Phallosan User Gains Table

[PursuingPerfection Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PursuingPerfection]

Oh yeah and I switch sides at the halfway point 6 hours in. I only wear it in the evening and when I'm in bed. 6pm-6am.

Im 24 years old living in Denver Colorado. I'm 5'11 160lbs, white male. My goal is 7 to 7.5 nbpel. If I gain an inch in length in the next 4 months/1500 hours I'll be very pleased.

[Skinny_Rattler Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Skinny_Rattler]

Cool, no problem cockmasterflex, do you want me to put you on the list anyway, just as motivation for you? Just give me your details that I ask for at the start of the thread and I will put you up

Ill send you a PM with the info you can count me in I just order my phallosan yesterday.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Thanks WantABiggerPenis! One question though, how come you don't measure erect length? Because if you have erect goals, surely you would want to know what you started at?

To Skinny_Rattler, that is great, glad to have you on board, give me your stats and I will put you up

[PursuingPerfection Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close PursuingPerfection]

Oh my erect length is the same as my stretched flaccid but only when I have good EQ. I've been stressed lately so my eq hasn't been that great plus I read it's more accurate to measure stretched flaccid so that's just what I've been focusing on.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Ok cool, did you check out the TGC theory in the PE science forum on this site? Sounds like your tunica is the limiting factor, so the phallosan will probably help a lot. I have a limiting smooth muscle factor so will need to incorporate some more girth work.
Ah yeh, stress will do that to your EQ alright. Go to the sauna and then have a swim

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Bumpety bump bump bump

[Pathfinder Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Pathfinder]

kickinthemebs, that is a great idea that you have had. I am planning to join the experiment early next year.

One thing that could make the experiment even better is validation of the gains. I think that we need to be better at metrology (science of measurements). Even a bpel could yield slightly different results in the same day if the protocol changes slightly. This could distort the measured gains.

My suggestion is for each of the participants to do the following:

1) measure bpel with hard ruler- press bone until it hurts quite a lot- record length in mm
(avoid inches if at all possible, and I am not saying this because am European but because inches are less accurate as there is more distance between marks on a ruler)

2) repeat step 1 at 4 different times during the same day

3) calculate AVERAGE of the recorded measurements and calculate measurement ERROR (=[max measurement - average] OR [average - min measurement])

4) practise your measurement protocol over a few days until all measurements fall between [average - error] and [average+error]. Write down the protocol. Then you have found a consistent way to measure your length.

5) In future, use the same protocol, and only report gains which are above the error.

6) also measure and report fat pad as this is another factor that can distort the experiment.

If all participants follow the steps above then that should improve kickinthemebs's experiment PLUS you get a more reliable way to measure your gains, and choose to vary your routine when you stall.

So I d suggest adding in the table the following columns:

-measurement validation methodology: adheres Y or N?
-measurement error: xxx mm

[Steneo Senior MemberPEGym Hero Member of the Month Dec 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close Steneo]

You can add me

1. Initial measurements: Starting BPEL: 6.75", Starting MSEG: 4.375, Starting BPFSL: 7.5"
2. Gains: 0.125" BPEL, 0 MSEG, 0.125" BPFSL
3. Total hours as of that last measurement = 250, total hours currently = 360
4. Usage variable hours with rest (6 on, 1 off generally)
5. Currently doing jelqs in addition

Notes: Prior to the phallosan I logged 1,000 hours extending with the andropenis and the full JP90 (so I'm not a newbie and no newbie gains to be had here). 33 years old, 6'4", 177 lbs, walk 8-10 miles every day, no supplements. More details can be found in my log.

[Pathfinder Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Pathfinder]

Sounds a bit tedious but I believe that s the way to go.........


I believe that bpel should be exactly equal to bpfsl and if it is not, then the issue is that EQ is not 100%

[Steneo Senior MemberPEGym Hero Member of the Month Dec 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close Steneo]

Sounds a bit tedious but I believe that s the way to go.........


I believe that bpel should be exactly equal to bpfsl and if it is not, then the issue is that EQ is not 100%

I'm sorry but this (in bold) is just not the case for everybody.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Thanks for the suggestion Pathfinder, and I look forward to including you on the table when you participate.
As it stands though the table can't really hold anymore columns haha, it looks like it is going to burst as it is.
Perhaps members can post how they validated it or not if they wish when they reply about their gains but I will
not hold them to it. I do something similar to what you do, I measure a few times over a few days and if I hit
the gain consistently I will record it, if not, I won't.
Hope to hear your gains soon enough

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Thanks Steneo, you are added.
Great gains, keep it up, I want to be adding more gains in a few weeks for you

[Pathfinder Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Pathfinder]

I'm sorry but this (in bold) is just not the case for everybody.

Steneo,

Thanks for your comment, you re absolutely right, I just read the post on TGC on PE Theory......

bpel and bpfsl coincide in my case but may not for everybody....

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Yeh, my bpfsl is way longer than my erect length. Hopefully I can fill in those smooth muscles in the coming months though

[Steneo Senior MemberPEGym Hero Member of the Month Dec 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close Steneo]

Steneo,

Thanks for your comment, you re absolutely right, I just read the post on TGC on PE Theory......

bpel and bpfsl coincide in my case but may not for everybody....

A very interesting and valuable read for sure...just doesn't seem to be universally accurate.

By the way, I think your comments on measuring are interesting, specifically about not reporting gains until they fall outside the calculated error. I may try this in the future as my gains (likely) slow down. It seems wise, especially when dealing with the measurement of something that is, itself, subject to natural variability.

Looking forward to seeing your contribution to this thread in the future