As far as i understand, the main point behind jelging is to force blood and eventually expand tissue over time, good stuff, Pumping on the other hand does pretty much the same thing however it uses low pressure to pull the penis outwards evenly. Why is jelging suppose to work while pumping doesnt?
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Pumping is supposed to work, according to other PE'ers (I've never tried pumping), if you do it consistently and make a routine out of it. It's just expensive to get a really good pump.Physiological Indicators (the original post)
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Let say i do pumping 10 minutes and then 10 minutes of Jelging, is going to make a difference? Doing pumping is much better as the gauge is always right while jelging, unless you've been doing it for a while and you know exactly how much pressure, where to squeeze and so forth... you cannot get the perfect jelg every single time.. This is why i want to squeeze in some pumping into my routine and if possible exchange the jelging for pumping.
Every single time, i hear people talk about pumping, they are always talking about it being temporary and even if they do it full time, its still doesnt make any permanent gains.. this confuses me a lot as to why they say that while jelging is said to work. (i've had no gains yet)
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Pumping
Originally posted by TheAssMan View PostLet say i do pumping 10 minutes and then 10 minutes of Jelging, is going to make a difference? Doing pumping is much better as the gauge is always right while jelging, unless you've been doing it for a while and you know exactly how much pressure, where to squeeze and so forth... you cannot get the perfect jelg every single time.. This is why i want to squeeze in some pumping into my routine and if possible exchange the jelging for pumping.
Every single time, i hear people talk about pumping, they are always talking about it being temporary and even if they do it full time, its still doesnt make any permanent gains.. this confuses me a lot as to why they say that while jelging is said to work. (i've had no gains yet)
I have an expensive pump which I inherited from a friend who underwent removal of his prostate. Although I'm not a pumper I've used it enough to have an opinion. Lasting? I can't say but I've noticed some pumpers in the gym locker room and their dicks are puffed up to an "unnatural" bloated look. Also, you can usually tell a pumper by the depression at the base of their shaft. This tell-tale look kinda defeats the purpose I think. Further, if I pumped up too much pressure, I burst some blood vessels. (Hell I've done that jelqing.)
Bottom line, I recommend you combine pumping with jelqing until you know the effects of pumping. Don't put all you testicles in one bag. When using the pump, shave your pubes and use plenty of lube to seal the base. A big benefit here will be organism while your pumping. But lasting PE, I just don't know.
Cheers
Hooded Jack
BPFSL - 6"
EL - 7"
BPEL - 7 1/2"
EG - 6"
EQ - 9"
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The other day i went to lovers lane and bought a pump, nice gauge that goes to a lot, i cant get more than 17-8 cmHg and i dont want to try pumping more until i get used to it. 100 bucks but hey its very nice.Originally posted by Cernunnos View PostPumping is supposed to work, according to other PE'ers (I've never tried pumping), if you do it consistently and make a routine out of it. It's just expensive to get a really good pump.
Do you have any good pumping program? What vac to start to? What to go to?
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Hey Assman,
Thunder's has a pumping program..............Pumping 101 I believe...........More info on pumping at THunder's Place from what I've seen.Dr. PhibbysHammer has not got 3 degrees from HARVARD, YALE and PRINCETON and is in no way LICENSED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE or PSYCHOLOGY. https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...hacts-phi.html
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Engorged as a permanent thing??
I like your word "engorged". Very descriptive and my impression as well. Let me emphasize that I BELIEVE pumping will have a temporary PUFFY effect on the shaft skin which will likely not last but I might be wrong here. I've seen "pumpers" who have overdone it and their cocks look like the Michelin Man. Also that telltale depression at the base of your shaft is not a convincing sign that you're "for real". But again I think this only comes about from excessing pumping. Just don't build up the vacuum too high or you'll burst some blood vessels. I'll put my bets on jelqing, but your combo exercises sound interesting nevertheless. Please keep us up to date on this.Originally posted by growing4her View PostI bought a pump also. I used it 15 minutes then did a 15 minute jelq session .It got pretty engorged.
Cheers,
Hooded Jack
BPFSL - 6"
EL - 7"
BPEL - 7 1/2"
EG - 6"
EQ - 9"
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Jelqing pushes in fluids , pumping pulls them in. So why would one be temp. gains and one be perm. ?
Im sticking to the pump then jelq routine forr 90 days. Then im taking new measurements and deciding which direction to go with a new routine.
Possibly some guys using the pump are getting greedy and causing the loose mushy build up over pumping. Because with my mild pumping i am rock solid and the foreskin is tightStarting stats JULY 1st ,2009
8" bpel
5.5 erect girth
August 10,2009
8 3/4 bpel !!!
5 3/4 erect girth !!!
Goal
10 bpel
7.5 erect girth
It's official I'm growing a monster
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Pump Pressure and Tell-Tale Indentation at the Base
Growing, I think you might have the answer. Pumping with extreme pressure is likely to cause the unsightful puffing or bloated look. Mild or moderate might prevent this. Worth a try!
Matt, the indentation I speak of is at the base of your shaft where the pump seats against the pubic bone. When you pump up a vacuum in the chamber, it presses the cylinder against the base of your cock. In time, and with excessive pressure, this will cause a circular "dent" in your skin. I don't see any harm but it does "advertise" that you're a pumper.
Hooded Jack
BPFSL - 6"
EL - 7"
BPEL - 7 1/2"
EG - 6"
EQ - 9"
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The Pumpers Ring
Thought I responded to this. Oops! Heavy pumpers usually have a tell-tale indentation or depression at the base of their cock. It circles the entire shaft at its base. This is caused when creating a vacuum in the pump that pulls the device into the pelvic bone. With continued and heavy use this depression may no go away. So when you see a guy with this, chances are he is a heavy and aggressive pumper. His shaft light also looked puffed or bloated.
Hooded Jack
BPFSL - 6"
EL - 7"
BPEL - 7 1/2"
EG - 6"
EQ - 9"
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So then I have a question.
If one were to pump lightly and carefully would you then not get the bloated look, the tell tale depression, and the discolorations?
Also, can we get a picture of the penis of one of these "Aggressive Pumpers"?Last edited by mr.8and1/2; 08-27-2009, 10:02 PM.Starting Length - 6" Starting Girth - (Not measured yet)
NBPEL - 6'' Current Girth - (Not measured yet)
Goal Length - 8 and 1/2" Goal Girth - Undecided
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Aggressive Pumping
I'm not an expert on pumping although I have a very good one. My guess is that if you pump and avoid a heavy vacuum, the indentation and bloating may not occur. Although these signs may occur right after pumping, I believe they disappear. Only continual aggressive use should leave you with lasting effects. I'll poke around the web and see if there are any pics but I'm doubtful. Go easy! The real benefits of PE will come from the exercises shown. You'll notice pumping is not among them. Thus, I think pumping might better belong in the "recreational" category.Originally posted by mr.8and1/2 View PostSo then I have a question.
If one were to pump lightly and carefully would you then not get the bloated look, the tell tale depression, and the discolorations?
Also, can we get a picture of the penis of one of these "Aggressive Pumpers"?
Cheers,
Hooded
Hooded Jack
BPFSL - 6"
EL - 7"
BPEL - 7 1/2"
EG - 6"
EQ - 9"
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Ok, dude, you asked for it. Prepare yourself! lolOriginally posted by mr.8and1/2 View PostAlso, can we get a picture of the penis of one of these "Aggressive Pumpers"?
Galleries / New PicsLast edited by another1or2inches; 09-09-2009, 09:06 PM.Want a bigger bone!
start:
7/8/09: bpel: 7.5" x eg: 6"
8/8/09: bpel: 7.9" x eg 6.1"
stretching at 8.5" - 8.75"
goal: bpel: 9" x eg: 6.5"
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