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[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

There is something I don't get though, it seems we men have to seek the pleasure of the women while they must be selfish and seek their own (that is, in intercourse), F***k that lol.
I wonder if one of the main reasons could be that girls experience far more pleasure during sex, and far more intense orgasms.

[jay1993 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jay1993]

There is something I don't get though, it seems we men have to seek the pleasure of the women while they must be selfish and seek their own (that is, in intercourse), F***k that lol.
I wonder if one of the main reasons could be that girls experience far more pleasure during sex, and far more intense orgasms.

That's why I do what feels good for me! Mother nature is very smart though. Usually what feels good for the guy is going to please the girl too... When I put my dick into a chick and pump and pump and pump until I cum, she usually has her orgasm too. If she doesn't I don't lose any sleep over it though. If she tells her friends I didn't get her off, she can tell them how I bottomed out on her when I was doing it doggy style. Long dick. We would have never evolved as a species if sex was only pleasing to one gender. Friction is friction, I go in there with the mindset of pleasing me first. Ironically, if I went in there with the mindset that it was my duty to please her and her right to be pleased, I wouldn't be nearly as confident and assertive and she probably wouldn't orgasm. Women want a man who is confident enough to realize that he deserves pleasure too, and who has the ability to please both parties.

[MrsLooking4more Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close MrsLooking4more]

@Eow I see your point in saying that we are older and different but hell I have been having sex since I was 18. So I been there at you age and guess what? I enjoyed just as much the only thing that has changed is that I am more confident now in getting what I want. As a young woman I did not enjoy sex because my partner did not make sure I enjoyed it, he got his enjoyment without consideration. Once I learned what I was missing from my Mr. I then became more forward as to what I wanted and it was me who pushed to try BDSM and that was in our 20's. So I have been different for 20+ years, I didn't start now.

The women in the Gym are here to give you perspective that will help you improve your performance and to have a small sampling of our thoughts. Use it if it helps you. Don't you want to learn from people with many years of experience? That is what we do here help each other regardless of age. Age here just means we have been doing it longer.

@Vixen65 and DonJelquer Great posts, right on!

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

I always thought if I made it better for her it would end up being better for me, the more she enjoys it the more the inner freak will come out by itself. Besides if she is being pleased by you she will want to please you that much more.

[MrsLooking4more Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close MrsLooking4more]

Right on BigO!

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

I was just thinking that our pleasure mainly comes from pleasing, when they have both pleasures.

[Vixen65 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vixen65]

That's probably because your vagina will not be bottomed out on unless the man has over 8 inches. Women probably can't distinguish lengths unless the man is either bottoming out and/or hitting the cervix, or if he's not long enough to stay in. However, I guarantee that you could easily distinguish between 4- 8 inch GIRTHS! haha. I also assume that a 7-8 inch penis is VISUALLY much more stimulating to you than a 4 incher, right?

Lol - no, most guys will bottom out in me in the right position. Even the guy who was 2-3 inches. He suddenly grew a couple of months into our relationship. My V was adjusted to his smaller size, so the change made him bottom out. He was over the moon - never experienced it before.

Visually it makes no difference. Ref my initial post here - I don't think any penis looks sexy, but looking at the penis gets me thinking of the sex we've had and the sex we will have and that turns me on.

[jay1993 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jay1993]

Lol - no, most guys will bottom out in me in the right position. Even the guy who was 2-3 inches. He suddenly grew a couple of months into our relationship. My V was adjusted to his smaller size, so the change made him bottom out.

That doesn't sound right..

[Vixen65 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vixen65]

Popol5169,

The words of wisdom I got when I was ca 20 was perfect for that age. The guys came easily, and the girls with more difficulty. Most of life I think it still holds true, because we women can come so many times. At my age, however, I'm at or near my sexual peak while my partners often increasingly struggle to get really worked up and/or coming. I still remain adequately selfish to make sure I get plenty, but increasingly I have focus on him to ensure he reaches his climax too. But then, me having had so much fun beforehand usually helps him get there, so win/win.

[Vixen65 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vixen65]

That doesn't sound right..

Whatdayamean?

[jay1993 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jay1993]

Whatdayamean?

anything less than 6 probably can't bottom out. And I didnt think the vagina adjusted to a penis based on length; I thought it could become tighter to accomadate a skinnier dick, but I thought it was pretty static in length. I know it lengthens when aroused, but I didn't know it could shorten to accomodate a shorter dick.

[Vixen65 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vixen65]

@BigO - you've cracked it - spot on.

[Vixen65 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vixen65]

@MrsLooking4More,

Sounds like we had very similar experience in our early sex life. I increasingly suspect there is a "sex freak" inside most women, just waiting to be released.

And thanks for the good feedback.

[Vixen65 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Vixen65]

@jay1993, I read somewhere on this forum that in a normal state the vagina is 4 inches deep - sure it adjusts up/down too. When I "pleasure myself" my middle finger reaches the cervix.

[MrsLooking4more Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close MrsLooking4more]

@jay1993, I read somewhere on this forum that in a normal state the vagina is 4 inches deep - sure it adjusts up/down too. When I "pleasure myself" my middle finger reaches the cervix.

+1 Which is the reason my eyebrows go to my head when the males wax poetic about size.