Thick 'cord' and no gains; share your experiences and advice

[Cord.is.Killing.me Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cord.is.Killing.me]

I think you need to spend more time per day stretching and fewer days per week. I would start by resting and then doing a shock routine followed by more rest. I have an easy time gaining girth and a hard time gaining length. So length hasn't been easy for me either. Don't worry about your cord so much though. The reason you have a cord is likely because of the upward curvature in your penis. Stretching the cord will probably just straighten out your penis. The upward curve is good for targetting the g-spot and AFE zone in face to face sex positions. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

I don't remember mentioning an upwards curve - how do you know? Is this synonymous with 'cordedness'?
Yes, I have a high degree of upwards curve like a banana - and I HATE it, I would much prefer it to be straight.

Just make sure you are doing more of your stretches upwards, to the side and outwards and never downwards.

Oh really? Please elaborate on why? I have been doing almost all downward stretches. Upward stretches are so difficult - my penis just slips out of my hand and outward stretches are very hard on my shoulders and hands too (my penis is thicker in the body / middle and less thick at the head or behind the head, it seems to make a difference when soft too)

Another thing I like to do is put my wrist against my pubic bone and stretch my penis around my wrist, so that it's curved upwards just like it is when it's erect.

Take the next 3-4 days off from PE and then do a shock routine. Make sure you aren't sore on the day you do this. I would spend about 60-90 minutes doing PE, but go easy on yourself. Follow up the routine with another few days off.

OK, so you are saying take a break and then do 2-3 x a week HARD routines? How much stretch time?

Do all of these exercises in order without any break in between for 5 minutes each basic stretches, JAIs, jelqing, ulis. Take a 5-10 minute heating break and repeat the same set 2 or 3 more times.
After this take a 5-10 minute break of more heating and then edge for at least 20 minutes. Go for as long as you can easily maintain an erection. Aim for the longest edging sessions that you normally have now. 45-60 minutes would be great. Try to have as many dry orgasms as you can before you blow your load.

The thing is I have done this type of routine before, many times, and gained nothing - that is why I switched up to stretches everyday, but still nothing.

[JJ8 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JJ8]

I believe I am in the same boat as you. I just created a similar thread before stumbling across yours.

Here is what I had to say....

Hi,

I'm new here and this is my first post but I think a very important one!

I have been doing pe religiously for a couple of months now and not had any length gains (not that I really expected to so early). But I have done a large amount of research on all pe forums and have come to the conclusion that I may not be able to ever gain length with my penis.

My penis has a slight curve to the left-which as I have researched is due to tunica albuginea on the left of my penis being tougher/more fibrous. So when I get an erection my right corpora cavernosa can expand more then on the left. The right side of my penis bulges out slightly compared to the quite straight line on the left-which makes me penis look more curved then it actually is. It is a very slight curve of 10^o or so. This is known as Peyronie's disease in more severe cases I believe.

When I flaccid stretch my penis the left had side is very solid and tight to touch-as if there was a thick cord was running down that side. Where as the right hand side is softer to touch and feels like it could be stretched a lot further if only the left hand side was not so tight.

So this is my dilemma! Do any of you have this problem and still have received length gains?

All that I can imagine happening is my right side of my penis just growing in girth and maybe getting more of a curve as the left side can't be stretched. Because if my research is correct this hard cord on the left had side of my penis which induces the curvature when erect is due to a connective tissue disorder involving the growth of fibrous plaques-a bit like scar tissue-which can't ever be stretched/altered.
Wikipedia Peyronies disease Peyronie's disease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found this on Thunders Place-but it held no answers to whether anyone has still made gains.

'For the benefit of those men who were ignorant like me.. it appears that when most men stretch out their flaccid penis with their hand the entire penis stretches out with the same degree of 'give', but for the rest of us there is a part that feels tighter than the rest of the penis - so that means when we try to stretch it part of it will be soft and not at it's limit, but another part will be taught and as far as it can go. If this includes you - the reader - I feel your pain, but I am here to seek answers with you.

The whole premise of PE being that the penis is like a balloon that we fill with more blood than usual to stretch it internally or break it down a little and then rebuild a little each time to 'grow'. Well, I know some men this works for, but it SEEMS to me at least, that if you have this so called cord then that analogy is OUT. No matter how much you put in the 'balloon', if the cord is restricting length then it won't get any longer.'

So please just let me know if you have a similar penis (with a slight curve and fell a 'cord' on one side when stretched flaccid) and whether you have made gains.

After all this research I feel very disheartened that I may never be suitable for pe. and only get girth gains (on one side of my penis)-I don't really need girth but just a little bit of length.

Thank you in advance for all your wisdom. I look forward to being part of your community

[Cord.is.Killing.me Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cord.is.Killing.me]

Hi JJ8,

hopefully more men will respond to this thread and all of our questions will gain some answers. I am fully expecting others to reply to your question as well, but personally the thick cord like feeling is mostly at the top - evenly for me. My penis is not fully symmetrical, one side is more rounded than the other and it curves up (I hate it - I wish it was straight and even).

I do not know too much about peyrones or plaques - sometimes I wonder if PE itself may bring about a degree of this itself in some men and thus toughen the tissues and render them impossible to stretch, after all, just as some men may grow their penis others might just toughen up the tissue without gaining any size at all (I think I have this also as it feels quite hard throughout even when soft)

How has your experience been with peyrones? How did it come about? What have you discovered about it? Your options? Alternative treatments?

[JJ8 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JJ8]

Well if I do have peyronie's it is not severe at all. I think you are only labelled with peyronie's when you have severe curvature of the penis and it becomes painful to have eretions and keep them. In many cases it will be too curved to even preform sex. I have no such issues and at a glance would not even realise there is a curve in it.
Most people think slight penis curvature (left or right) comes about due to how you masterbate when you are younger. I doubt this is totally true but may encourage it when you are developing.

For me it is like-imagine a ballon with a strip of sticky tape down one side before it is blown up. When it is blown up it is unable to stretch where the tape is so will become slightly curved. From my research I believe that this hardened tunica will never be able to be worked on and stretched. So basically the end of the road for pe...which is as you can guess very upsetting

[DryJelq Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DryJelq]

I don't remember mentioning an upwards curve - how do you know? Is this synonymous with 'cordedness'?
Yes, I have a high degree of upwards curve like a banana - and I HATE it, I would much prefer it to be straight.



Oh really? Please elaborate on why? I have been doing almost all downward stretches. Upward stretches are so difficult - my penis just slips out of my hand and outward stretches are very hard on my shoulders and hands too (my penis is thicker in the body / middle and less thick at the head or behind the head, it seems to make a difference when soft too)


OK, so you are saying take a break and then do 2-3 x a week HARD routines? How much stretch time?



The thing is I have done this type of routine before, many times, and gained nothing - that is why I switched up to stretches everyday, but still nothing.

There is a thread somewhere on the forum describing LOT or loss of tug. Essentially when you pull down all the force is being put on your ligaments rather than your tunica. You want to be stretching your tunica and the best way to do this for you is to stretch in directions where you have tug.

The corded feeling is from stretching a flaccid curved penis. Half of the tunica is taut while the other half isn't taut. So you feel soft spongeyness and then a tight cord. I have a lot of cordedness at the base, where my penis is curved. But I don't have that near the head where my penis is straighter.

You've been doing PE a very long time. It's time to do a shock routine. Use a lot of heat. Measure your BPFSL or BPEL and EG during the set to check for how much workout pump you have. Generally an 1/8" is a good amount for a regular workout that you'd do 2-3 times a week. For a shock routine you'll want to get closer to 1/4", but absolutely no more than that.

Don't use force excessively and don't force your dick to get longer or thicker. If your dick isn't responsive to the workout after 2 sets, then you need more rest or maybe you just need to do another set. I like to measure before, during, and after my workout just to see how things are going. Generally what I see is the following: I get my pre-PE measurements, then during the workout, my swells up and is about 1/8" thicker and 1/8" longer. Post-PE about 30 minutes after, my dick is about 1/16" thicker and longer and then a couple hours later has returned to normal or may turtle slightly if I over did it.

I'm definitely capable of making lots of gains. But keeping them is another story. I'm not very consistant and I overwork myself too often and often lose what I gained.

Another thing you might want to try that didn't work tremendously for me is bundled stretches. All of my length gains came a couple months ago. Somehow I measured 7 3/8" BPFSL, which is about 1/4" longer than I am now. It's my guess that it was after a shock routine and I continued to exercise the next two days thus injuring myself. If I remember correctly I lost all of my EQ after that. It took like 2-3 weeks to return and I lost all my gains after that, so make sure you take a break after your shock routine.

They do work very well though. Just make sure you don't get more pump than 3/16 to 1/4 inches. I'd say for your first shock routine, go lighter. Go for 3/16". 1/4" pump is very, very intense if your dick isn't used to it.

[Cord.is.Killing.me Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cord.is.Killing.me]

Well if I do have peyronie's it is not severe at all. I think you are only labelled with peyronie's when you have severe curvature of the penis and it becomes painful to have eretions and keep them. In many cases it will be too curved to even preform sex. I have no such issues and at a glance would not even realise there is a curve in it.
Most people think slight penis curvature (left or right) comes about due to how you masterbate when you are younger. I doubt this is totally true but may encourage it when you are developing.

For me it is like-imagine a ballon with a strip of sticky tape down one side before it is blown up. When it is blown up it is unable to stretch where the tape is so will become slightly curved. From my research I believe that this hardened tunica will never be able to be worked on and stretched. So basically the end of the road for pe...which is as you can guess very upsetting

I have no idea, but have you researched how scar tissue might be broken down from intense massages? I think this can work with muscles over time if done correctly, but no idea about other tissues. Hmm

[Cord.is.Killing.me Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cord.is.Killing.me]

There is a thread somewhere on the forum describing LOT or loss of tug. Essentially when you pull down all the force is being put on your ligaments rather than your tunica. You want to be stretching your tunica and the best way to do this for you is to stretch in directions where you have tug.

The corded feeling is from stretching a flaccid curved penis. Half of the tunica is taut while the other half isn't taut. So you feel soft spongeyness and then a tight cord. I have a lot of cordedness at the base, where my penis is curved. But I don't have that near the head where my penis is straighter.

OHHHHHHHH! Really? Is there a poll or something comparing cordedness with curve? That is something (if true) that I never figured! So no more downward stretches for me? Simply straight out and left and right only.. Thank you for that explanation!

You've been doing PE a very long time. It's time to do a shock routine. Use a lot of heat. Measure your BPFSL or BPEL and EG during the set to check for how much workout pump you have. Generally an 1/8" is a good amount for a regular workout that you'd do 2-3 times a week. For a shock routine you'll want to get closer to 1/4", but absolutely no more than that.

Don't use force excessively and don't force your dick to get longer or thicker. If your dick isn't responsive to the workout after 2 sets, then you need more rest or maybe you just need to do another set. I like to measure before, during, and after my workout just to see how things are going. Generally what I see is the following: I get my pre-PE measurements, then during the workout, my swells up and is about 1/8" thicker and 1/8" longer. Post-PE about 30 minutes after, my dick is about 1/16" thicker and longer and then a couple hours later has returned to normal or may turtle slightly if I over did it.

I'm definitely capable of making lots of gains. But keeping them is another story. I'm not very consistant and I overwork myself too often and often lose what I gained.

Another thing you might want to try that didn't work tremendously for me is bundled stretches. All of my length gains came a couple months ago. Somehow I measured 7 3/8" BPFSL, which is about 1/4" longer than I am now. It's my guess that it was after a shock routine and I continued to exercise the next two days thus injuring myself. If I remember correctly I lost all of my EQ after that. It took like 2-3 weeks to return and I lost all my gains after that, so make sure you take a break after your shock routine.

They do work very well though. Just make sure you don't get more pump than 3/16 to 1/4 inches. I'd say for your first shock routine, go lighter. Go for 3/16". 1/4" pump is very, very intense if your dick isn't used to it.

I see, well at least you have the potential there, how would you 'cement' your gains? Do you think you just went too far when you should have backed off? Forcing rather than encouraging gains?

Now, as far as gaining 1/4" or 1/8" in a pe workout? lmfao, that kind of thing doesn't happen with me, I can see it is more 'full' but I jam the ruler into the bone and it is the same as before. It just doesn't get bigger, the cord is so damned strong and tight.

I have left it alone for a while now, a week or more (no stretches), the burst blood vessels from the pressure of the stretches are still evident so I will just leave it whilst I think and learn more about this.

I wanted to discuss some other things but they escape me at this moment, I will be thinking about this.

[Mc Dong Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mc Dong]

What does BIG AL say about this "cord". How does he recommend stretching it?

MD

[Twister1 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Twister1]

Whats happened ? I too feel that cord and wanted to ask did someone find any decision or something :?

[Trackle Member Find all posts View Profile Close Trackle]

I believe I have this problem as well, does not seem to be too much information on it. I have not been doing PE long enough to have found any ways around this so it would be nice if some one with experience could throw in their two cents. If there is anything I can do to help get to the bottom of this let me know.

I have noticed that the left side is much more developed in size nearer the head then the right side, is this a symptom of this cord or something completely unrelated?

[Hanma Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hanma]

I can relate to this thread to a large extent.

Is it possible for someone to post a pic of their cord to see if it's the same thing OP was talking about?

I have a chord (or a really think vein) towards the end of my penis on the right. Is that why my penis curves to the left? It curves a bit upward as well.

[CaptainUnderpants Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CaptainUnderpants]

Cord.Is.Killing.Me, You referenced hanging, but said that you weren't able to do it? This might be your answer. I say this because my penis may be like yours, it feels like there is a steel cable in the middle. When I pull on my penis to measure the flaccid stretch length, it hits the limit of its length with very definite and positive stop. Much like if I were stretching out a cable.

After 45 days of manual PE, I did gain better flaccid hang, gained girth, but absolutely no length. I came to the conclusion that only hanging would provide the continual and signifcant stress for me to gain length. And so far after 60 days of hangning I have gained 3/8" in length. I have read that some people have 1, 2 or 3 layers of tunica. Whatever my penis is made of, it is strong and requires more than just manual PE.

Do you have a very high EQ? I think this can be a symptom of a rigid tunica. Just thinking out loud?

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

A vein shouldn't limit your gains in anyway

[Twister1 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Twister1]

Its not a vein thats for sure , its like a cable in the middle in the penis (inside) and its going from the head to the inside of the body , when i stretch and put a finger in the base of my penis i can feel it , its attacht with the rest of the body .

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

What do doctors say about that