society favors women?

[jbeez8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jbeez8]

1st let me start by saying this is not a woman bashing forum.I myself am a man who loves women,I enjoy their company,and for Gods sake they carry our big headed babies for us.But I've noticed since I was in high school just how much society,social networks,music,movies and pretty much anything else you can think of places such high value on women and absolutely none on men.when we are boys growing up we are taught to treat girls like princesses, and as men told to treat them like queens.but is that kind of treatment really fair if they dont treat us like kings?girls are brought up believing that this is how they should be treated(rarely caring for the guy who will treat them this way)and not being taught the value of having a good man in their lives.No not all guys are richard gere in pretty woman,but hey all women aren't evie in the mummy returns either.if you listen to music(any kind)if it is female singer,she is constantly ripping the man to shreads about how terrible of a person he is and the song goes on to be a smash hit single.even men do it to themselves these days,tyrese did a song about how sorry he is that the love of his life has to put up with him and that he should value her more,witch ofcourse the latter is fine.but apologize for the person you are?why not just apologize for what you did wrong?on facebook earlier today I noticed picture messages had been posted to women stating how much more valuable they are and how to know when someone deserves them,or how to know when someone is worth their time.which is also fine,bbut the problem for me is WHERE THE HELL IS THIS KIND OF STUFF FOR MEN!my point is really for guys and the point is for you to realize what YOU are worth,and whats worthy and not worthy of YOUR time.I know that pussy is an amazing thing,one of Gods best inventions, but so is your cock,your cock brings them more pleasure than their vaginas can bring to you.you can literally make a woman addicted to you and what you do,and dont forget that.you are of value as well.not just them

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Many women will say that society favors men and if you look around the world you will find they are right. society is still behind the times and favors men. I dont get what you are saying.
Dont base your veiws on a few pop songs that will not last as long as a fart in the wind!

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

You can see it both ways, and in the end it will just be an endless debate of who favors who.

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

@jbeez8 I totally feel you man! I agree on almost everything. Girls nowadays totally grow up in a fantasy world. All they hear is how shitty all guys are and that there is one mister right out there for them.. If he doesn't answer this to that than he's a piece of shit etc etc etc. Even guys, like you said, start fo fall for it and start singing about "how pure their love for them is" .. You get these Chris brown, justin timberlake and justin bieber-punks on the radio and television. In their clips dancing behind a lady like all guys will start to dance ofcourse when we want to seduce a hot women out in public on the streets .. The bad boys are totally hot nowadays. Let's take a look at all the shitty vampire series where the love is "forbidden" or "impossible" like all those poems in the Middle Ages. They learn how to seduce guys/being social while we are out there playing videogames. Even our freaking parents tell us what to do and what to say against a girl .. Thanks mom! for all the years of shit advice! Let me tell you what should be the advice in cosmo and all that .. Dress like a classy, sexy lady .. Play sports so you don't get fat and learn how to be flirty .. That's it. Now, lady, you can seduce 95% of all guys. Don't get me started on what we need to do nowadays to be "socially accepted" .. The metrosexual alone gets me sick .. Men wearing make-up and stuff.

[jbeez8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jbeez8]

Society in this thread is the topicim not speaking about inwhich we live.american society.no one is targeting pop music.just examples.I base my views on facts that I see and notice. You base yours on whatever you wish.this is not intended to imply that men are better than women,but simply that we are valuable as well.sadly alot of men dont feel this way about themselves.and will do anything to win approval of the opposite sex.if the rest of the world degrades women to make them feel low,this is also an issue in my eyes.nobody get your panties in a bunch.the point is that all people have value of some sort and not one should be put infront of the other,or have one to be made to feel less.love yourself and know what your worth.cant do that?it is what it is

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

A good friend of mine does almost everything for his girl. EVERYTHING. It's sickening.

If I ever become like him, please shoot me. NO WAY IN HELL, I will ever bow down for other women. Don't get me wrong I don't hate women but some really EXPECT guys to behave in a certain way around them. For example: offer a drink to a woman. WHERE THE HELL did that come from? I don't know you, I don't owe you a drink do I?

... I can go on and on about this

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

Some women are so superficial. You hear constantly "guys just want sex", that's all. I've heard girlfriends of me say: wow! that guy has a car omg!
wow! that guy goes to the gym!
...

When I go out in my "home pub" or how do you call it in English.. I constantly see black guys who do nothing but fighting and dealing drugs with the hottest girls. Turkish guys the same.

I never see women like "mm, that seems like a nice guy, let's smile at him".. NO! Women are as superficial as men. They want to look good, look respected because they hang out with "the alphas of the pack (just dumb people who love to fight with their group)" ..

The hottest women are almost always with a guy who has TONS of money or who has some social status like a celebrity ..

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Society in this thread is the topicim not speaking about inwhich we live.american society.no one is targeting pop music.just examples.I base my views on facts that I see and notice. You base yours on whatever you wish.this is not intended to imply that men are better than women,but simply that we are valuable as well.sadly alot of men dont feel this way about themselves.and will do anything to win approval of the opposite sex.if the rest of the world degrades women to make them feel low,this is also an issue in my eyes.nobody get your panties in a bunch.the point is that all people have value of some sort and not one should be put infront of the other,or have one to be made to feel less.love yourself and know what your worth.cant do that?it is what it is

Go to almost any major corporation and see who gets paid more and then tell me who is favored, a few goofs on men in commercials, songs and movies still does not compare to the fact that many women in the world hold the same jobs as men but in average get paid less.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

A good friend of mine does almost everything for his girl. EVERYTHING. It's sickening.

If I ever become like him, please shoot me. NO WAY IN HELL, I will ever bow down for other women. Don't get me wrong I don't hate women but some really EXPECT guys to behave in a certain way around them. For example: offer a drink to a woman. WHERE THE HELL did that come from? I don't know you, I don't owe you a drink do I?
... I can go on and on about this

I can guarentee you the first drink offered to a women was the mans idea. Men will do anything to get in a girls pants. This includes buying a nice car, buying her a drink. Trying on 200 dolar jeans to where out and anything else they can think of. Most of these things are mens doing and now we blame it on women. think about it, I mean really think about it. It goes back to being the show off to get her attention. If a girl asks you to buy here drink just say no. Unless of course you want to.

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

So my conclusion is: why be a good guy?

Assholes always get the finest women. The good guys get their part of the share when women want kids and a steady place to live. Guys, make your choice!

[TheSperminator Member of the Month Oct 12 Find all posts View Profile Close TheSperminator]

I can guarentee you the first drink offered to a women was the mans idea. Men will do anything to get in a girls pants. This includes buying a nice car, buying her a drink. Trying on 200 dolar jeans to where out and anything else they can think of. Most of these things are mens doing and now we blame it on women. think about it, I mean really think about it. It goes back to being the show off to get her attention. If a girl asks you to buy here drink just say no. Unless of course you want to.

Yeah, I know, it's sickening isn't it? In what type of world do we live that a man pays a girl a drink in the hope he gets some later on the evening.. How much of a man are you then?

It's almost a standard nowadays that you buy a woman a drink when you talk with her. And that's ofcourse all are fault but I just don't get it. Why do you lower yourself like that? It makes other real men look stupid.

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

So my conclusion is: why be a good guy?

Assholes always get the finest women. The good guys get their part of the share when women want kids and a steady place to live. Guys, make your choice!

Define 'finest women' if you're looking for fake, ssuperficial, and only pretty on the outside, then I wouldn't call that fine nor a woman.

[jbeez8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jbeez8]

A good friend of mine does almost everything for his girl. EVERYTHING. It's sickening.

If I ever become like him, please shoot me. NO WAY IN HELL, I will ever bow down for other women. Don't get me wrong I don't hate women but some really EXPECT guys to behave in a certain way around them. For example: offer a drink to a woman. WHERE THE HELL did that come from? I don't know you, I don't owe you a drink do I?

... I can go on and on about this

This is a decent example.
the value of a woman IS higher than that of a man (in america) and it is due to what we are taught growing up,what we hear on the radio,and what we see on tv.whats even worse is women see and hear this too,and believe it.a real woman will laugh at these guys and long for a real man.a real woman wants a guy with confidence(knows his value)and knows what he can bring to the table. Once again I am not bashing women but simply trying to encourage my fellow man to be a MAN and to not be what society wants them to be
Hell dont even be what I want u too.but be what was intended.a man who knows what he's worth

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

I am not getting your point here. I am a man, not an ass kisser of women ( I know you didnt say I am ) and I know many women that are tought that it is important to have a good man in their lives. A women looking for a man with confidence and knowing that he can provide is not wrong in any way at all. What should she want, a total fuckwad that has no job and no confidence at all. I wouldnt be happy if my sister dated a loser.
If women are truly making fun of the average guy nowadays I dont blame them, hell I make fun of them too. You know how hard it is to find a "real man" to work for you. I am a roofer, i have my own small business going and I would say that most men now are sissy boy pussies who dont want to work hard for a living, they all sit on their pussified asses all day and then wish for a job testing X-box games. Most men are not worth dating and that is why being a decent man, making a living and supporting ones self are what women are seeking and it should be.
There is a dufference between a man who knows what he is worth and one who thinks " what " he is worth, a big difference.

[jbeez8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jbeez8]

I can guarentee you the first drink offered to a women was the mans idea. Men will do anything to get in a girls pants. This includes buying a nice car, buying her a drink. Trying on 200 dolar jeans to where out and anything else they can think of. Most of these things are mens doing and now we blame it on women. think about it, I mean really think about it. It goes back to being the show off to get her attention. If a girl asks you to buy here drink just say no. Unless of course you want to.

No women are not to blame for anything.the title says society and in my original post I speak about what we are taught and what we see