Average Penis Size Studies - BPEL?

[CaptainJohnson Retired ModeratorSenior MemberPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CaptainJohnson]

So you have three choices:

1) Accept that she is a statistical anomaly
2) Accept that she has no idea what she is talking about
3) Stop caring

No matter what you choose, you will have to let it go. There is no way to really know if it is true or not and it is not worth your time and effort to worry about it. Just keep your PE up lance

[Lance85 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lance85]

Maybe I should post in the relationship forum. I keep bringing this stuff up to her and she hates it, wants me to forgive her, wants to marry me, etc. There's more to it than just the penis comments but it's at the point where I have to either remove her from my life or completely drop it and enjoy her as my soon-to-be wife. Bringing it up all the time is literally killing us AND i'm obsessing about it (and other things she's said/done to me) to the point where it's affecting my occupation, quality of life, driving me into a spiral of depression, etc.

[Unforgiven Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Unforgiven]

Don't marry anyone unless you both totally respect each other and don't even think about it before your thirty. Just my thoughts.

[Glamissand1 Senior Member Member of the Month March 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close Glamissand1]

I would recommend you to have sex with her first. Then aim for her cervix and pound it a few times. Shell tell you to stop, your to deep. She sounds as thou she knows very little about sex and even her own depth. You may be over reacting to her lack of knowledge. As far as pornstars go, we will all be there sooner or later. So ask yourself is she a good woman, will she be a loving mother to your children. Will she love you whole heartedly.

[Lance85 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lance85]

I would recommend you to have sex with her first. Then aim for her cervix and pound it a few times. Shell tell you to stop, your to deep. She sounds as thou she knows very little about sex and even her own depth. You may be over reacting to her lack of knowledge. As far as pornstars go, we will all be there sooner or later. So ask yourself is she a good woman, will she be a loving mother to your children. Will she love you whole heartedly.

She is DEFINITELY a good woman, will be an excellent mother and wife. She's a very pure and good hearted person but inexperienced with this kind of stuff. Just sucked and I felt not good enough for someone who doesn't even have sex.

How the hell do you aim for the cervix? I've only been with one girl before that I bottomed out on and felt it, nobody else. When i finger my fiance I can feel her cervix but I've had that with other women too. During sex I don't feel it. Any tips?

[Jm123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jm123]

Thinking about this, I figure it is a control attempt aka Bluff. Lets think about it for a minute from the woman's perspective. If you are a real catch and the woman knows it, she will try to keep you. So lets say you have the biggest dick that she has seen in real life, by far, plus all the other crap, and she knows how many women value this. She will attempt to manipulate you into thinking you are lower worth than her, so she has the upper hand. So she tells you all of the ones before you were bigger, and thus she can go out and get a bigger one anytime she wants.Which means she is higher worth because only valuable women get big dicks, and your's is a big dick, and she figures you being a straight man have not seen a lot of other guys dicks hard.

Think of it in a similar manner to a wing-woman, you know the hot girl that goes to the club and talks you up so other women want you. She is trying to talk herself up so you want her, and put you down so you won't leave because she is being kind by taking your "small" dick. Look think about how most women talk about guys with big dicks being arrogant. (crazy woman thinking)You have a big dick and are not arrogant, she must keep you that way, or she will lose you. Or you are just one unlucky bastard.

[Ravenously Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ravenously]

Wtf?

[Dr. Jay92 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dr. Jay92]

Most studies outside of PE do not use the bone pressed method, but rather they measure the length to the fatpad. Which is really stupid if u ask me.

PE does it the correct way which is bone pressed.

[Trowawa Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Trowawa]

Any one that doesn't bone-press generally gets ~12.5cm, e.g. Ponchietti et al (Italian study) uses NBPFSL, while BPFSL is nearly 1" longer at ~14.2", like the Brasil study (Penile anthropometry in Brazilian ... [J Pediatr (Rio J). 2007 Sep-Oct] - PubMed - NCBI). The Brasil study is amazing since it clearly outlines their exact methodology, and spells out how they measure (calling it RSLmax), and they get 14.2cm at the median.
Wessells is incorrectly ascribed as being one of the smaller averages, but that's simply because they make a major distinction between BP and NBP. At NBP it's a 5.1" average, but the BP is an inch longer.
Comparing your BP to an NBP measurement is silly, and a bunch of 5" guys may think they're average because they compare their most favourable BP to an NBP measurement, but that's actually below average (though just a smaller size, not what anyone reasonable would consider really little. We can't all be above the median, after all.) While I think 6" is a little high even for BP, most studies that use that methodology do get in the high-5"s, around 5.75".

The Lifestyles study came out with great data, but unfortunately very little on their methodology. Part of why the Brasil study used RSLmax was because measurements came out significantly different between different people measuring the same penis when they used NBP. Just based on the numbers and the scant info on their methodology, they sound BP or 'lightly BP' (ie it's pushed in, not jammed in.) I'm fairly certain they had a massive sample bias, since they only took volunteers hence those measured were more likely to be bigger, or at very least those who were small were far less likely to volunteer. Since men tend to think in length, you'll notice in their numbers (check mraverage.com ) there are so few lengths <4.5" there, yet quite a few girths <3.5", since those thinner-dicked guys likely still volunteer as they feel no embarrassment over it - as they shouldn't. For that reason I think their median is a better indicator than their average, so 5.65" is what they get. This is in-line with my assertion that avg NBP is ~5", and avg BP is ~5.75".

Oh and to the tangential discussion about a girl having slept with 3 other guys that are all ~7", the answer is almost certainly this: she really doesn't give a damn about your dick size. To most women I've known (or conversations overheard), penis size is mostly just a throwaway joke and not thought of much more. Even to the most cock-obsessed women (and I've dated quite a few ) she won't obsess over any penis 1/1000th as much as its owner does. The odds of all 3 other guys being your size or bigger are incredibly small, only if you think she recons dick size the way you do. To someone who doesn't care, a 7x6 isn't much different from a 6x5. She could also just have had an impression of one as bigger than it was, and our memories tend to distort over time (the number of women who claim their first lover was enormous is impossibly high. Penises, in general, I think I bigger than one would expect them to be, so the first usually seem big.)

I don't want to invalidate all my last points, but if it is a control thing, it may be because you care about it too much and she'd rather you concentrate on other things. I'd just measured myself at 7.75" BPEL (though with a lot of pushing) so I usually put myself at 7.25", statistically plenty big. My gf used to talk about my dick a lot at the start of this relationship, but I think got sick of how obsessed I'd get over it. She stopped talking about it so much and would instead always be asking me to do non-penis things sexually, which are much more important to nearly everyone than anything you can do with your dick. Eventually she mentioned how huge one of her exes was, I think in a bid to get me to stop just slapping her in the face with my dick and nothing else.
Now, don't think me terrible (though I probably should've stopped reading sooner) as this isn't weasel-worded, but we both have each other's email passwords and everything, and often have our accounts up, so nobody was 'sneaking in'. I'd just searched on what I thought was my account and an old email between her and said ex came up. In it he'd claimed a 7" dick. 7"! We're the same length, but he's huge somehow. Her BJs are plenty toothy already, so he couldn't have been much thicker either. The exchange overall sounded pretty focused (by him) on his penis too. This was a guy who she had great chemistry with, but things fell apart when they couldn't make a relationship work (after falling in love), so I know they got in to some massive fights -- one had him steal the key to her place and let himself in while she was in the shower -- and it was really awful overall. This is almost certainly not your situation, but it's one I was in and can hopefully help you understand someone's motives a little better. She got burned by some big-dicked guy who (like all guys) is obsessed with his own dick after she indulged that obsession, and is skittish about it now.

[wind chill Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close wind chill]

never cared about these studies on what is average.It is simple if it looks big in your hand/looking in the mirror from all angles then your good.If not then it's small.Flaccid is irelevant

[Growlballs Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Growlballs]

For some reason, it feels like my penis aint that big.
Im wondering if the average of 5.5" might actually be NBP?

[Golf1094 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Golf1094]

For some reason, it feels like my penis aint that big.
Im wondering if the average of 5.5" might actually be NBP?

From what I've read here the average is done by BPEL in order to take the fat pad out of the equation and make a much more accurate estimate because some people have larger fat pads than others.

[Growlballs Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Growlballs]

From what I've read here the average is done by BPEL in order to take the fat pad out of the equation and make a much more accurate estimate because some people have larger fat pads than others.

Lifestyle condoms study was NBPEL and that study showed that the median was 5.65" length and 4.67" girth

[Pucko Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pucko]

Lifestyle condoms study was NBPEL and that study showed that the median was 5.65" length and 4.67" girth

Are you sure? That seems odd.. every other study shows the same figures for BPEL.. why would that study be NBPEL? Whats your source?

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Are you sure? That seems odd.. every other study shows the same figures for BPEL.. why would that study be NBPEL? Whats your source?

Yep^^^.