Subliminal Programming for a Larger Penis?

[girthWORKZ Member Find all posts View Profile Close girthWORKZ]

Hello all,

I'm creating this thread in order to get an idea of how many of you would be interested in purchasing a subliminal program geared towards increasing the size of your penis. I know a gentleman who is most likely the most skilled/talented/gifted subliminal programmer in the world. The man is a genius when it comes to these things. I first heard of his programs and ordered one of them through eBay, probably around 10 years ago. He offers programs aimed at a variety of concerns -- increasing your confidence, increasing your testosterone levels, increasing your sex appeal, overcoming phobias, and many other aspects of self-improvement. I'm not sure of how many of you have ever used subliminal programs or hypnosis before but I have used quite a few in my day, including a number of them created by him, and I can attest to how effective his programs are.

However, he is currently in a debate with some of his customers regarding the creation of a supped-up version of a penis enlargement subliminal program. Currently, he's leaning towards a decision of not making one due to the fact that PE is generally met with great suspicion and is usually considered a bunch of bull. Therefore, he doesn't want to ruin the reputation he's built and have potential customers discredit all of his other programs and all the advancements his made in the field of subliminal programming and it's credibility.

Through this thread, provided enough people participate and the polls show that many of you would be interested in purchasing such a product, I'm hoping he will take heed and develop this enlargement program. Previously, he created what I would consider a "trial version" of a penis enlargement program that showed, in my opinion, impressive results. Some users testified to having gained up to 1.5" in length and 1" in girth in a period of 6-12 months. However, as with anything, results will vary. Likewise, proper use is also of paramount importance when it comes to these programs. At the bare minimum, you should be listening to the program for no less than 4 hours a day, everyday, for at least 6 months. However, results will come quicker if you listen for around 8 hours per day. As with anything in life, consistency is the key.

With all that being said, he's developed new methods, technologies, and script optimization techniques since having first made that trial version of a penis enlargement subliminal program. This means that, presently, he has the ability to create a program far more effective in terms of quickness of results and extent of the results than ever before. The difference between the two would be like comparing a chihuahua to a rottweiler.

In my opinion, however, even if the program "only" resulted in an increase of 1/2" in length and 1/2" in girth after listening for 8 hours a day, everyday, for 6 months....those are still worthwhile gains. If you're starting at 6" EL and 5" EG, that's an 8.33% increase in length and a 10% increase in girth. That's impressive, considering you haven't really been doing anything except letting a very calming/soothing MP3 play on loop as you work on your laptop, as you sleep, or as you make your commute to work or school, or while you're cleaning around the house, or even while you're working out. Its as close to effortless gains as you're going to get. Also, an increase 1/2" in length and girth will certainly provide a new burst of inspiration for PE'ers who have recently been in at a standstill in terms of results. Likewise, I think PE'ers are more likely to experience faster and better results when using a subliminal program because we don't have the mental blockage of believing PE is a scam. We know its real, we know it works and that means the program won't take additional time to show results because it was too busy dealing with mental blockages.

Some of you may shake your head at the hypothetical situation of "only" gaining 1/2" in 6 months of daily use. However, 1/2" is 1/2". Of course, gains of 1" or more in length and girth would be more desirable, but when it comes to PE, I'm sure all of us will take and be satisfied with whatever we get...especially when such gains come so effortlessly.

Generally speaking, his newest programs will cost about $90. To me, that's a reasonable price. Heck, I would probably pay twice that if he were able to create a program that guarantees an inch increase in both length and girth. I'd pay $100 per inch without any hesitation. I might even pay $200, to be honest.

That's basically it. Please participate in the poll itself and also leave a comment detailing why you would or would not be interested in purchasing such a product. If enough people participate (I'm hoping for at least 30 or so), I will show this forum to the man behind the programs and get back to you with what he says. To me, I think it would be a win-win if the program gets created. He will have a bunch of new customers and we will have another weapon in our PE arsenal. Not only that, I'm sure most of us are amongst the people that need to see it to believe it which means we will be providing him and his other customers with a lot of written testimonials and even before/after pictures that he could use as undeniable proof to the effectiveness of not only the enlargement program, but subliminal programming in general.

Thank you all for participating!

[namsokiek Banned Find all posts View Profile Close namsokiek]

How, precisely, will a subliminal program lengthen the longitudinal and circumferential strands of my tunica, increase the number of smooth muscle cells, improve control of the pelvic floor, and improve circulation? These are the foundation building blocks of PE.

Here is where I wave the big BS flag.

Now if your marketing post suggested that a subliminal program would help me maintain the right mindset, maintain a dedication to my routine, and help me build self-confidence around my body and satisfaction with my penis then I think it is possible. Hypnosis and subliminal messages can change a person's perception, just like surrounding yourself with people who all voice the same opinion eventually brings your opinion on that subject in line with those voices.

But your posts, as I read it, suggests that merely listening does not change my outlook, dedication, or my commitment, instead it changes my physical tissue without the bother of actually performing the work necessary for the change.

So how, precisely, will the recorded words of another actually affect a change in my physiology?

[Lavian Member Find all posts View Profile Close Lavian]

I agree with Namsokiek. Only way I see this works is by altering your perception and making you cheat on yourself.

There could be an argument for a placebo effect, but I highly doubt that.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

You really believe this will work? Okay everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are wrong. Well let's not say wrong;misguided might be kinder! ( I get yelled at for being harsh so I'm trying to be kinder)

[girthWORKZ Member Find all posts View Profile Close girthWORKZ]

How, precisely, will a subliminal program lengthen the longitudinal and circumferential strands of my tunica, increase the number of smooth muscle cells, improve control of the pelvic floor, and improve circulation? These are the foundation building blocks of PE.

Here is where I wave the big BS flag.

Now if your marketing post suggested that a subliminal program would help me maintain the right mindset, maintain a dedication to my routine, and help me build self-confidence around my body and satisfaction with my penis then I think it is possible. Hypnosis and subliminal messages can change a person's perception, just like surrounding yourself with people who all voice the same opinion eventually brings your opinion on that subject in line with those voices.

But your posts, as I read it, suggests that merely listening does not change my outlook, dedication, or my commitment, instead it changes my physical tissue without the bother of actually performing the work necessary for the change.

So how, precisely, will the recorded words of another actually affect a change in my physiology?

Firstly, I want to thank you for taking the time out to read and respond.

Secondly, in regards to you using the words "marketing post" to describe my thread, I would like everyone to know that I am in no way financially or even personally affiliated with the person who would be making the program. I have simply used some of his programs before and have seen good results and would like for him to create this new program but he needs more persuading based on the aforementioned qualms he has with creating the program.

In regards to the effects the program will have, I suppose half of the program would be geared toward making physical alterations and the other half would be geared towards altering any negative or pessimistic thoughts you may have towards your body, your unit, your sex life, and your PE endeavors.

You already understand how hypnosis and subliminal messages can alter your perception/thoughts/mindset since that's a pretty simple concept to grasp. People are impressionable, and their viewpoints can be swayed in one direction or another given enough convincing or repetition of a given affirmation. Ex: If you grow up always receiving praise for your good looks, odds are you will begin to believe you're good looking. Conversely, if you grow up always receiving ridicule about how ugly you are, odds are you will begin to adopt negative opinions about yourself.

Your inquiry is about how would it be possible for the repetition of a given set of affirmations result in physical changes without you doing anything physical. & Quite frankly, I'm not exactly sure I can convince you of how it works. The premise is that the directions (affirmations for physical change) are sent directly to your subconscious mind and the subconscious mind has the power to make changes on a cellular level. That's my basic understanding of how it works. Not exactly all that convincing, I bet.

Likewise, these statements can easily be argued against with something along the lines of: "Alright, so if it can make my penis longer and thicker without doing anything then that means he can make a muscle building program that will enable me to get bigger, firmer muscles without doing anything, right?". If that argument was proposed, I wouldn't really have a rebuttal since I'm not so sure that would be possible without actually working out. I believe it would be able to expedite gains by increasing the secretion of growth hormones and testosterone or increasing your metabolic rate, but actually growing the muscle without external stimuli.....I'm not so sure. Considering a muscle consists of muscle fibers/tissue and the tendons and ligaments that attach it to the bone, and the penis also contains similar tissues then why would it work for PE but not for muscle building? I don't know. What I do know is that there have been quite a few people who claim to have increases of up to 1.5" in length and 1" in girth in 6-12 months while using an older version of his program. Women who have used breast enlargement hypnosis or subliminal programs have also reported increases of up to a cup and a half. Myself, using a few different hypnosis programs previously that dealt with ED, I saw great improvements relatively quickly in regards to my EQ. If a program can consistently result in giving me an EQ of 9-10 after listening to the program for 30 minutes, when usually I can only achieve an EQ of 5-6...even with a ton of external or visual and even physical stimuli...then I don't see why it can't do other wonders in regards to my unit.

Clearly, my argument isn't convincing, but I would gladly do all the testing first, before anyone on here invests that $90 (or however much he decides to charge). I would gladly take high quality progress pictures and take measurement pictures as well with rulers and tape measures. However, we will never know if the program will work wonders if it is never built. Presently, he has no intention of building it, but he is open to persuasion if enough people show an interest in purchasing the product...which is why I created this thread.

Even if the program turns out to be a fluke, there is a money back guarantee and they don't give you the run-around when you request a refund. At the worst, you've wasted 4-8 hours a day/night listening to a very soothing MP3 that sounds like ocean surf for the last 6 months. At the best, you have a penis that has increased by an inch (or more) in both length and girth.

Thank you again for your input!

[girthWORKZ Member Find all posts View Profile Close girthWORKZ]

You really believe this will work? Okay everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are wrong. Well let's not say wrong;misguided might be kinder! ( I get yelled at for being harsh so I'm trying to be kinder)

Not harsh at all. I want everyone's opinion, whether it is in unison with mine or in disagreement.

I do believe it will work, regardless of me not exactly being able to fully explain how or why it is possible. I guess they refer to that as "blind faith" or perhaps "wishful thinking" or naivety or foolishness.

I just want to be able to try it out for myself. I know quite a few other companies offer a PE subliminal MP3, but I have much more faith in the quality of this individual's products than any other. I do think his products are significantly more effective than the "competition". In terms of personal experiences with his products in comparison to other companies I've listened to....its just an entirely different caliber. High school track athlete vs Usain Bolt.

But...we'll never find out if there's not enough interest in the product.

Thanks for your input!

[bigborer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigborer]

Out of all the new age "personal development" bullshit, I'd say "subliminal programming" is the most ridiculous/dumbest idea of them all.

[AlpineNewt Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close AlpineNewt]

The guy who invented subliminal advertising - James Vicary - admitted years later that it was a hoax and hypnosis doesn't work on me so you can count me out.

[burtybasset Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close burtybasset]

I think you need a further category in your poll, because I don't believe in this, but I certainly believe hypnosis works for lots things, I just don't think it will make you grow.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

There is a subliminal PE thread over at Thunders. However, it focuses primarily on improving EQ (and other self image improvements). No mention of cell growth.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Bullllllllllshit. I also got magic beans that give you the power of flight. Honest they work.

[TPW Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close TPW]

Hiya girthWORKZ,

There have been many documented cases in which hypnosis has been used successfully to modify human physiology. However, the hypnosis was often used in conjunction with other treatments. And the success of hypnotherapy was for repair work of the body rather than new growth.

It is interesting to note that hypnosis does seem to have significant results in previous psychological studies when it comes to breast enlargement for women. However, according to these rather old hypnotherapy studies (1979), breast enlargement only occurred because the test subjects were able to alter their hormone levels to increase growth rather than growing additional tissue, etc.

So I agree with Namso on this one. Yes, hypnotherapy alone may prove to be effective - at least to the 70-75% of individuals who can even become hypnotized - to increase the positive mental mindset of PE or even possibly modify hormone or other levels but will do nothing to modify the physiology where actual growth is concerned.

[girthWORKZ Member Find all posts View Profile Close girthWORKZ]

The guy who invented subliminal advertising - James Vicary - admitted years later that it was a hoax and hypnosis doesn't work on me so you can count me out.

If by "subliminal advertising", i.e. flashing messages at such a rapid speed that it will go unnoticed by your conscious sight a couple of times or even a dozen or two dozen times a day when viewing some type of commercial for any given product is much different than subliminal MP3's.

You can flash "Buy a SizeGenetics package now" 50 times every day for 6 months on the background of my laptop screen whenever I'm logged into this website, but that really isn't going to result in me actually buying one. The effects produced from listening to a thoroughly scripted subliminal mp3 for 8 hours a day for 6 months are on an entirely different level.

[girthWORKZ Member Find all posts View Profile Close girthWORKZ]

Bullllllllllshit. I also got magic beans that give you the power of flight. Honest they work.

I'd like to have some of those beans, sir. If you have some berries that grant me the power of super strength, I'd like those as well.

Jokes aside, you think its bull. That's fair. However, what vote will you be casting? Can your opinion not be swayed?

So far we have the majority of voters choosing the "No! Subliminal programs and hypnosis are all a bunch of BS!" option, but I find it hard to believe that if the program is made and I use it as the trail tester and my unit comes out 2" (or 1" or 1/2") longer and thicker than before....will that not convince you?

I'm sure most non-believers should be choosing the "I'm not sure just yet. I'd have to wait to hear other people's experience first." option. It only makes sense to be open to the idea and wait for trial testing to be ran before completely tossing the idea out the window. Likewise, all these no's surely aren't going to convince the program designer to create the script and develop the mp3, so we're probably not even going to get a chance to find out. A maybe, provided testing is done prior with unquestionable results, however, might make him wish to take on the challenge.

[girthWORKZ Member Find all posts View Profile Close girthWORKZ]

Hiya girthWORKZ,

There have been many documented cases in which hypnosis has been used successfully to modify human physiology. However, the hypnosis was often used in conjunction with other treatments. And the success of hypnotherapy was for repair work of the body rather than new growth.

It is interesting to note that hypnosis does seem to have significant results in previous psychological studies when it comes to breast enlargement for women. However, according to these rather old hypnotherapy studies (1979), breast enlargement only occurred because the test subjects were able to alter their hormone levels to increase growth rather than growing additional tissue, etc.

So I agree with Namso on this one. Yes, hypnotherapy alone may prove to be effective - at least to the 70-75% of individuals who can even become hypnotized - to increase the positive mental mindset of PE or even possibly modify hormone or other levels but will do nothing to modify the physiology where actual growth is concerned.

You mentioned here that breasts were enlarged using hypnosis, without any external/physical means to facilitate such gains. The enlargement was caused by a change in hormone secretion that was directly influenced by the hypnosis.

So if that is possible, what automatically makes it impossible for PE to occur through hypnosis or subliminal programming if the scripts include increasing the amount of growth hormone your body secretes or from a hormonal standpoint -- reverting back to the bodily conditions that causes a man's penis to permanently increase in size during puberty?

Surely, most of us never engaged in PE when we were going through puberty -- unless that exercise was masturbation or accidentally PE. So, if the penis could enlarge through those means, without external/physical facilitation, then why isn't it possible for the body to produce those results again?

I for one know my unit increased by at least 1" between the ages of 14 and 16 -- both flaccid and erect. I wasn't engaged in any sort of PE activity during that time. By age 16, I did know about PE, but that 1"+ of growth had already been set in place. Once I did begin PE, though, I also noticed a very quick increase of 1/4" in girth after 3-4 weeks that has been permanent. Surely, the quick gains was also heavily influenced by whatever hormonal or bodily stasis my body was in during that time.

So, who says subliminal programs are incapable of replicating/reproducing the bodily condition that causes penises to grow during puberty without the performance of PE exercises?

Thank you for your input!