Hypothesis: Olive Oil isn't bad, here's why...

[homelesswombat Member Find all posts View Profile Close homelesswombat]

I was thinking about the debate over whether or not olive oil is bad to do PE with because of it prevents DHT formation. Indeed, studies have shown repeatedly that olive oil reduces the amount of DHT locally (http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4689248_olive-oil-help-hair-loss.html), but plenty of guys who use olive oil as a PE lube have seen great gains. Some of my best girth gains were made when I was using olive oil as my primary lube.

If olive oil prevents DHT formation and DHT seems to be a necessary component of penis growth, what's going on here? I recently had the thought that perhaps the short-term drop in DHT levels caused by the use of olive oil during a PE session could actually cause the body to up-regulate DHT production and receptor levels. I'll explain further. It is a well known fact that when using topical DHT cream (brand name Andractim) the user must apply it in 1-3 week cycles. This is because with all that excess DHT being introduced into the system, the body down-regulates DHT production and receptor levels.

So was wondering how to best take advantage of this knowledge (and also test my hypothesis), and I had the idea that switching from olive oil to another lube every two weeks would cause the body to continually maximize DHT production in a periodic manner.

So maybe olive oil isn't so bad after all

Thoughts?

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Never stopped me from gaining and I have used it regularly.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Well I use alot on salads etc, not as a lube. Didn't know there was any controversy about it.

[Radiohead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Radiohead]

Very good observation, homeless!

Since we're not scientists or doctors we will have to really research the subject in matter. Your theory is very impressive though. It makes quite a bit of sense.

Though you have to be willing to accept that this theory might also be wrong. The only way to see if it works is if you get ''Clinical Trials'' with several different men. This is where it gets complicated. Everybody is different, there are different types of olive oil brands, different technique, etc...Peoples diets are different so that might affect DHT levels also. Therefore if you were to perform a study with 20 men, the results might be ''all over the place''.

In any case, I feel a little uncomfortable with the idea of reducing my DHT levels.

If youre willing to cycle olive oil every two weeks, please keep us updated. We would definitely be interested in seeing if this works.

My question is: Do you think there are other ways of getting the body to increase DHT levels with having to first lower them temporarily? Imagine if some men manage to lower the DHT levels locally with olive oil, and their bodies cannot produce the extra DHT levels because of x, y, z reasons.

[frb3 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close frb3]

Then there is the question of where is Olive Oil from and what grade are you using. Extra Virgin is my favorite in the Italian Section. Extra Virgin is from the first pressing of the olives, or if you prefer oil that hasn't been fucked with to any extent. I'd go down a few grades for personal lubricants. Then you get into the question of where the oil is from and does this male any difference. I.E. Italy, Spain, North Africa, the Middle East or Greece. Which brings up the question of how do you seperate the men from the boys in Greece. Ans: With a crowbar.

Sorry about that. Methinks you are getting a bit to technical. Anecdotally the survey on penal size indicates that Italian men have a 1/2" advantage over us WASP's as an average. Not scientific but indicative of maybe reading too much into the DHT.

[homelesswombat Member Find all posts View Profile Close homelesswombat]

Well I use alot on salads etc, not as a lube. Didn't know there was any controversy about it.

Well, I saw this thread and thought there has got to be something more going on here because of gainers like goin411x7.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...-here-why.html

Indeed radiohead, this is a near impossible theory to truly "test" in the scientific sense. There is so much going on in any given male body/life that just developing a real control group would be a task in itself. Personally I don't think that the two week cycle is necessary; the body's response to the temporary drop in DHT probably kicks in immediately. As soon as the olive oil has been metabolized and/or washed off from the local area (penis), it's DHT preventing effects will go away too, allowing the up-regulated DHT levels to take effect. But just for shits and giggles, I'm going to try the 2 week rotation just to see what happens.

[sacc Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sacc]

This DHT inhibiting is the reason I stopped using emu oil on my penis.

[Radiohead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Radiohead]

I'm wondering, is there a follow up on this?

[Guest Close mrfun]

I have used extra virgin olive oil when jelqing, havent get so muc hgains because of some time off, but the best gains i have had is after kegels and break in jerking off, i can cum like 6-7 feet. Cool as ¤%&/.

Getting nervous when i read this post,

What oil do you people use for jelqing , i think i have read something about a oil called jobobo oil ?

[ErictheGed Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ErictheGed]

Fuck sake. Can we use olive oil or what? i use olive/baby oil mix because baby oils cheap, got loads of olive oil in the house and it feels good. Thought olive oil was good for the skin, is this just a scare story? If g411 uses it surely its all good.

[alin Member Find all posts View Profile Close alin]

Is there any study for the link between olive oil and dht reduction ?

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

If you're using olive oil as a lube ( I prefer it with garlic, pasta and broccoli), there is very little if any penetration into the body.Below the skin is a very tough membrane called the basillar membrane which prevents material that comes into contact with the skin from being absorbed into the body.If you use it for a lube there will be no problem(unless you then put it on your salad!)

[ErictheGed Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ErictheGed]

If you're using olive oil as a lube ( I prefer it with garlic, pasta and broccoli), there is very little if any penetration into the body.Below the skin is a very tough membrane called the basillar membrane which prevents material that comes into contact with the skin from being absorbed into the body.If you use it for a lube there will be no problem(unless you then put it on your salad!)

Good stuff man. Haha nah i'm a chef, just use it for the customers salad! Keep the profits up.

[Elias Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Elias]

Yeah, I am a bit confused about this too. Are we seriously talking about olive oil's upsides & downsides when used as a lube?

And secondly, I don't trust the website that Homelesswombat offers in the first post and neither do I trust the other website on C.Phantasy's thread. The first so called article is written by a woman who is a professional blogger, a website designer, and has a Bachelor's degree in English, and finally, she writes about gardening and parenting. The lady is incompetent to write about that topic and the fact that she doesn't offer any references in her column makes me think that the whole article is just her own thoughts written on a piece of paper without any scientific evidence.

The other website is selling hair growth products so I don't even want to go into the credibility of that website.

I didn't even bother reading neither of the websites - just opened to see them briefly.

If we believe these websites without further examination of the topic at hand from a scientific point of view, we can then start believing the websites that promise 4 inches in length in 4 weeks.

[alin Member Find all posts View Profile Close alin]

Well said Elias.