New Pill - legit?

[newb4321 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close newb4321]

No one here is trying to shit on chem PE, so before you try to claim we are, please read the thread...or are scam penis pills considered chem PE? If so, then we are trying to shit on it.

Oh I completely agree that this is a scam. You could buy all of these ingredients for a tenth of the price and all they do is improve EQ. Millions of people have tried similar things with zero results. I even said its the same old crap and to save your money.

I just think its close minded to say that something doesn't work before even knowing what it is.

Personally, I know that DHT helped me grow. I started puberty late, I felt like I had low testosterone from bad eating habits, lack of sleep, and SSRI's. I gained half an inch in a month. I now realize that it was just helping me reach the genetic potential that I was supposed to reach. I tried DHT again 6 months later and didn't gain anything, but its still half an inch I wouldn't have otherwise.

[DemOne Banned Find all posts View Profile Close DemOne]

Oh I completely agree that this is a scam. You could buy all of these ingredients for a tenth of the price and all they do is improve EQ. Millions of people have tried similar things with zero results. I even said its the same old crap and to save your money.

I just think its close minded to say that something doesn't work before even knowing what it is.

Personally, I know that DHT helped me grow. I started puberty late, I felt like I had low testosterone from bad eating habits, lack of sleep, and SSRI's. I gained half an inch in a month. I now realize that it was just helping me reach the genetic potential that I was supposed to reach. I tried DHT again 6 months later and didn't gain anything, but its still half an inch I wouldn't have otherwise.

I hope you're not referring to me with that one.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Personally, I know that DHT helped me grow. I started puberty late, I felt like I had low testosterone from bad eating habits, lack of sleep, and SSRI's. I gained half an inch in a month. I now realize that it was just helping me reach the genetic potential that I was supposed to reach. I tried DHT again 6 months later and didn't gain anything, but its still half an inch I wouldn't have otherwise.

Sounds like you were suffering from secondary hypogonadism (not enough testosterone produced during puberty) which, as far as I have read, is the only time increasing testosterone will increase the size of the penis. However, as you stated, it will not increase the size of your penis beyond its genetic potential.

As far as the web site mentioned by the op is concerned, any web site that acknowledges the importance of Aaron Kramer's "Exercising the Penis" can't be all bad.

[Closed039 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed039]

Sounds like you were suffering from secondary hypogonadism (not enough testosterone produced during puberty) which, as far as I have read, is the only time increasing testosterone will increase the size of the penis. However, as you stated, it will not increase the size of your penis beyond its genetic potential.

As far as the web site mentioned by the op is concerned, any web site that acknowledges the importance of Aaron Kramer's Exercising the Penis can't be all bad.

I don't know man, it swings both ways. Unless Aaron recognizes them, then their acknowledgement of his book is irrelevant. It would be like me claiming to have a pill that will get you into good shape. All you have to do, I say, is take my pill in addition to running 5 miles per day and eating a perfect diet.
The problem is validating what use my pill actually has in relation to getting an individual into good shape because we know that running and eating will probably do so on their own. Similarly, the mere mention of Aaron's book and the insistence that we perform PE in conjunction with consuming the pill is not swaying me...we can't determine what value the pill has.

[closeed258 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closeed258]

What is the website where these pills were? I want to check out the ingredients to see what is meant to be special about them.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Gee my 12 year old gained three iches in the last 6 months. It couldn't be his genetics;must be the dht I gave him.
As for having a closed mind, which you seem to have, don't you think the some of us have been involved with this stuff long enough to know what works and what doesn't? Don't you think we've been to the websites, looked, researched, talked with other members in the know to find out the truth about things? We do all that stuff to , and here's a word you're not going to like, help guys like you. We don't want to see you get hurt, waste money, or anything like that. We volunteer our time and experience to help you. If you prefer to find things out on your own then so be it. No one here will stop you.
You can tell me that dht hepled you grow. Fine but personally your genetics played a much bigger part but believe what you want. Come here, be a member, participate, learn from us and maybe we'll learn something from you who knows. Or you can get on here, agrue, fight, and call people closed minded or whatever you like and not exactly endear yourself to all the good people that come here. Again, the choice is yours.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

What is the website where these pills were? I want to check out the ingredients to see what is meant to be special about them.

They do not reveal the ingredients because they claim a patent is pending.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

The mere mention of Aaron's book and the insistence that we perform PE in conjunction with consuming the pill is not swaying me...we can't determine what value the pill has.

Didn't sway me either. I was not implying the association validated the pill, but rather the acknowledgement of the book by a non PE source is significan and hopefully it will get some non-PE guys interest in legitimate PE exercises and perhaps join the Gym.

[Padawan787 Moderator ReservePEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Padawan787]

Did the list any info on the patent? such as the patent application number?

Curious to see the wording of their application

[closeed258 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closeed258]

They do not reveal the ingredients because they claim a patent is pending.

That's dangerous, how can they people they don't know to take a pill without telling them the ingredients, what if someone had an allergic reaction or it had a bad interaction with other medication they are taking? They must be crazy.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

That's dangerous, how can they people they don't know to take a pill without telling them the ingredients, what if someone had an allergic reaction or it had a bad interaction with other medication they are taking? They must be crazy.

Very good; rep for you!

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

We don't know whats inside tacobell and mcdonalds, other then cats and such...

[DemOne Banned Find all posts View Profile Close DemOne]

They do not reveal the ingredients because they claim a patent is pending.

US Patent Office AppFT search returns in this result for their patent claim.
Results of Search in db for:
"rns labs": 0 applications.

Results of Search in db for:
RNSLabs: 0 applications.

Results of Search in db for:
"penis enlargement program pills": 0 applications.


They're full of shit.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

They're full of shit.

Probably, but not necessarily. We always put patent pending on our new products whether or not the application had been submitted. Patent applications are expensive and time consuming. We would not submit the application unless the product proved successful. Putting the patent pending wording on a new product helps dissuade competitors from submitting a rival application and also puts a "time stamp" on the first use of the special ingredients.

I don't think we need wonder about the success of this product.

[DemOne Banned Find all posts View Profile Close DemOne]

Probably, but not necessarily. We always put patent pending on our new products whether or not the application had been submitted. Patent applications are expensive and time consuming. We would not submit the application unless the product proved successful. Putting the patent pending wording on a new product helps dissuade competitors from submitting a rival application and also puts a "time stamp" on the first use of the special ingredients.

I don't think we need wonder about the success of this product.

Maybe, but the company hasn't even put in for a PPA.