no girth why?

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

I gained about an inch already if not more in length

but zero girth since I started.
I got a pump in December and been using that but still have zero girth increase.

usually pump at 5hg sometimes a little big above.

I tried clamping or whatever its called where I squeeze at the base and hold it. that's what I did before I got the pump
but I have zero increase in girth
what am I doing wrong?

[Brand Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Brand]

Can you please lay your routine out for everyone to see? (including minutes, intensity, how long you've been doing PE for etc.)

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

My guess is that you need to either up the intensity or/and frequency/time.
You should get "fatigued" at some point.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

for now I just do pump
for about 20-30 minutes total
5-10 minutes each
ive been trying different ways before pump for about a year now.
had no increase in girth either.

at one point the head got noticeably bigger. but then shrunk again and I don't know why.

maybe I need more recovery time

I take a break when I start losing Eq.
but usually its rather sore after the workout so I don't think my intensity or frequency is lacking.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

whats the best HG for girth anyway?
I usually do it at 5hg with short bursts to 10 and over once a week.

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

Did you do Jelqing in the past?

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

at one point the head got noticeably bigger. but then shrunk again and I don't know why.

maybe I need more recovery time

I take a break when I start losing Eq.
but usually its rather sore after the workout so I don't think my intensity or frequency is lacking.

Then cut the intensity a bit back when you you start losing EQ but keep time and frequency up.

The glans is the best example. It's a very flexible part. There's no tough Tunica to it.
You can keep the elastic expansion up for some days or weeks and it will appear bigger.
But when you stop the stretch it will snap back to the baseline. Recovery wont give you any glans gains.
For it to expand, fatigue/expansion needs to be carried over from day to day until plastic deformation is reached.

My guess is for a tissue like the glans it's possible that weeks of expansion work could be lost within 48 hours of no stretch.
The tunica is a bit easier. Plastic deformation is reached faster but also needs to build up.

I think loss of EQ shouldn't be an automatic break. I often clamp for continuous days and loose EQ but reach a weird state of tired heavy flaccid.
I think I will start a thread about this.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

That was a big post..
Tl;Dr
Stopping completely when loosing EQ might mean all the expansion created will be lost.
"Riding the fatigue" like Old School hangers did for length is probably better.
Which means; lowering intensity to keep the fatigue and expansion going.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

I noticed sometimes head gets bumpy before it gets smaller.
usually its smooth when pumping and then I see gains.
when its bumpy I usually notice it shrink few days after

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Some say pumping alone doesnt give girth, only temporarily.

Create a girth only routine.The is a thread here " trouble gaining girth, check this routine ".Check it.I gained girth after I upped the intensity.Did Ulis, Horse Squeezes, Slow squash jelqs and strong grip jelqs with arouns 80-90%.But I was well conditioned.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

My pumping regemin consisted of twenty minutes at 5 hg twice a day. I then added a 45 minute session at 4 hg plus I added pulse pumping to my routines.

After an additional three years or so or so I had increased my girth by over an inch.

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

but how do I know when to take a break?
and what do you mean by increase intensity?
more vacuum? or what I don't get it lol

[megastan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close megastan]

ok I need help with girth
I must be missing something because after more than a year im only gaining length

what is the sure way routine to gain girth? im at 7.75 right now and 5.25 girth
started at 6.00 over a year ago with same girth
maybe gained less than 1/4 in girth this whole time not sure why

[Norwaydude Senior Member Member of the Month Oct. 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close Norwaydude]

ok I need help with girth
I must be missing something because after more than a year im only gaining length

what is the sure way routine to gain girth? im at 7.75 right now and 5.25 girth
started at 6.00 over a year ago with same girth
maybe gained less than 1/4 in girth this whole time not sure why

Same here, i will keep an eye on this thread. Good luck

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Pumping rarely gives permanent gains.I suggest to avoid it for now and to switch to manual exercises.Maybe you need to up the intensity.Add Ulis, Horse Squeezes, Slow Squash Jelqs.

Hard strong jelqing with 90-100 erection.Be careful and proceed slowly into those exercises, you may need to up the intensity, but you need to be sure you can handle the intensity and you are well conditioned.

I didnt gain girth for the first year too, I gained only after I upped the intensity.I remember I started to gain first in a routine similar to this
5 x 1 min Ulis
5 x 45s Horse Squeezes
5x 1 min Slow Squash Jelqs

Hard strong almost erect jelqing also helped me a lot.

I am still not sure if I gained on a routine of 1 on 2 off, or 1 on 1 off, or doing it everyday, keeping my member in a constant engorgement state.But no doubt, keep doing what you are doing a.k.a pumping and you will continue to not gain.Ditch it, you need pressure from the inside-out.