Attention2detail's Log to complete control

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I usually stop and have to Kegal hard for 5-10 seconds, maybe I'm getting "too close" to the PONR? After releasing the kegal I chill for a bit longer before going back at it. What is ballooning in this sense...

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Stopping the stroking of your penis, and instead rubbing a small sensitive area. The glans, or the frenulum usually. This keeps the erection alive but also keeps stimulation going. Try stopping a little sooner and using ballooning.

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Day 11

Attempted edging today with no success. Good EQ only for a few minutes then all down hill. Tried ballooning as suggested but nothing improved the EQ. Ended up stopping early. I think I am going to take a day off. Haven't taken a complete day off yet.

One observation I can say is that my fantasies, which used to be super intense and arousing, have tapered off and really don't have the same effect rushing me to the PONR. I am going to see this as a positive change. My mind is now less inclined to speed its way to the PONR and is more adjusted to relaxing and enjoying the slower build up. I think that this is a result of consistent edging practice and no more porn.

Happy with progress thus far. Feeling more confident and pleased with what I've discovered about myself. Enjoying the journey and not over burdened with need for fast results.

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One observation I can say is that my fantasies, which used to be super intense and arousing, have tapered off and really don't have the same effect rushing me to the PONR. I am going to see this as a positive change. My mind is now less inclined to speed its way to the PONR and is more adjusted to relaxing and enjoying the slower build up. I think that this is a result of consistent edging practice and no more porn.

Yeah I feel it's kind of a double edged sword when going cold turkey down the whole "no visual stimulation" route. I'm on day 28 of no porn and truthfully I don't miss it (much) BUT it is at the same time getting harder and harder to be creative about fantasies that do it for me, hence the EQ comes and goes.

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Day 11 update

Somehow managed to find some time to get in another edge. 40 minute great session. Made up for earlier. EQ was 10/10. Feeling great about the amount of control I've built up thus far (although I still have a way to go). I was able to stroke fast at times, did not have to stop (just slow down for a bit when getting too aroused), and really enjoy the sensations. By far the best session I've had. The last 5 min ballooned at the PONR for 5 minutes and ejaculated after that. I've let go of the not ejaculating every time practice because now I feel like I'm making good progress. I'll most likely ejaculate every other or every third session for the time being. Still only doing RKs while standing throughout the day for now.

Thanks for your input Bloom and wishful. Hoping you both are making progress on your goals.

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What I find the most problematic here is not merely the quality of an erection, but rather the underlying factor: lack of arousal. This means that one exercises on an utterly different level of stimulation (both mental and physical) compared to a real sex.

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Day 12

Not much to report. 10 minutes of edging then went soft. I now know when to stop after loosing EQ and not force it and edge soft. Not concerned about this really. I can see that my body is shifting awareness slowly more to the physical then the mental/fantasy. Quite pleased with this change. I've noticed that with the little awareness that I've built, I don't allow my fantasies to push me into the PONR zone. I kind of snap out of the fantasy before I get there. It is not by any means automatic yet, however it's a sign of improved conditioning to me.

Day 13

Great 30 minutes edge today. Did not ejaculate. Great EQ the whole way. I am getting the hang of relaxing my arousal from 9 to 8 much better now. I think what I am doing is the slightest RK but not sure. Like I mentioned previously it's like the build up of a sneeze. I just relax all the tension and it takes me back to plateau phase. Granted, I'm not stoking 90mph yet, I have been able to increase my speed to what I would consider good thrusting speed for sex. Medium/medium fast pace for edging. I still stroke slow at times. The last 5 min I spend ballooning just before the PONR which feels awesome and allows me to really feel how my body responds to high arousal. I can feel the IKs and tension and work on my relaxing/RK exercises. Later on had 15 min of sex, did not ejaculate. Again, sex was a great mix of all different thrusting speeds and techniques. I still have to be very aware of my arousal though as I could easily push myself over into climax. I continually stay behind my PONR and fluently change thrusting style/ speed to accommodate. I then speed it up when I can and slow it back down again either for fun or to calm down a hair. Breathing into my belly now and then also seems to help when edging or having sex. I think it increases physical awareness.

Overall, I am amazed with how much progress and awareness I've built thus far. I would say learning to relax tension and slow paced edging has been the major contributors thus far. Those two practices have had a tremendous impact in the way my brain responds to edging and sex. I can't wait to see what I am saying in 3 months from now.

I would say to anyone struggling, relax and take it slow. Build your awareness at a slow pace and then gradually build it up. You will figure your body out with time and patients. Then you can start to condition it slowly like I am doing now. This takes a lot of time to develop as I am learning. Positive attitude is also key. Don't give up, don't get down, just change what your are doing slightly until you get a break through. Example: I was doing RKs with lots of force at first until I changed it up and realized how much more effective a subtle RK was for me. I hope my expierences now and to follow will help someone out. More posts to follow as progress continues. A2D.

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Yeah I think it's important to not get discouraged when having a "bad day". I usually only edge right after a 'workout' and so I attribute some EQ issues to having just done some stretching and a lot of jelqing already.

A "good day" for me is getting close to the 20 min mark (haven't quite made it yet) with solid EQ throughout, but sometimes only after 10 mins or so my dick just taps out. I should prob do more isolated edging.

When you're able to go for 30 mins, are you hitting the PONR multiple times throughout? I usually hit it within the first 3 mins, but then once that subsides the distance between gets larger and larger.

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I was hitting the PONR within minutes before I started edging slower for plateau phase. Once I started edging slow the plateau phase started to become more dominant and now I can speed up my stroking a little bit. Edging very slowly at first helped me a lot so far. I still don't edge super fast as I am slowly building my control. I am very convinced at this point that gaining control is 75% mental 25% physical. It's just going to take time to cement the training after years of some poor habits. Keep following my thread for updates and progress. In 3-6 months I should have definitive control and be able to ejaculate on demand however long or short I want. Thanks for your input and feedback!

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Day 14

20 min edging. Good EQ. Did not reach PONR. I most likely could have if I wanted to but I either slowed my stroking down and/or relaxed my arousal to avoid reaching it.

Feeling great after 2 weeks of logging. I started plateau edging 3 weeks ago if you are interested in a more accurate timeline of my progress.

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Not reaching the PONR in 20 mins, good for you man. That's my goal. Question though - are ejaculating regularly? I've been "saving" mine for the GF the past few weeks but I usually see her every 3 days or so. Just because of our recent schedules today is day number 6 and f*ck me if it wasn't difficult to edge this morning after the workout. The positive is that I was able to go 20 mins but I prob hit the PONR like 7 times. I've switched (for the most part) to "ballooning" as I get close instead of a hard kegal & pause but man, I'm ready to blow.

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I didn't allow myself to reach the PONR. I either slow down my stroking or relax my arousal level down with my mind and pelvic floor muscles.

I rarely ejaculate when edging. I just don't feel the need to. My edging is all about training to control the urge to ejaculate and stay in the plateau and/or balloon as close to the PONR as possible for as long as possible. I don't really even count the days between ejaculations anymore. I think I've gotten used to it.

I continuously control my stroking when edging. Instead of going right to the PONR, I slow down before I get there. And I mean really slow it down. Keep my EQ as good as possible, relax, and enjoy the sensations. Deciding when to stop is the hard part. This is working great for me. You will need to find what works best for you.

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congrats man on improvement. btw tried it in sex?

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Yes. I keep myself behind the PONR if that makes sense. I don't go crazy thrusting. I keep my rhythm and arousal under control. At times I will need to slow down or even pause for a second. This allows me to mentally reset to some extent. I relax my pelvic floor and contiously release the tension. It's easy to make these slow downs and 1 second pauses fluent and even increase her pleasure when doing so. I'm not an expert, and I am still working on my technique to improve my conditioning. I am sure in the future I will be able to maintain any speed/style thrusting without thinking about it. It is just going to take some time and practice. I still perform RKs through the day and always try to combat the IK after peeing. I don't know if that is helping but it's kind of fun to try. I hope that you are making progress as well. A2D.

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Day 15

Edged 30 minutes. Best EQ I've had thus far. Last ten minutes reached the PONR twice. Overall, great session.