7.5 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG cemented : Probable PE dead-end ???

[mystic wolf Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mystic wolf]

The title says it all but very probably it needs a bit of an explanation... Dont know if you all have noticed, like I did, that most of PE performers seem to geto to a dead end in their progress as they reach 7.5 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG or thereabouts... Maybe our penises are programmed to reach that size and not go further, much like in bodybuilding, one will have a certan growth potential beyond which the only way to get bigger is to cheat by chemicals... Now, if one starts from an already pretty big penis he will reach his dead-end very fast, whereas it could take something more for a man who starts from lower average for example but they both well get there eventually no matter how they struggle to make their penises grow... Of course one could start from a bigger size such as 8x6 or 7 x 6.5 and so on , well it there will be a dead end for them as well although it could be harder to say exactly where.. they already start big so their cock could have a lot of growth potential... You may ask yourself why I made a thread on a pparently obvious issue... well, I ve been on Pe since october 2010 and my only gains where those I got in my first two months - yes, newbie gains!- and that was all... All my later efforts were useless once I got to 7.5x5.5 .. After 2 years and more I m still 7.5 x 5.5 bone pressed and midshaft girth... and I started from 7.3 x 5.4 so.... do the math yourself...

[DaddyDick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DaddyDick]

That sucks!!! Not much more to say about that. Do you use tools or just your hands?

[LilNudeDude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LilNudeDude]

Interesting observation.

I have read it more than once, by senior guys as well, calling it "diminishing returns". You'll start out quick in your first couple years like you said, but then you will notice a slower growth rate with each successive year.

The guys that have gone from average, say 6", to 9 & 10 inches, have none it over a LONG period, 10+ years, and by changing technique such as jelqing to hanging.

That's what I got from digging around the forums anyway.

[tef1 Member Find all posts View Profile Close tef1]

It is true that your gains will slow down a lot after your newbie gains but mine did not stop at 7.5 X 5.5. I have found that the harder the gains are to come by the more intensity you need.

[mystic wolf Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mystic wolf]

Thanks mates for your answers! I m glad you didint neglect my post... Anyway mates you are right when you say the more intensity is needed when one reaches his grotwh potential.. To reply GrowingMine, I only used my hand and from time to time I enjoy edging while watching porn while wearing a sock thightened around the base on my penis so that its veins are about to pop and my girth increase by an half centimeter (1/5 of an inch) reaching 14,6 cm.. This "temporary gain" only last as long as I keep the sock on and fade away almost instantly when I take it off... Anyway I did never try haning or ADS and maybe it would be time for me to try..who knows... anyway my growth potential thru hands only exercise has come...

[CompensatingForMuscleMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CompensatingForMuscleMass]

Doesn't work that way. Skeletal muscle is limited by hormones, penis size is limited by nothing.

You probably had bad EQ, and your EQ improved with PE but you weren't actually doing anything that was enough to enlarge your penis. The tissues do get tougher and there's a probability of minor scar tissue which can make gains very tough, but PE should not have any "diminishing" returns.

I've been at this for 2 years without any real gains, it's very hard sometimes to find a routine that produces gains. I gained like 0.5" over 6 months, and 0.3" over like 1-2 weeks. My gains are only going faster because I finally started upping my volume.

[mystic wolf Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mystic wolf]

Doesn't work that way. Skeletal muscle is limited by hormones, penis size is limited by nothing.

You probably had bad EQ, and your EQ improved with PE but you weren't actually doing anything that was enough to enlarge your penis. The tissues do get tougher and there's a probability of minor scar tissue which can make gains very tough, but PE should not have any "diminishing" returns.

I've been at this for 2 years without any real gains, it's very hard sometimes to find a routine that produces gains. I gained like 0.5" over 6 months, and 0.3" over like 1-2 weeks. My gains are only going faster because I finally started upping my volume.

So mate, would you care to share your shock routine on this board? thank you very much in advance! hopefully it'll help me too

[CompensatingForMuscleMass Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CompensatingForMuscleMass]

It's not a shock routine. It's big al's jelq free routine 5 on/2 off.
Big Al Squeezes/side 2 side stretches (I turned them into helicopters instead, works very well as you can see). The stretch I do for 5 minutes, the squeezes I varied alot looking for girth gains. It seems only length gains are changing with volume. The volume changes is what seems to spark sudden big gains after a period of nothing. Twice now I've gained alot in a short time during about 30-40 squeezes. Now I'm at 40+ and I thought I gained alot this week, but actually it shrunk a bit. I think it swells temporarily and then it shrinks smaller. When I drop the volume I think I will have sudden gains again.

For you a totally different schedule might be better though. Maybe you respond better to 1 on/1 off, or maybe you need 20-30 squeezes instead. I think the best is to vary the volume alot, start very low and increase slowly if you don't gain. Once you gain, keep at that volume until you stop gaining and then change it up again.