Dry Orgasm

[Panther Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Panther]

I read a lot of posts about having a dry orgasm by clamping down on the PC muscle (kegel). Has/does anybody have MMO by having a totally relaxed PC muscle?

I'm working on doing it that way. The best dry orgasm I've had was being totally relaxed. However, I haven't been able to repeat the experience. Came close the other night. I've done it via kegel and/or pressing on the perineum but that's not really as satisfying to me.

I want the feeling of an orgasm but am not all that interested in cumming everyday. Lately I find that I only want sex ever other day and am thinking that if I can master MMO I can limit my cumming and hold onto some of my sexual tension. This may sound a little weird to some of you but I'm not getting any pleasure out of wacking off. I used to wack off frequently, before my current gf. Now I have sex almost every day and don't take care of myself anymore. Kinda miss that. Thinking its because I cum so often.

Any thoughts or helpful hints?

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I do not ejaculate every session, though I do most of the time. That is ok and you can retain desire for more sessions that way.
Many guys have increased their stamina by keeping a realaxed pc,but I don't know of any that are mmo.

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I find that that working to relax my PC causes me to go quicker. Mostly because I have always kept my PC tight - even during the day. I started to notice this as I'm working to relax more. I find I have better stamina when I make sex a whole body experience. In other words I move the good feelings all around my body, particularly in my chest. Feels great that way and I can last way longer.

If I focus only on the package game over much faster. I don't subscribe to thinking about other stuff to last longer. That just takes away from the fun. If I can't get to MMO with complete relaxation I'll try the other way.

Just experimenting with different feelings is awesome. Get to feel sex in ways I've never had before.

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Hey it's good to have you here and if you find another mmo method, power to you. I often wish we could have someone here who could translate the mystic tradition. So far as I understand they are doing similar to us ,but they talk such gibber it is hard to know.

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I tried for years to figure out the mystic stuff. I don't remember much of the specifics, frankly. As far as I could ever tell, much of it equates "Energy" with ejaculation. There is a lot of talk about "focus" and "refocus" using various terms. A great deal of it makes sense if you try to substitute "kegel" in when they start talking about focus and similar concepts.

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Yes Pirate ,I feel they could make themselves far easier to understand if they were interested in doing so. I read a tantric e book on tantric sex once and it went on with astral travel and the like for many chapters, but all the stuff that was actual pe was in a single paragraph. It seemed to be what we do ,as far as I can tell.

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I've read one on tantric sex and MMO also. A couple in fact, which all talk about moving the sexual energy out of your dick to the rest of your body by kegeling and squeezing your ass cheeks as hard as you can and curling your toes. Does seem to work.

Translation to me was get your whole body involved in sex, not just your dick. Focus on the pleasure in other parts of your body too. I've been doing that and its great. Sex feels better. Other thing I took from it was to focus on the feelings in your body and not the images in your head. This kinda goes back to the porn thing. Too much porn and/or in the wrong way can have a negative impact on enjoyment of sex.

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Yeah squeeze the ass cheeks sounds like a type of kegal also, sounds like they are doing very similar to what members here are.
Kegals can be used to slow down or speed up progress towards ponr, as well as to go through it.
From memory both Pe zen and gyrta have threads on how to slow progress to ponr with kegals.
Of course most guys unconciously use kegals to speed up progress towards ponr.
As I am mmo, I sometimes use kegals to speed to ponr, so that I can start mmo earlier.
After some basic practise with stop /start edging, one should progress to experimenting with the efffect of various kegals and how your body reacts and what effect it has re ponr.
I think the sex as a whole body experience thing ,is a usefull point.

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I've done a little edging but not much. Most of my work has been in the bedroom with my girl. I've told her what I won't to accomplish and she sometimes edges me with a Tenga egg - that's a blast.

I should probably do more edging on my own. My issue is I have sex every night and don't really feel the desire to masturbate. When I do my EG is only about a 7 - somehow I can't get myself there.

Not having much success with the PC muscle relaxation - seems I am very tense with those muscle most of the time. Trying to mix it up and kegel too. Think I've been getting too close to PONR before kegaling so will try a little earlier.

Thanks for the tips.

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Hmmm if your pc is too tense,hard,stiff,yang more standard kegals can increase the problem. Reverse kegals add yin ,flexibility,relaxation.
We are experimenting in this area and little is well established, but I suggest 50% reverse kegals in your kegal routine.
Someone with a spasm type kegal happening uncontroleably during sex mcould go over that %.
Someone who is balanced, perhaps 30 to 40% reverse.
I suspect that someone with too much yin ,would have delayed ejaculation, but that is only intuition.
Of course they would need few reverse and more standard kegals.

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Pegasus,

Interesting thought that I think has a tremendous amount of merit. I am definitely higher on the yang side and think I have always been that way in the past. The history of why is rather long a complicated so I'll skip it. However, you comments gave me a different way of looking at this.

I've been working my kegels pretty hard without much for reverse kegals. I've been doing more reverse recently and think I'll step that up a notch. I've noticed a lot of tension in other parts of my body too - special around my eyes.

In other words, too much tension and not enough relaxation. Will be working more relaxation into the routine from here on in.

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Let us know your progress.

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I tend toward delayed ejaculation especially during oral. Per Pegasus' suggestion, I have been working on kegeling to accelerate PONR. I may be experiencing some success but it is still hard to tell so far.

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If this theory holds up pirate,you would be helped by a low % of reverse.