Is there any LEGIT prove about permanent gains?

[o-chupeta Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close o-chupeta]

I would like to know if there are any credible medical journals which state that manual PE gains are permanent.

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[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

No because there's no medical proof manual PE works at all.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

There is no medical proof. There is, however, a great deal of anicdotal accounts of individuals who have provided self submitted measurements and photographs which appear to "prove" that manual exercises perminanently increase the length and girth of their penises. Some do acknowledge that the gains sometimes are reduced if periodic maintenance routines are not continued. I have not yet come across anyone mentioning complete loss of gains after long term break from PE, but they tend not to return to the PE forums.

[pony2stallion Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pony2stallion]

There's no proof that exercises work but there is proof (at least, a pilot study) that all day extenders lead to permanent gains. A pilot phase-II prospective study to test the []efficacy’ and tolerability of a penile-extender device in the treatment of []short penis’ - Gontero - 2008 - BJU International - Wiley Online Library

I use an andropenis and I've had good gains with it so far.

[delts Member Find all posts View Profile Close delts]

i'm not sure permanent gains should be expected anyway. You don't go to the gym for 6months, pack of 20lbs of muscle, then stop training and expect it to stay there permanently. Thats why so many people never get the bodies they want - cos they want a quick fix and aren't prepared to commit to it as a lifestyle change, a hobby even.

I know the theory of muscular gain is different, but i think the same idea goes.

[jman4490 Member Find all posts View Profile Close jman4490]

i'm not sure permanent gains should be expected anyway. You don't go to the gym for 6months, pack of 20lbs of muscle, then stop training and expect it to stay there permanently. Thats why so many people never get the bodies they want - cos they want a quick fix and aren't prepared to commit to it as a lifestyle change, a hobby even.

I know the theory of muscular gain is different, but i think the same idea goes.

Idk man, muscle gains are lost due to lack of inactivity and they go away because it takes a lot of energy to maintain muscle mass that your body sees as "unnecessary". I think that a prolonged PE routine with a healthy flow of blood to the penis would be enough to keep gains for an elongated amount of time after they have been through the so-called "cementing period". Just a theory.

[master-gauge Senior Member Member of the Month May 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close master-gauge]

My legit proof I carry that around with me all the time .. I know what I had, where I started, and now I know what I HAVE, and I'm not done yet.. It's all the proof I need that this does work.. Like with any physical training you get what you put in to it.. I've been putting 110% to it right now..

[corageon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close corageon]

Sometimes you have to have a little common sense, mixed with wisdom and thorough observation.
There are devices said "proven", but most are anecdotal accounts.
Chemical P.E too, far less medical proof but there have been a few "studies".
Though I would advise to stick mainly with physical exercises and a few tools.

[Eazygeezer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Eazygeezer]

I think studies would prove to be difficult, I mean could you retain an eq of 10 if some old fart of a doctor said right then son let's just measure your penis and started messing around ?

If I could maintain one while another man was inspecting my unit I would be very concerned!!

Tons of anecdotal stuff on here from progress logs etc. but people don't want to believe it for whatever reason. As a gym goer myself I expect that once I have achieved what I want from PE that I will continue a lifelong maintenance schedule, albeit on a cut back scale, to maintain any gains.

The problem as I see it for the majority of people is that they expect gains to come without hard work, patience and dedication. Never gonna happen!!

Sure you might get newbie gains, just like a real gym, but unless you continue the work your body goes back to what it sees as its normal plateau setting. If you're in it for the long haul you will make and keep gains, just look at the long timers on here!

If you think it's a quick fix, I'm afraid you're dreaming.

Proof? I get more frequent and harder erections and I have made some newbie gains. Why lie about it? Sure some people will but at the end of the day, you know what's in your pants and apart from someone else who sees it that's it. You're only lying to yourself, I can't be arsed with all that shit.

Try it and see, what have you got to lose?

[TLCTugger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TLCTugger]

There's no proof that exercises work but there is proof (at least, a pilot study) that all day extenders lead to permanent gains. A pilot phase-II prospective study to test the []efficacy’ and tolerability of a penile-extender device in the treatment of []short penis’ - Gontero - 2008 - BJU International - Wiley Online Library

Wow, those gains (about 3mm per month) are highly implausible for typical ADS users.

But these WERE NOT typical patients. They had short penis caused by various actual things. They weren't just plain folk looking for more length.

[namsokiek Banned Find all posts View Profile Close namsokiek]

BJU International.

Ha, Ha...BJU international. What kind of degree do you get there, a Mastur's of Fellatio?

[Rybina Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Rybina]

Wow, those gains (about 3mm per month) are highly implausible for typical ADS users.

But these WERE NOT typical patients. They had short penis caused by various actual things. They weren't just plain folk looking for more length.

For the last 7 weeks I have gained 1mm every week. I've been using the measuring tool that comes with the Bathmate X40 Xtreme, it's very accurate so gains are genuine! Before that my gains were also consistant but slower as I wasn't able to extend for so many hours every day.

For the last seven weeks I've been exceeding 50 hours extending every week in my Penimaster Pro (extending 6 days a week) and using my Bathmate (3 x 5 mins) on the same days. (Saturdays is my rest day).

If you put the effort (and sacrifices) in, then you get the gains, it's as simple as that with extending. It's not so much how long you wear the extender for, it's what you sacrifice to be able to. I can't count how many summers days I've spend in my lounge this year with my extender and pyjama shorts on whilst I've smelt barbeques and heard neighbours having parties and splashing around in hired jacuzzi's.

But check out my gains in my sig, I've got all winter now to extend like a freak I've also just ordered a Phallosan Forte to extend (hopefully) when I'm sleeping aswell.

3mm a month is totally possible if the dedication is there bro.

[Dick Whammy Retired Moderator Member of the month Jan 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Dick Whammy]

I would like to know if there are any credible medical journals which state that manual PE gains are permanent.

Regards,

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[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Amen Rybina!