileration of the hormonal rush when body and mind are working together. We are like Pavlov's dogs. If we find joy/satisfaction in something, then our minds and bodies will remember and will help us to more easily recreate that experience. But it does take patience. And practice. And a rethinking of what gives us satisfaction. And fun.

[Cernunnos Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cernunnos]

Wow. This is a really interesting thread. Thanks Jack Bauer!

[Jack Bauer Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jack Bauer]

I see a lot of potential in this thread.

So how can you increase erection pressure? You recommend having an erection for 30-60 minutes while you perform Ulis and jelqs on the penis? What about erect pumping?

I'd like more specific information on this. What exactly do you do? What are the exercises?

My routine is in post #8. I would say anywhere from 15-60 minutes is good for erection duration, it really depends on the person, their fitness level, and how their body responds. If someone can't sustain an erection for more than a couple of minutes, then I would recommend they work on that first before trying this.

Never tried pumping, that's an interesting idea.

[kingpole Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close kingpole]

Sounds like erect kegels or erect kegel jelqs would also improve EP.

[Jack Bauer Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jack Bauer]

Please evaluate in more detail

To me it sounds like your doing DLDī Pulse stretching (Which have given good gains for many).

Regarding post stretching, try "Underwater Clamping" with a bucket of hot water. It has some really freaky potential with minimum risk of injury.

Pulse stretching is very similar. I use the 1-2-3-4-5 count, and progressively stretch the penis more on each count. At 5 I relax slightly and then goto the next rep. The intent is to stretch more and more as the set goes on. Learning how to relax the body is key here.

Also, reps are VERY important, you can't just do 5-10 on each set. The info below is from the contortion handbook and describes their logic when it come to stretching. Much of it can be applied to PE.

Don't"overdo" any exercise until you feel that you are in a so advanced level that you can master it perfectly and see or feel that you've achieved what is shown on the pictures. Let your own body set the limits and instead of overdoing do many repeats. Repeats are the key! 10-25 repeats are usually the best depending on your age, gender, flexibility etc. The number of repeats in this case is a recommendation. If it should be carried out 20 times and you carry it out 40 times, it doesn't mean that you will get twice the flexibility and if you carry it out 60 times you may find that your muscles are stiffening up again. Try to keep the repeats on a level that feels good. The amount of repeats are only a recommendation. You'll find very quickly which amount of repeats is the best for you, but don't do less than 10 repeats.

I started with regular up,down, etc. stretches in the beginning, and now do v-stretches.

[kingpole Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close kingpole]

I think you may be onto something maybe this theory can ignite new gains in vets that have stopped growing. Take a look at erect kegels.

Erect Kegels !!!!!

[C.Phantasy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close C.Phantasy]

Thanks for the great Reply JB. Deserves a Rep point
Ive discovered that if I do pulse stretching for 5 min+ (I do 6 min) I can get a great stretch like stretching a rubberband.

I think you may be onto something maybe this theory can ignite new gains in vets that have stopped growing. Take a look at erect kegels.

Erect Kegels !!!!!

Before I went to bed yesterday I thought about Kegels and Underwater Clamping.
Does Clamping restrict Inflow or does it just restrict outflow? Because if inflow is still open...and we have the ability to kegel...push more blood into the erect penis while the tissue is Super elastic(Due to the hot steamy water)...Combining this with JB theory is like having the key to extreme Gains.

Will buy my clamps from Britain ASAP


But now Something very important regarding kegels.
When we kegel,we excercise the PC muscle. And because the fact is that its a muscle,then bodybuilding theories works superb on it.
EP= Erection pressure from inside the penis caused by pressing more blood into the penis.

I have always advocated "Slowly 5-10 seconds progressive squezzed Kegels" because they improve the strenght/pressure of the kegels.

Stronger Kegels = Stronger EP.

Stronger Kegels while erect = You get my point

This explains why Kooljohn over at Thunderīs has gained so much from edging.

JB,you deserve a hug


Ps.Need a sticky on this one

[Jeff Powers Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jeff Powers]

Hey Jack,
Thanks for the interesting info. Can you explain what you mean by....."I usually start with a stretching routine(up,down,left,right,V-stretches), BUT I use contortion type stretches which are much more effective. when you're referring to the stretching that you do?

Thanks

[kakarotto Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kakarotto]

Itīs a very similar concept to the chemical PE, controlled priapism in order to get expansion.

In another post I write down a routine that could have a good potential:

5 to 7 minutes of Bathmate (water pumping puts the penis under inside to outside preassure and the hot water helps to expand the penis and as a warm up)
10 minutes of jelqs (for circulation and expansion)
[Advanced only] 3 to 5 Squeezes (great expansion exercise)
[Very Advanced only] 5 minutes of Air clamp kakarotto version (with a thigh cock ring below de glans. Inside to outside preasurre)
4x10 to 30 seconds isometrics kegels (with a 100% erection push your penis down until paralell to the floor and the do your kegels)
3 to 5 minutes of Bathmate with cold water (cold down, inside to outside preasurre).

Supplements for the routine (apart of the usuals for health, anti oxidants, greens+, etc.)
- Liquid Cialis (I think 1 ml of 25 mg of Tadalafil every 3rd day will be fine, adjust days and doses for you)

or

- Viagra (your dose) every workout day

Maybe we can combine both, cialis for recovery and viagra for a boost in the workout days but I donīt know yet the protocol we can use because personal experimentation will be required and nowadays in a shared apartment I canīt do too many things

[lmbjless Member Find all posts View Profile Close lmbjless]

Wow! Being new to jelqing this seems like a different style of Jelq. I seem to be getting results with 5 days on & 2 days off but not completly off. I do a lot of streching on the 2 off days. Also, I do different types of streching.

Peace, LMBJLESS

[PhibbysHammer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PhibbysHammer]

Bells are going off and I'm starting to visualize my Post 90 day routine. This is some good stuff men. Thanks a lot Jack!!!