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    Detailed Background (TL;DR below)
    I started having sex this past summer, and the first few times I lasted around 5 minutes. It got better from there, and at my peak this summer I was lasting between 15 and 20 minutes. This was with thicker condoms, Trojan ENZ. I was also having sex more often and I think this helped me stay accustomed to it and last longer. Got a little anxiety about PE after I disappointed her a few times by busting early

    A few months ago I decided to use thinner condoms. As in way thinner, Kimono Microthins. Going from one of the thicker condoms out there to Kimonos definitely made it harder to last as long due to the increased sensation, but I've used them exclusively since then because they feel way better and I really don't want to go back to something thicker and get used to it, I want to get better at sex without a condom dulling the sensation.

    I switched condoms because I like a snug fit and I prefer how Kimonos are skin-tight on me. I started to wonder if my penis was big enough, and eventually developed the irrational belief that I was too small, or too narrow at least. I'm 7" x 4.75" and started to think that I was too thin to ever satisfy. This morphed into anxiety about sex, which I think has helped my PE get to where it is now.

    The anxiety about sex is definitely a big part, there have been a few times when she looked clearly disappointed that I was finished. This made me worry more about lasting because "I couldn't last time" etc.
    Sex also happens less often now, so I worry more about making it worth it each time which has the opposite effect.

    I recently told my partner that I'm working on this and she was very accommodating, so this past time I wasn't as consciously worried about disappointing.
    The last two times I've had sex it was soon after edging without orgasm. This was probably a mistake, as I only lasted a few minutes the first round. Round two right after is pretty good, like 15 minutes or so without having to pull out a ton. We'll see what happens now that she's understanding.

    TL;DR
    I started having sex this summer with thick condoms, went from lasting 5 minutes up to 15-20.
    Came early a few times in stressful situations, this disappointed girl, which got me worried about blowing too early. Eventually I started worrying that my length didn't matter and my girth (4.75") wasn't enough and switched to tighter and much thinner condoms.
    Now I had increased anxiety and increased sensation. Surprise, I didn't last as long. Started kegels, without them I'd probably bust within 5 minutes every time. Started edging, no routine yet so I can't tell if it's helped.


    Where I am now
    -I've got decent PC conditioning now due to kegels, stopped orgasm plenty of times during sex

    -Minimal RK ability, I need to get working on this but not sure how to start.

    -I still reach PONR way too damn early.

    -I want to pound, but I can't really because PONR is so close

    -Breathing techniques don't really help

    -No real training routine, I need to address this.


    Questions
    -Does anyone have experience and or tips for dealing with the mental side of PE? The most frustrating part is how I used to be better than I am now and I don't know how to get back to that

    -Is there a good rule of thumb for timing a K/RK routine and edging routine? How many days a week, etc.

    -What kegel routine would be recommended for someone with pretty good PC strength but minimal RK experience?

    -Should I be using a firm grip when edging to desensitize myself a little?
    I don't want death grip but it might be good to feel just a little bit less.

    -How many days a week should I rest? Sometimes I'll get sore from edging 20+ min daily.

    -How do I get better at pounding? I can only do like 10-15 hard and fast thrusts before slowing down/PONR and I just want to pound hard and long.

    I'd really appreciate some help/advice from others regarding this, I know I need to set up a routine of some sort but
    I don't know where to go from here and it feels kind of hopeless.
    condido35
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    Last edited by condido35; 12-10-2016, 02:43 PM. Reason: Formatting

  • #2
    Today's update
    Edged for about 10 minutes, sensitivity higher for some reason. Kegeled a few times to back off from PONR. Ended up finishing with little control.
    Going to avoid external stimulation and just use sensation for the foreseeable future, see if that helps.

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    • #3
      I wanted you to know I stopped by and read your questions. I am heading to bed, but will stop in tomorrow and give some answers. Good job starting a log. It will really help you going forward, and gives us a way to respond. See you tomorrow.
      ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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      • #4
        Today's update:
        Taking a day off from edging, did RK's throughout the day but that was about it.

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        • #5
          Hint : skip kegels 100% and focus hindu squat and rks until rks gets much more easy to perform

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          • #6
            Tonight's update
            Did RKs throughout the day. Decided to edge, 25 min edging with lots of RKs and using various positions(sitting, on back, knees, standing.) Lower EQ than normal, which I'm guessing is a sign that my pelvic floor is loosening up, moving in the right direction. Harder to reach PONR than usual, pretty much impossible for the first few minutes until I did a few kegels. More control than usual but lower EQ, I can live with that for now.
            Followed the edging with 5 minutes ballooning on frenulum, very sensitive to the point where it felt like a tickling sensation, didn't reach PONR. Well see what it does for sensitivity.
            Lastly, finished it all off with a 5 min Hindu squat.

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            • #7
              Today's update
              Too tired to get 30 min of edging in, so I didn't even start. Haven't ejaculated in 3 days, haven't done kegels in a few days either. It would be helpful to know when I should re-incorporate kegels into my workouts, and how to build it up to ensure balance. Advice would be great, I'll look into it myself tomorrow as well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by condido35 View Post
                Today's update
                Too tired to get 30 min of edging in, so I didn't even start. Haven't ejaculated in 3 days, haven't done kegels in a few days either. It would be helpful to know when I should re-incorporate kegels into my workouts, and how to build it up to ensure balance. Advice would be great, I'll look into it myself tomorrow as well.
                I think you should consider no Kegels for a while. According to your log you Kegeled yesterday. If your PC is tight consider no Kegels for several weeks.
                ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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                • #9
                  Update to the update for today I guess
                  Couldn't sleep so I did 35 min of edging with varied positions, can feel the IKs getting a little weaker, once again EQ wasn't fantastic but also a little better than last time.

                  Wishful- I guess I should have said no kegels as part of a routine like daily kegels, tried to minimize all kegels (including IKs) today during edging and found that slowing down and RKing was almost always enough to get me down from near PONR. I'll keep away from kegels for a while longer, definitely until I get my pelvic floor more under control.

                  Regarding semen retention, is there any benefit for Pre E to holding it in? I didn't ejaculate at the end of tonight's session and I think this will be day 3 without release. I'd be happy to keep it in if there's any benefit.

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                  • #10
                    Yes there seems to be some benefit. Try orgasming every 3-4 days. The rest of the time go for dry edging.
                    ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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                    • #11
                      Today's update and questions
                      I was sitting around a lot today and ended up edging, very sensitive likely due to some anxiety, ejaculated after around 25 minutes. An hour later or so I got going again, not as sensitive, did about 35 minutes seated edging until I reached PONR and ejaculated again. EQ was pretty strong both times.
                      I may have let my pelvic floor tighten up more today, and not done enough to mitigate that hence the greater EQ.

                      The question is- In terms of training the mind to dissociate ejaculation from arousal and becoming generally more tolerant to prolonged stimulation, is it better to just go edge once a day and ejaculate every 3-4? Or is more stimulation better as long as it is for longer periods of time?

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                      • #12
                        Not ejaculating every time you edge is great because you dissociate pleasure and ejaculation.
                        Nerdy Stuff for PreE Beginners

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                        • #13
                          Today's update
                          Edged 50 minutes with lots of variation, both in position and sensation. Good EQ, got more sensitive about 20 min in but I did a Hindu squat and then it was all good. Probably going to need to rest tomorrow after the duration and intensity of the session, wonder how sore I'll be tomorrow.
                          I've realised I still can't feel RKs the way I can feel any types of tensing kegel(root lock etc.) I just imagine myself releasing tightness and push out my belly, but it would be nice to know more positively when I'm RKing.

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                          • #14
                            You can find the relaxation of the RK by feeling the muscles relax as you push urine out. Once you find that then don't push urine out too often. Just use the RKs to further relaxation of the Pelvic Floor.
                            ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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                            • #15
                              Yesterday/today's update
                              Had sex last night, ejaculated a few hours beforehand but the first round was still very sensitive. Called it after 5 minutes and ejaculated.
                              Round 2 was better, went for 30 minutes, much less stopping and starting than usual which I was happy about. I was actually able to distract myself a few times to really go hard, the 9/7 hard/slow split works pretty well too. RKs were pretty good to keep arousal down until I got to a point where they didn't help much. The upside is that was 30 minutes without the use of any kegels to stave off ejaculation. I need to improve RK activation until I can reliably push them whenever necessary, going to spend some time getting more familiar with RK feeling in different positions, I haven't been doing reps, just holds but I may change that as well.

                              I'm starting to think that this is a mental issue, what with the first round being very sensitive no matter what happened before and the second being radically different. I never masturbate with a condom but that's the only way I have sex, may need to get used to that sensation to help my mind break the association of raw-masturbation-low anxiety vs condom-sex-high anxiety. Going to keep working on RKs, still avoiding kegels, gonna keep Hindu squatting with increased time, might try the condom thing just to see if it helps the mental aspect.

                              Thanks everyone for all the help.

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