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  • #61
    You will likely see the big ones more because the package holders are not bashful.

    Think about it...the shower, locker room, public urinal, porn...do I need to continue?????

    If all the small dick fella's start showing off then I have moved off the earth to another world!

    Just keep your eyes off the cocks and PE your own to maximum size! Then you will join the minority!
    Commit, start your routine, don't rush, and increase your length, girth, and ultimately confidence in the process. Key: Don't measure everyday and only measure 1X per month.
    Shortdog 2019

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    • #62
      My friends are in better shape than average? I hate to insult them, because they're very nice human beings, but to suggest that they are in better shape than average is nonsensical. The general proposition makes no sense either, since all sorts of people go to parties - although to some extent it depends on what your definition of a party is.

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      Be more confident than average since they are out socializing...
      Excuse me? Are you suggesting that the average person is not confident enough to socialise? This is absurd.
      I'm talking about small correlations here. Generally people who go out and socialize care more about their appearance than people that stay home(dressing up, working out). Therefore they have lower body fat and larger NBPEL's on average.

      The second point is more cloudy but..ON AVERAGE a bigger penis = more confidence = more socializing.

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      • #63
        I think the average must be about 9 inches because i see so many of you tell me that huge ones are every where. Must be true. I know there is one in Omaha, Souix City, Des Moines, Wichita, Boise, Billings and Seattle but the biggest average in the world is in Detroit because everybody knows that theory about color right.
        If your hanging around the 5 or 6 inch club hang your self now, if your in the 7 inch club end it quicker, rat poison is the way to go and if your over that dont getto confident because I think like 1 in 4 are bigger than you. Eat a 45 auto mag because yor not big, surely not after reading this thread.
        I dated a girl, she was a whore and told me that even though I was 6 inches before PE I was the smallest pathetic little teeney weeney she ever had, every one ele was at least 9 inches and one was over 17 and his girth was as big as my thigh!
        Now for every one that thinks there are alot of dicks over 8, good on ya but the fact is for every one of those there are a thousand under 6.
        have fun talking about other big dcks and remember to just abuse the hell out of the multi quote button because it just makes ya look like a rocket scientist people.
        I am going to pull my dick of with pair of vise grips now, peace
        Last edited by BigO; 07-29-2011, 09:17 PM.
        Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before

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        • #64
          I'm bored ... anyone know where I can get an escort in Sydney?
          Future owner of a glorious cock.

          I'll call it, the thunder dragon.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by newb4321 View Post
            ..Generally people who go out and socialize care more about their appearance than people that stay home(dressing up, working out). Therefore they have lower body fat and larger NBPEL's on average...
            The vast majority of the world's population socialise at some point in their lives. There is no evidence to support your assertion that people who socialize have less body fat than people who don't. As I say, it sounds like an absurd proposition to me.

            The second point is more cloudy but..ON AVERAGE a bigger penis = more confidence = more socializing.
            So people with big penises are also more likely to socialise? Do you really not see how ridiculous this sounds?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by 1471988 View Post
              LOL what credible evidence??...
              LOL.

              Lifestyles Condoms study, 5.8" BPEL; Study published in the Sept 1996 edition of the Journal of Urology, 5.06 BPEL"; Study published in the December 2000 edition of the International Journal of Impotence Research, 5.35" BPEL; Study conduucted by the University Of Florence Depts of Urology and Experimantal Pathology and published in the February 2001 edition of European Urology, 5" BPEL. There are many more.

              And that would make a minimum of 75% of PEers starting stats above average to well above average.
              If those stats are true and/or correctly measured. Even if they are, members of a PE site are hardly typical of the general population, so your figures don't disprove anything.
              Last edited by drabman; 07-29-2011, 10:13 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by drabman View Post
                So people with big penises are also more likely to socialise? Do you really not see how ridiculous this sounds?
                I don't think its as ridiculous as it sounds. You aren't willing to concede there might be a tiny bit of correlation maybe? Do you think that a guy with a 2 inch penis is just as likely to be a social butterfly as a guy with a 9 inch penis with everything else being equal?

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                • #68
                  Lifestyles Condoms study, 5.8" BPEL; Study published in the Sept 1996 edition of the Journal of Urology, 5.06 BPEL"; Study published in the December 2000 edition of the International Journal of Impotence Research, 5.35" BPEL; Study conduucted by the University Of Florence Depts of Urology and Experimantal Pathology and published in the February 2001 edition of European Urology, 5" BPEL. There are many more.
                  Firstly the Lifestyles condoms study did not say in their actual release that it was BP and why would a condom manufacture measure BP? They done the research to be able to get better fitting condoms and doing it BP would ruin it.

                  5.06" BPEL?? That's crazy!!! I have a BPEL of 5" and I know that this is not close to the average and not from porn as many people here suggest. That would mean micro penises that are 3.5"NBPEL and under would be as common as 6.5"NBPEL+ to be able to get an average of 5.06"BPEL. And it is widely known that micro penises are extremely rare.

                  Where would I find the info from the other studies?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by newb4321 View Post
                    I don't think its as ridiculous as it sounds. You aren't willing to concede there might be a tiny bit of correlation maybe?..
                    No. In the first place there is no evidence for it. Moreover, it sounds ridiculous to me.

                    Do you think that a guy with a 2 inch penis is just as likely to be a social butterfly as a guy with a 9 inch penis with everything else being equal?
                    I don't concede that the size of someone's penis is the determining factor in the extent of their socialisation. There are many, varied and complex reasons why one person is a social butterfly and another is not. Would an agoraphobic be less severely afflicted if he had a big penis? Anyway, both of your examples are extremes that are very rare indeed - a 9" penis is extraordinarily rare.

                    In any case, your argument was a different one - you were suggesting that men with large penises are more likely to go out than men with average penises. This implies that men with average penises (the overwhelming majority) are somehow reluctant to socialise because they have some degree of anxiety about the size of their genitals. I don't mean to be rude, but I find this argument too absurd for words.
                    Last edited by drabman; 07-29-2011, 07:20 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by 1471988 View Post
                      Firstly the Lifestyles condoms study did not say in their actual release that it was BP and why would a condom manufacture measure BP? They done the research to be able to get better fitting condoms and doing it BP would ruin it...
                      Because BPEL is the only way of getting a standardised, definitive measurement. Fat pad varies both from individual to individual and over the lifetime of each individual. However I concede that they didn't explicitly state their measurement as BPEL (although from the description of their methodology that I have seen reported, it could possibly be interpreted in that way).

                      Accordingly I shall withdraw the Lifestyles data and substitute another study from the Department of Urology at the Tel aviv-Sourasky University conducted in 2000, which found an average BPEL of 5.35". Or perhaps I should substitute the 1942 survey by Schoenfeld and Beeble, which found an average (stretched) BP length of 5.17"; or the 1994 Brazilian survey by da Ros, et al, which found an average of 5.71"; or the German survey by Schneider et al, which concluded the average was 5.58".

                      As I say there are many more; from China, Korea, India - you name it. They ALL come up with figures somewhere around 5.5" BPEL. Funny that.

                      5.06" BPEL?? That's crazy!!! I have a BPEL of 5"
                      5" BPEL is only half an inch away from the figure given by most surveys. Hardly a "crazy" or an earth-shattering difference. Certainly less crazy than the claims that the average is 6" NBPEL that you find here and elsewhere on the internet.

                      ...I know that this is not close to the average and not from porn as many people here suggest...
                      How do you know? From what?

                      Please don't respond, "guys I and/or my girlfriend has f***ed" or "guys I've seen in changing rooms/bathhouses/swinging parties" or else I think I may well lose the will to live.

                      That would mean micro penises that are 3.5"NBPEL and under would be as common as 6.5"NBPEL+ to be able to get an average of 5.06"BPEL....
                      First of all micropenises are not 3.5" NBPEL. They are 2.5 standard deviations below the mean. Standard deviation in most surveys is around 0.8. This makes a micropenis more like 3-3.5" BONE-PRESSED or thereabouts. 2.5 standard deviations above the mean for most surveys is around 7.5-8" BPEL, which is also uncommon, unless you believe everything you read on the internet.

                      Secondly you cannot extrapolate in the way you have done. You would need to know what the standard deviation of the relevant survey was - so your conclusion is flawed on two counts.

                      Where would I find the info from the other studies?
                      Here's the abstract from the Italian Survey

                      http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB...1159/000052434

                      And from the Californian study.

                      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8709382
                      Last edited by drabman; 07-29-2011, 08:15 PM.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by newb4321 View Post
                        I'm talking about small correlations here. Generally people who go out and socialize care more about their appearance than people that stay home(dressing up, working out). Therefore they have lower body fat and larger NBPEL's on average.

                        The second point is more cloudy but..ON AVERAGE a bigger penis = more confidence = more socializing.
                        silly argument

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                        • #72
                          I never realized how many people carried rulers around with them. Maybe cock measuring should become an Olympic sport. Toughest category would be speed of measuring in button-fly jeans.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by hsarge View Post
                            I never realized how many people carried rulers around with them. Maybe cock measuring should become an Olympic sport. Toughest category would be speed of measuring in button-fly jeans.
                            No, no, no. You don't get it.

                            They can judge EXACTLY how big a guy is just by looking at him. They can tell... They know.

                            However this quasi-superpower is surpassed by their ability to accurately predict a man's erect size based on his flaccid size - something no doctor, antropolgist or scientist has ever been able to do. Hence all the posters who saw a "monster-hung" guy in the shower and could accurately predict that his penis must have been at least 9-10" when erect. Of course the gaping flaw in this argument is that some penises barely grow at all, so even if the remarkable claims they make about observed flaccid size are true, that does not mean these individuals would sport unfeasibly enormous erections when party time arrived.
                            Last edited by drabman; 07-29-2011, 08:29 PM.

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                            • #74
                              This is really becoming one of those threads, do we need to discuss how everybody knows the names and dates of every dick survey that has ever been done. The average ding dong is around(I said around, not exactly) 5 and 1/2 to 6 inches. Now can we all just get back to worrying about our own goo shooting custard cannons or can we find more ways to discuss who knows more about dick size, odds are your all wrong about one thing or another on the subject of the size of the average love wand.
                              Going an inch and 1/2 deeper than before

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by drabman View Post
                                No. In the first place there is no evidence for it. Moreover, it sounds ridiculous to me.



                                I don't concede that the size of someone's penis is the determining factor in the extent of their socialisation. There are many, varied and complex reasons why one person is a social butterfly and another is not. Would an agoraphobic be less severely afflicted if he had a big penis? Anyway, both of your examples are extremes that are very rare indeed - a 9" penis is extraordinarily rare.

                                In any case, your argument was a different one - you were suggesting that men with large penises are more likely to go out than men with average penises. This implies that men with average penises (the overwhelming majority) are somehow reluctant to socialise because they have some degree of anxiety about the size of their genitals. I don't mean to be rude, but I find this argument too absurd for words.
                                This really is a silly argument. All I was trying to do was show that the group wasn't a true random sample. I proposed a hypothesis to show how there might be a slight difference. The difference might be .00001% or 1% or 2%. I just don't want my words to be twisted so I'll try to be clear here.

                                We often hear about men with small penises who are afraid to be in social situations with women. I doubt the same percentage of men with large penises have this problem. Can we agree on that?

                                If parties contain fewer percentages of micropenises(than a random sampling of men), then this raises its overall average. Where am I going wrong here?

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