Relatively New here, help on choosing an extender? Is my theory right?

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So I'm around 45 days into my PE journey, I've been somewhat following the JP90 program but occasionally change it up with Big Al's no jelq routine too. So I've not been seeing any negative PI's if anything many positive PI's as I'm getting harder erections and many more of them (didn't think that was possible it's like a steel pole now haha).

I'm thinking of adding in an extender, either the X4 labs premium edition with the comfort addon, or size genetics as both are pretty reputable companies. My reason behind wanting to implement extenders into my routine is I often turtle right after a session, so implementing an extender could potentially dramatically reduce turtling and lead to quicker gains? (At the moment I'm traction-wrapping while I sleep, which I'd probably continue to do while using the extender).

So the question is which company is the best to go for in terms of overall product satisfaction and customer service, and is my really necessary? (the added bonus of keeping a log for the clinical trial provides lots of motivation as to see the gains, but also the possibility of recuperating some of your money - although I'm not sure how true the double your money statement is.

Any advice is welcomed!

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If you go 4X. I recommend the Deluxe model with the quad support

However, as a beginner, you should consider the VacExtender KR for about $130. It uses a vacuum based head piece, which is quite comfortable.

I have used an X4 with. VacExtender mod kit (V4) for almost five years. However it must be carefully mounted to avoid bruising.

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So I'm around 45 days into my PE journey, I've been somewhat following the JP90 program but occasionally change it up with Big Al's no jelq routine too. So I've not been seeing any negative PI's if anything many positive PI's as I'm getting harder erections and many more of them (didn't think that was possible it's like a steel pole now haha).

I'm thinking of adding in an extender, either the X4 labs premium edition with the comfort addon, or size genetics as both are pretty reputable companies. My reason behind wanting to implement extenders into my routine is I often turtle right after a session, so implementing an extender could potentially dramatically reduce turtling and lead to quicker gains? (At the moment I'm traction-wrapping while I sleep, which I'd probably continue to do while using the extender).

So the question is which company is the best to go for in terms of overall product satisfaction and customer service, and is my really necessary? (the added bonus of keeping a log for the clinical trial provides lots of motivation as to see the gains, but also the possibility of recuperating some of your money - although I'm not sure how true the double your money statement is.

Any advice is welcomed!

I would reconsider on those brands.

I tried an X4 labs extender many years ago, ended up having to do a charge back and getting a whole new credit card as a result, annoying... as I had many deductions I had to re-setup for various things. Their refund policy is a joke.

I tried also a Sizegenetics but same thing, tension was way too high to wear the product effectively for hours and hours on end, customer support was ok but the product itself was just not as I expected. For a newbie to wear at such high tension is ridiculous, anyway ended up having one of my room mates stealing it just before I moved out, what an idiot - but that's another story.

I read another post here from an admin which stated that higher tension advertising is basically a marketing gimmick, I would agree with that totally. I am 8 months in to using an extender - on and off mind you but I would consider myself quite an advanced user by now, and anything above 1500 grams for me is just over the top. Most of my significant gains have been when wearing for 3 hours plus a day in the range of 1000 to 1500 grams - varied.

All the best on your PE journey!

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Thanks for your help guys, I decided to give the x4 labs ago, purely on the flip of a coin as all the information was pretty much saying they are pretty much the same device, with similar build qualities. How true the claims they make are, I'm not sure, but it has been clinically proven that extenders do work found on pubmed

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I agree extenders have been proven to work by many studies partial and impartial. My personal use has proven it to myself and I have no regrets on the purchase of an extender. FYI, I've found the standard base on the X4 Labs a bit clunky and uncomfortable, but extremely durable. The girth base has too many sharp peaks to be comfortable in the up or down position. I do use the girth base after taking the dremel grinder to it and adding silicone sleeve padding to it to make it comfortable.

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I mean.. those extenders are just literal clones of the cheap 20 dollar ebay extenders, I hope you realize that. They are so damn uncomfortable. Just my opinion. I'm definitely going with the Phallosan my next go around.

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I've bought several ebay extenders and the difference is the materials used.

ebay clone base and support pvc or some odd plastic that will split vs X4 Labs nylon
ebay clone springs mismatch no known rating vs X4 matched and rated springs
ebay clone strap and noose unknown material vs X4 silicone
ebay clone rods threading off center vs X4 consistent machining

You also have it backwards the ebay versions are cheaply made clones of the named brand.

I do believe the named brand are over priced, and are significantly more comfortable than the cheap clones, but are any extenders comfortable out of the box? They are varying degrees of uncomfortable when worn.

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The extender arrived today, getting the damn thing on is a pain though, once it's on it's not too bad just need to figure out how tight to hold my penis into it haha. Yeah I agree with you pfm, I did think about getting one from eBay but thought my penis deserves the best. The extender base isn't that uncomfortable actually and luckily no sharp peaks so maybe the design is refined a little.

Pretty happy with my decision and have no regrets (yet) but looking forward to continuing a lovely PE journey!

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Size genetics is super comfortable and has given me great gains. takes me less than 15 seconds to put it on and take it off. Never experience slippage either even tho my girth is shit

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I do like the contours of the SG base, but have never tried using one.

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Then try it, it is risk free and guaranteed