Guys can you do an experiment for me?

[Holownia Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Holownia]

Put your testicles between your thighs and put your thighs together so that only your penis shaft sticks out - 1. Do you feel as if your penis is being pulled down by the testicles between your thighs? yes or no? 2. Do you feel any discomfort as the result testicles trapped between your thighs (or does it feel natural)? yes or no? Please answer I am curious about your answer guys!

The thing is that when testicles go between my thighs I feel so much pulling down on the upper shaft that it hard to ignore (my urologist said that as the result of PE pubic skin moved onto the upper shaft and fused with scrotum and the result might be discomfort because when the scrotum is pulled down it pulls down the that upper pubic/shaft skin). I made a video describing what I have in mind which is in the description of my photo album below ( it starts with 'pl.zbiornik.com'...) :

https://www.pegym.com/forums/album.php?albumid=3961

[habban Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close habban]

(my urologist said that as the result of PE pubic shin moved onto the upper shaft and fused with scrotum and the result might be discomfort because when the scrotum is pulled down it pulls down the that upper pubic/shaft skin).

This is EXACTLY what i have pointed out all the time.. This is happening when you do PE. My whole area surrounding the penis shaft is kinda transforming in to a new look. And this is why i sometimes think to myself. The only way to gain penis size is by letting your penis get filled with blood up to its potential. This can result in both length & girth gains. But stretching the penis will naturally & passivly stretch on your scrotum skin and pubic skin which will get looser and drop down/stick out of your body more. Which in turn will make your penis measure longer on your ruler as you are starting at the pubic bone as a starting point. It's already stated that by doing PE your shaft will get more hairy further up your shaft, explanation? Probably is the scrotal/pubic skin attaching more and more up along your original shaft skin. Before i even started Penis enlargement i think i had zero exit point. My shaft was directly connected to my body. If i put a ruler on my pubic area my penis base shaft was right in front of the starting zone of the ruler. If i measure now, 9 months later, my starting point of the base shaft is much lower, and between my pubic bone and base shaft there is a "stretched skin zone" which is hairy. Before PE this "stretched skin zone" didn't exist. I don't even think this "stretched skin zone" is insertable in the vagina. It can't be. This is what people call ligament gains i think? Then i would say ligament gains is worthless when it comes to be insertable in the vagina, the only effect it has is that from sight your penis will appear longer. Because the scrotal skin is growing further up the shaft then your pubic skin does.
If you are going to insert your penis in the vagina you will reach your scrotal skin before you can even reach this "stretched skin zone".

To let your pubic skin and scrotal skin untouched and still stretch your penis, wouldn't the stretch to go be like this then? One hand under glans and the other at base, stretch the hands away from each other. This would probably be a correct shaft stretch. You are stretching your shaft and not pulling on anything else other than your shaft. Probably you are pulling on your regular foreskin aswell though. But if the shaft is growing by this stretch it doesn't matter if foreskin does aswell, as you need more foreskin to compensate the new shaft growth.

Anyone here know if this kind of stretch is effective in Penis enlargement? It should be! If not i would kiss penis enlargement goodbye when it comes to stretching for length. I would rather just focusing on keegels and edging to keep my penis filled with blood to its maximum potential and then buy a penis pump or something to see how that works and see if it actually promotes real shaft girth. I'm here looking for a longer and thicker shaft, not an ugly transformed penis. From now on i will ONLY do this shaft stretch for a full month and see what happens along with other exercises that doesn't pull on the pubic skin or scrotal skin. I am expecting to see gains, if i do i will keep going.

I will do this until someone has any logical answer which makes me change my mind. I have heard theorys about if your penis grows your penis borrows skin from pubic area/scrotal. If that's true there should be another exercise or solution which lets your penis build more/new foreskin. The stretch i talked about earlier should be enough as it both stretches foreskin and your penis at the same time. It all depends which grows fastest, skin or penis. Skin should grow faster?

Thank you for listening! Maybe i have some holes in my story and theory. Then gladly tell me so we can come up with a solution and a correct explanation here.

[habban Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close habban]

This probably explains also why base girth is easy attainable with hanging. And why length gains are so easy with this. When you hang you put a lot of pressure on the scrotal and pubic skin. This will make your scrotal skin go further up and probably gets looser. Which makes added skin underneath your base, this will yield in more penis girth mostly at the base to those who don't put away the scrotal skin with their hands when they measure base. I used to mesure without putting away the loosy skin. I gained base girth with this measurement! But when i started to put away the loosy skin, guess what? My base girth actually hadn't changed as much or even anything as i first thought.

[Holownia Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Holownia]

But How to fix my condition? The only logical way seems to be stretching the 'good' shaft skin.

My video which I posted in the OP has been removed due to the 'no dick pics in the open forum' however I don't know how to post a link to the video which will be visible only for forum users any suggesions?

[Holownia Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Holownia]

One hand under glans and the other at base, stretch the hands away from each other. This would probably be a correct shaft stretch. You are stretching your shaft and not pulling on anything else other than your shaft. Probably you are pulling on your regular foreskin aswell though. But if the shaft is growing by this stretch it doesn't matter if foreskin does aswell, as you need more foreskin to compensate the new shaft growth.

My stretching approach was - one hand at the base and the other I roll up my foreskin, grabbed by the glans and then stretched.
NOW - because I was rolling up my foreskin and grabbing by the glans, this stretch did not at all take into consideration skin stretching - which resulted in skin creep up on upper and lower shaft.
It is funny how whole PE community ignores this - this thing is real, and there are no precautions in PE community, warnings or instructions how to avoid this. This is simply crazy. Everybody will end up with deformed dick like I did but no!! Long live bundled stretches which cause pubic skin creep up the shaft. Crazy...

I do not know how to turn this around, now I should cut my dick off and buy myself a new one.

[habban Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close habban]

Exactly. This community tends to ignore what they can't argue against or answer. Sometimes they even get angry just because you have thoughts that seems to threaten the penis enlargement concept. Last time i argued against penis enlargement they lowered my reputation and basically got mad. It's like they want to shut someones opinion just because they don't like it. I did not even have intetions to hurt anyone, i just wanna get logical answers to my questions and someone to change my mindset with facts and logic answers. i think to avoid skin creeps you should do stretches that doesn't pull on the pubic zone or the scrotal skin. When you stretch you have to be sure the only thing that is getting stretched is the penis shaft and the foreskin covering the shaft. NOTHING ELSE! That's the only logical answer to how you should avoid the skin creeps. And you should also look up Testicle Health Massage to cure your turkey neck etc. If stretching "ONLY" the shaft doesn't promote penis length then i'm sorry, you can't correctly lengthening your shaft with only stretches. I will experiment with it this month. To promote penis grow you have to do stamina exercises and girth work. This will lead to both length & girth. If your penis gets girth your foreskin will stretch your regular foreskin automaticly, and you will not get skin creeps. I don't think you should focus on stretching, it's only a shortcut to faster length gains, which basically in my opinion isn't "real" gains, at least not what i consider real gains i can be perfectly proud about. It's just the "ruler" telling you the penis is longer, affected by skin creeps. I'm tired of those skin creeps and i don't want them to get worse. I just want a bigger penis, it is achievable. But i want them to happen in a more healthy way. I know i have made real "shaft" length gains, but they are really small compared to what i can get with "skin creep" gains.

[habban Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close habban]

And to fix your condition Holownia. Just stop pull on your scrotal and pubic skin. When i did that it felt like the skin creep at my base got better and shrink back just a little. Hopefully everything isn't permanent yet and if you stop you will lose the gains (skin creep will go back to normal position). Do Testicle Massage for your sctoal section! I also like to massage on the skin creep at my base aswell, i hope it will get relaxed and go back to normal position. Actually, you know people getting turkey necks on their neck/throat? The cure is to massage it among other things. I hope it works with the skin creeps at your penis aswell. If you want we can add each other somewhere and talk about this further and support each other to find a more healthier way to gain penis size?

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And to fix your condition Holownia. Just stop pull on your scrotal and pubic skin. When i did that it felt like the skin creep at my base got better and shrink back just a little. Hopefully everything isn't permanent yet and if
you stop you will lose the gains (skin creep will go back to normal position). Do Testicle Massage for your sctoal section! I also like to massage on the skin creep at my base aswell, i hope it will get relaxed and go back to normal position. Actually, you know people getting turkey necks on their neck/throat? The cure is to massage it among other things. I hope it works with the skin creeps at your penis aswell. If you want we can add each other somewhere and talk about this further and support each other to find a more healthier way to gain penis size?

Do you have an idea where we could talk ? as of when I will be aviable maby tomorrow evening. I am from Poland so video talk is not an option/ but skype texting yes. Habban have you seen the video which I posted in the OP ?


You say that you hope that skin creep will go back to normal position, I am more pessimistic whether skin creep will go back by itself because when you gain penis length (without simultaneusly stretching/gaining shaft skin length) this NEW penis is covered by that skin creep. It is about the idea that the gained penis length has to be covered by some skin if you do not have any skin it borrows skin from scrotum or pubic area. To get rid of this one might try to stretch only shaft skin I found an exercise in the foreskin restoration forum:

http://www.restoringforeskin.org/pub...gging/method-2

[dmizzle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dmizzle]

I'm not really sure what you guys are talking about. The only thing I have noticed is a little more hair higher on my dick. But I shave anyway, so I don't really care. I don't know what you guys mean by a deformed dick. My dick is just getting bigger and harder, not deformed. I don't really do too many stretches, but I have gained over .5" in length in the first 3 months. My dick has never looked better.

Can you provide a link to a picture of your dick that you are talking about?

[Holownia Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Holownia]

I'm not really sure what you guys are talking about. The only thing I have noticed is a little more hair higher on my dick. But I shave anyway, so I don't really care. I don't know what you guys mean by a deformed dick. My dick is just getting bigger and harder, not deformed. I don't really do too many stretches, but I have gained over .5" in length in the first 3 months. My dick has never looked better.

Can you provide a link to a picture of your dick that you are talking about?

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