The true mechanics of growth and the correct thinking for growth.

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I really don t think so... because we are having a lot of uncut guys without gains.
Skin is not able to be a limiting factor of growth

Think about it then that means there penis grew to its full potential. So gaining from stretching btc and other ligament type stretches wouldn’t really do them justice. Unless there’s another factor I’m not counting for. From my hypothesis people with high erection angles don’t have a lot of shaft skin and have tighter ligaments. And people with lower hanging erections have more flexibility and skin for there penis to come out so gaining from traditional suspensory ligament stretches wouldn’t work. And then even with the guys gaining from from suspensory stretches are just stretching there scrotum skin onto the shaft, at least from what is happening to me. Then even with the scrotum skin coming up on the shaft, if you don’t do testicle jelques or foreskin restoration it will have effects on flaccid girth, and create a hour glass like effect. Also creating turkey neck on the penis.

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IMO, few- if any come close to their true potential. Here's an example of what's "possible"- even in a very small span of time: Megalophallus

NOTE- The above is not meant to be duplicated precisely- only understood as an example!

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

...also very few cases where it actually happens that the whole penis uniformly expands that way. Most are very unfortunate cases.

Vaso-occlusive crisis
The vaso-occlusive crisis is caused by sickle-shaped red blood cells that obstruct capillaries and restrict blood flow to an organ, resulting in ischaemia, pain, necrosis, and often organ damage.

But good examples on what is possible.. plastic deformation if done perfectly hitting the point(which then would move from the previous point) beyond elasticity and well before a split/cut avoiding chronic inflammation.
but almost impossible to hit as that point is moving daily especially after it was hit.
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I agree skin is very expansive. It moves up the shaft in some guys, me too, cause the point of biggest stretch is at the base with extenders etc. and pulls it forwardd.

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IMO, few- if any come close to their true potential. Here's an example of what's "possible"- even in a very small span of time: Megalophallus

NOTE- The above is not meant to be duplicated precisely- only understood as an example!

Lucky bastards

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Lucky bastards

Megalophallus a very rare thing, as most men who suffer from prolonged priapism ordinarily require medical attention and unpleasant procedures.
What's curious about the studies is how the reports state these men are left with fully functional penises after such dramatic expansion!

[vamaci Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2020 Find all posts View Profile Close vamaci]

Great post Teo. I have noticed this as well.

When I take things slow & focus on doing my exercises right, my dick feels thick and plump afterwards.

When I rush or go too high intensity, it turtles and hurts my gains.

Heat is key. Watching PIs is key.

I see a lot of people dismissing your points just because they're not 100% "science" based. I think it's ridiculous.

We can be our own science experiment.

Tangible results and testing things out on yourself (for a long enough period of time) can be better than science.

If it works, it works.

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Well I finally got an hour to read through this thread that I missed out on. I tend to agree 100% with what @MadYogi and @BundleUp are saying so I don't need to repeat it.

Personally, the only reliable way I've been able to measure progress is with the pre/post BPFSL measurements. My EL seems to vacillate up to a half inch based on how 'randy' I am at the given time so I don't even think EL is a reliable measurement for progress. I think this is largely why some new practitioners claim inches of gains when they start; because they are just significantly improving their EQ. I personally think more emphasis should be placed on flaccid stretch length to track gains than erect measurements.

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Thanks man

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

Great post Teo. I have noticed this as well.

When I take things slow & focus on doing my exercises right, my dick feels thick and plump afterwards.

When I rush or go too high intensity, it turtles and hurts my gains.

Heat is key. Watching PIs is key.

I see a lot of people dismissing your points just because they're not 100% "science" based. I think it's ridiculous.

We can be our own science experiment.

Tangible results and testing things out on yourself (for a long enough period of time) can be better than science.

If it works, it works.

There is no science behind PE.
Its all an experiment.

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Well I finally got an hour to read through this thread that I missed out on. I tend to agree 100% with what

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BundleUp are saying so I don't need to repeat it.

Personally, the only reliable way I've been able to measure progress is with the pre/post BPFSL measurements. My EL seems to vacillate up to a half inch based on how 'randy' I am at the given time so I don't even think EL is a reliable measurement for progress. I think this is largely why some new practitioners claim inches of gains when they start; because they are just significantly improving their EQ. I personally think more emphasis should be placed on flaccid stretch length to track gains than erect measurements.

It just depends on what your goals are, some want a better hanging flaccid.

My goals are a bigger functioning poon slayer so for me it's all about erect gains.

People should be measuring both erect and flaccid

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Science is the application of knowledge in a methodological manner. ALL training is a form of experimentation as we apply data and actions to attempt to achieve a desired result.

Too often, "science" gets conflated with theories, consensus opinion, and even propaganda and a cult-based mindset based on the thoughts and expressions of celebrity-type entities. This definition can be observed when the word takes on the dreaded capital "S".

Few places where this causes a form of paralysis than male enhancement. The irony of this is anyone with a penis can experiment in male enhancement training for themselves.

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Few places where this causes a form of paralysis than male enhancement. The irony of this is anyone with a penis can experiment in male enhancement training for themselves.

And that s why PE should be happening with gentle forces,reasonable volume and rest days.
Not only its safer but more profitable too.

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I've read several definitions of "science", and it's definition seems to be changing all the time. Science as I understand it should be something that is repeatable. You drop a bar of Ivory soap in a sink of water and it's going to float every time. IMO there's nothing scientific about PE. If there was, anyone could do X,Y& Z and duplicate the results, but we all know that's not true.
Personally "gentle forces" did nothing for me.

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And that s why PE should be happening with gentle forces,reasonable volume and rest days.
Not only its safer but more profitable too.

Yes ALWAYS err on the side of caution if you're new to training or testing a new method. You can always add a bit more force or volume in future sessions.

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Was wondering if Pegasus was still HANGING AROUND .... Don't login a lot these days but cannot forget that GUY