Hypertrophy VS Hyperplasia

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In the world of muscle building there is two trains of thought. one is widely accepted. The other is bashed. Ain't that the truth?! Anytime new information is discovered it takes a couple years for the nay say-ers to shut up. What i refer to is Hyperplasia. Unlike hypertrophy, which is the volumnization of pre-existing cells, hyperplasia is the growth of new ones. In the link i will provide at the bottom is information concerning the science and thought processes surrounding hyperplasia and hypertrophy. In the hypertrophic train of thought low reps with heavy weight and few to moderate sets leads to optimal cell volumnization. When looking back through history at the bodybuilders who used hypertrophic training methods(Dorian Yates, Mike Metzner) it is obvious that the training method works! but what about now? Well today most every bodybuilder on the Mr. Olympia stage trains with high rep-low loads with high sets. Then switches and does high weight low rep, moderate set.

"What's the point", your mostly asking by now?

Simple.

Every person who has ever gained serious pubic inches in their pants do a few things: Start off slow, aim for good form, increase the duration of sessions slowly, increase the number of reps(jelqs, pulls), and then increase intensity from time to time.

Another thing i have noticed while searching through the archives of betterman, thunder's place, and a bit of matter's of size; Is that age plays a huge factor in growth. It seems that the older the man, the more easily he gains. now whether this is from older men knowing slow and steady is key, or the switch in hormones that takes place (higher T to DHT conversion with age) it is hard to say. BUT, none-the-less. if both are considered, then a young man may be able to gain just as much if not more if certain criteria is met. The first criteria-slow and steady causes cellular growth and hyperplasia. The second-DHT is needed. Supplements known to increase DHT is Sorhgum, Creatine ethyl ester, green tea in moderation, L-tyrosine supplements(L-tyrosine is responsible for Dopamine production and dopamine levels directly and indirectly affect and effect DHT conversion.) Also things to keep in mind is something called 5-alpha reductase. This little guy is what converts T to DHT, or so i have read and understand. SO finding out how to increase 5-alpha reductase would be invaluable.

This is my two cents seeking to offer a beacon of light among to the knowledge seeking PE-ers out there. please any information you have concerning this, post it for the world to read!

authors notes: i plan to address fascial enlargement later as more views come.

Lastly i leave yu with an article and an inspirational video from good ol ARNOLD!

Muscle Hyperplasia in Bodybuilding and Weightlifting - Hyperplasia Muscle Enlargement

FOR INSPIRATION TO CONQUER YOUR INNER NAY SAYER!

6 RULES of SUCCESS by Arnold Schwarzenegger [HD] - YouTube

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Another thing i have noticed while searching through the archives of betterman, thunder's place, and a bit of matter's of size; Is that age plays a huge factor in growth. It seems that the older the man, the more easily he gains.

Collagen density decreases with age, thus older men are theoretically more susceptible to plastic deformation

I don't think it is related to hormones, just collagen density

Which is rather unfortunate for younger guys like me

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Hyperplasia theory has been around as long as I can remember and was proven in animals decades ago. I had thought it was well established theory in humans for some time. I had thought speed of movevement was implicated in hyperplasia?

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Hyperplasia theory has been around as long as I can remember and was proven in animals decades ago. I had thought it was well established theory in humans for some time. I had thought speed of movevement was implicated in hyperplasia?

very correct on a few counts. first is that yes it was totally proven. Second many do accept the hyperplasia theory but yes it is proven in humans. The part alot of people do not know about, especially in academic circles is that hyperplasia is possible. Another thing not many know is angiogenesis. thats how men of all ages improves erectile hardness. As pointed out by a few time by key PEgym members(and a little digging on my own) erectile tissue is, YOU GUESSED IT! A TYPE OF SMOOTH MUSCLE!! now, similar to skeletal muscle, smooth will respond to stimuli. Here is my explanation(. It may take quite a bit of time for me to retrace my sources but i hope to post them all. ); in terms of jelqing, think of the pressure given causing two possible outcomes. first is hypertophy as seen in people with hypertension. The artery is usually a great deal thicker than it should be. The second outcome actually comes from aerobic exercise. turns out everytime you go running or do something that really gets your heart going(and you do so for about anywhere from 20-40minutes) the arteries experience little micro-trauma tears. these tears cause little pockets of blood collections. Now here is the cool part! in these little micro-traumas when enough blood collects or a slow down in blood flow through the area, low levels of oxygenation occurs. in areas that damage has occured and oxygen is not present, or in low low levels, growth mechanisms usually deactivated by the prescence of oxygen, GO NUTS! what happens is that the artery begins angiogenesis! within a matter of hours, thousands of collacteral mini arteries form around the damage section. eventually the damaged section is either eaten away or gets split up into several more arteries and re-routed a bit. now with the growth that occurs, along with daily cardio to enlarge the new mini arteries....means an assload of growth! I believe this explanation of angiogensis accounts for part of the tremedous gains that going411by7 experienced. Not to mention all the anti-oxidants he takes which promotes angiogenesis even more.

ALSO: stretching seems to have an interesting effect also on fascia. In bodybuilders who regularly engaged in stretching, have by and large more beefy appearance(though less dense) on average. muscle an fitness published an article on the subject about a year and ahalf ago. Turns out collagen isn't quite so invulnerable. collagen fibers are replaced by the body on a regular basis. Whether by cell turnover or the need to replace damage fibers, when collagen is replaced, in the context of penis enlargement, by stretching regularly it is possible to actually manipulate the growth of penis collagenous fibers. This manipulation i believe is what leads to growth. In light of that information, I concluded two things. first: stretching the penis should be a DAILY in not TWICE daily endeavor to get the best length gains, along with a boost in girth gains. In the manipulation of cells and fibers, it is not how much force is applied, it is how LONG it is applied. By using a light to moderate pull twice daily every day for about 10-20 minutes or so a piece, in conjunction with a healthy number of erections(keeping in mind that hardness is a factor in gains, so when EQ goes down slow up on the stretching and wait for jeqling gains to catch up), great gains should be made. As seen by the success in time demonstrated by the VETERANS of PE, it all comes down to dedication, time, and patience.

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The academics I knew, were aware of hyperplasia some time ago. As I remember, the research back then was on the role speed of movement played in it's development in humans. Swimmers, kayakers and similar athlets showed more evidence of it than bodybuilders and especially powerlifters. Of course I am going back a little, Fred (Dr Squat) Hatfield phd gave a lecture I attended late 80's possibly early 90's.

Your theory seems to support devices particularly extenders.
How do anti oxidants support angiogemesis when this is a low oxygen state?

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To the OP, nice post dude. I approve.

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The academics I knew, were aware of hyperplasia some time ago. As I remember, the research back then was on the role speed of movement played in it's development in humans. Swimmers, kayakers and similar athlets showed more evidence of it than bodybuilders and especially powerlifters. Of course I am going back a little, Fred (Dr Squat) Hatfield phd gave a lecture I attended late 80's possibly early 90's.

Your theory seems to support devices particularly extenders.
How do anti oxidants support angiogemesis when this is a low oxygen state?

well, let me refer to the erection tea that kingpole and a few others use and had a hand in creating. The tea is a rich blend of antioxidants and similar substances. They have noticed a significant improvement in erection health, general health, and blood vessel health because of the antioxidants among other things. Antioxidants, essentially without going ridiculously deep into the processes, provide an optimal(free radical free) environment that reduces cellular damage in the repair process. To put simply, it helps more growth factor both accumulate and reduces the amount of free radicals that ALSO accumulate in the area. It doesn't sound like anti-oxidants do a whole lot, but you have to keep in mind that the average diet today is littered with free-radical agents and that the body itself produces free radicals. When anti-oxidants are introduced to the body, the growth which we want to happen, is boosted in essence, by the sudden fall off of free-radical damage.

P.S- also, yes i do support extenders, but not pumps. I have tried both so im not merely "hating" on the pump. I found zero erectile growth or increased hardness from pumps. in fact i found the opposite.

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Well hormones will play a role, but in that case a younger guy in theory should gain quicker if he is able to recover quicker. Or, it could be that DHT is a bigger factor in growth and gains than testosterone. The thing I wonder about the most is, why do gains seem to slow down over time even with good quality sessions? Or is it just certain people, like me for example. I'll go months and months sometimes at the same size according to measurements, yet I have ever improving quality sessions, and good size from the sessions, my penis feels heavier, yet the measurements say its the same.

Then some months later after that, BOOM, there is a sudden growth spurt, but where did it come from?