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  • In Hindi squat I get the same feeling too. I just push the whole PF when i'm in hindi squat and if possible try to keep the pressure more forward. I found I can do a bigger RK by laying on my back and putting my butt almost to the wall and place my feet on the wall about shoulder apart knees bent to what would be a 90 degree angle if my butt was further back. I get into this position and its kind of a squat but allows me to RK really well.
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    4/5/19: BPEL 6' MEG 4.5'
    5/14/19: BPEL 6.45' MEG 4.75'
    Goal: BPEL 7.5' MEG 5.5'
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    • I am going to try this. The squat is still hard for me to do and I think I can be much more relaxed doing this

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      • Originally posted by bball33 View Post
        I am going to try this. The squat is still hard for me to do and I think I can be much more relaxed doing this
        You still need to work on your tight hip flexors that are causing your APT but this will help work as an alternative method for RKing. Still a big believer that a good Hindi squat stretches the PF nicely. As your quads stretch out and you regain flexibility your hindi squats will be easier. Like any stretch, it works the tightest area first and that would be your hip flexors feeling the tightness first i'm assuming.
        My PE Thread
        4/5/19: BPEL 6' MEG 4.5'
        5/14/19: BPEL 6.45' MEG 4.75'
        Goal: BPEL 7.5' MEG 5.5'
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        • I agree, very tight hip flexors. What are you doing for your apt. I am doing stretching quads and hip flexors and hollow rock and when I walk and stand I try to engage glutes to bring better hip alignment

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          • Originally posted by bball33 View Post
            I agree, very tight hip flexors. What are you doing for your apt. I am doing stretching quads and hip flexors and hollow rock and when I walk and stand I try to engage glutes to bring better hip alignment
            To be frankly honest iv been kind of laxed on the APT. I could do a lot more to focus on it but I dont. The 3 things I was doing was Hallow body crunches, the leg against the wall quad stretch and trying to keep my pelvis corrected all day. I had tried one method suggested about sticking a bigger pillow under your tailbone or just below to try and correct the pelvis while sleeping. The first time i tried it, i woke up and didn't feel different. I did it 2 nights ago out of curiosity and it felt like i had been doing lower back stretches all night.

            I think there is actually something to say about the pillow method as it forces your pelvis to be corrected while sleeping.

            I still stretch my quads and correct my pelvis every chance i get so its more maintaining then correcting. I saw more results when i was working the core and i know i had alot less apt when I gymed years ago. Its been a weird time for me right now and hope to get back into the gym to continue where i left off.
            My PE Thread
            4/5/19: BPEL 6' MEG 4.5'
            5/14/19: BPEL 6.45' MEG 4.75'
            Goal: BPEL 7.5' MEG 5.5'
            My PreE Thread

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            • Originally posted by ACPreE View Post
              To be frankly honest iv been kind of laxed on the APT. I could do a lot more to focus on it but I dont. The 3 things I was doing was Hallow body crunches, the leg against the wall quad stretch and trying to keep my pelvis corrected all day. I had tried one method suggested about sticking a bigger pillow under your tailbone or just below to try and correct the pelvis while sleeping. The first time i tried it, i woke up and didn't feel different. I did it 2 nights ago out of curiosity and it felt like i had been doing lower back stretches all night.

              I think there is actually something to say about the pillow method as it forces your pelvis to be corrected while sleeping.

              I still stretch my quads and correct my pelvis every chance i get so its more maintaining then correcting. I saw more results when i was working the core and i know i had alot less apt when I gymed years ago. Its been a weird time for me right now and hope to get back into the gym to continue where i left off.
              Thanks I think I will try the pillow trick too

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              • Log entry 8/10/19

                Had sex again last night and I'm actually pretty impressed with recovery so far. I went down on my gf to give her a head start for maybe 10 minutes and she wanted me inside. While I was going down on her I was just watching her reaction and getting in tune with her. My anxiety started to kick in and my heart started pounding. I took a couple deep 4 second breaths and it actually calmed me down.
                I stayed relaxed and deep breathed and rked slightly while having sex. She was on her side and I was able to last about 5 minutes then continue in missionary for another 5minutes.

                It took me a bit longer to start seeing results but now I clearly see why people give up. Iv been at this for 6 months and just started seeing considerable amounts of progress. But I'm happy I stuck with it. Going from 10 -20 seconds to about 5-10mins is a dream come true.

                Still want a few more nights of 5+ minutes and hopefully work up to more 10-20min sessions.

                Progress guys!
                My PE Thread
                4/5/19: BPEL 6' MEG 4.5'
                5/14/19: BPEL 6.45' MEG 4.75'
                Goal: BPEL 7.5' MEG 5.5'
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                • Congratulations! That's just awesome and keeps me motivated to keep moving forward myself

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                  • Contractulation!!!
                    5/2019 Start: 5,2" NBPEL X 4,35" MEG
                    10/2019 Bundled stretch: 5,6" NBPEL X 4,35"MEG
                    10/2019 - 2/2020 Girth Exersices: on/off and no gains
                    7/2020 Erect stretch: 6,25" NBPEL X 4,35" MEG

                    Short term goal: 7" NBPEL X 5,5" MEG
                    Long term goal: 8" NBPEL X 6,2" MEG

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                    • Out of curiosity, I've been seriously at it I think 3-4 weeks. I had sex 4 times this week and trained everyday and todays was awful. I read your thread and know it has been an up and down battle for you but at what stages did you really see results? It seems for the first few months you didn't really have much success until fairly recent. Was it the Hindi squat that you think was the best for you and how long till you started to see plateau when practicing?

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                      • Congratz man! That's really good to hear and also very motivating for me! I'm also really curious about bball33's questions. Please let us know.
                        Also... what do you guys think about learning the L-Sit. I've been progressing towards it in the past week and I feel like it an amazing exercise from not only strenghtening and stabilizing the core, but also strenghtening your hip flexors. Wondering if you guys agree that adding a daily progression towards the L-Sit could be a viable exercise to add for people with APT and PreE.

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                        • Originally posted by bball33 View Post
                          Out of curiosity, I've been seriously at it I think 3-4 weeks. I had sex 4 times this week and trained everyday and todays was awful. I read your thread and know it has been an up and down battle for you but at what stages did you really see results? It seems for the first few months you didn't really have much success until fairly recent. Was it the Hindi squat that you think was the best for you and how long till you started to see plateau when practicing?
                          So its almost at the 6 months mark from when I started my Log and I think its time for a little summery on my progression.

                          First of all it probably took me longer then some because of the few dips in routine when real life got in the way. It has also been a journey of discovery because along the way i picked up and dropped off things i was doing as I better homed in my situation.

                          My Routine started with a light RK routine because I read in some threads to not force the RKs or push and it should feel natural. I also was working hindi squats just by getting into the squat and thats it. I had started Edging with dry hand and that was an arousal hump to get over because I had IKs with dry and and lube would give me more.

                          My Routine dwindled for probably a month total over the course because of personal things that happened that caused my routine to have gaps. I had tried IT band Stretches with no results so picked up and dropped off that. I inconsistently edged and tennis ball massaged as well but i started the tennis ball massages later.

                          I had tried working some PE techniques that would increase my size but was also said to help stamina. It did start to increase my size but made my penis sensitive and didn't help stamina which was my main concern. So i stopped PE work.

                          So lets get to the real question. If i could go back to day 1, what would I do to fix my issue the fastest.

                          1. Unlock RKs and the PF.
                          When I started the light RKs was probably a good way to start until I unlocked my PF. My PF was so tight it took me like 2 weeks to unlock RKs. I feel like i would progressively workout RKs doing harder and longer holds as your PF unlocks and RKs become easier. RK throughout the day every chance you remember. RK while taking deep belly breaths while walking sitting or anything. I learned I had kegeled and always kept a flexed tense PF all day every day. I had learned to try and keep the PF relaxed and doing RKs throughout the day helped keep it relaxed. Whenever i find myself clenched, I relax and do a few deep belly RKs.

                          2. Learn to Breath: For Sex/Aniety/RKs.
                          Breathing during sex, breathing doing RKs, Breathing to calm yourself.
                          I included Deep belly breathing 3 in 3 hold 3 exhale or 4 4 4. This helps to relax your mind and body. It calms anxiety and allows a full amount of oxygen to get into the lungs. Practice Deep belly breathing and push a RK during the first and second 4 seconds and then relax on the last 4 seconds. Learning to be in control of your breathing during sex will help keep you calm and relaxed.

                          3. Edging (Plateau)
                          Consistently edge 3-4 nights without ejaculation and on the last night finish. While you are edging NEVER kegel to boost arousal because this is just keeping the problem relevant. Work your way up edging learning every which way to control your arousal. Edging really helped me in 2 areas, 1 to get used to the intense sensation and as such was able to edge longer and more intensive working my way up. and 2 Learning how to bring down arousal practicing the arousal control techniques. As I worked my way up, I started to practice holding high arousal and balancing to hold it at a 9 for as long as i can. This rush of high arousal helped me get used to the intense sensation without tipping over.

                          4. The Mind and self awareness.
                          I had discovered my anxiety a bit late into my recovery. I had to really work on not beating myself up about it and to also correct where my mind was overall. I was constantly hearing the negatives and when i would get into bed my anxiety kicked in and then I was scared and thinking only about i'm ganna cum fast.
                          I had worked Breathing, Focusing on the experience, Changed my thoughts to think "Control" not "Cumming fast". Have to really be well aware of tension in muscles and being able to mentally pin point tension and be able to relax and release the built up tension. In the shoulders, legs, face or wherever you can feel yourself tense. Tension is the enemy.
                          - I have also tried supplementing Kava Kava to help relax me and help with anxiety. It seemed to help a little with calming but I mixed it in with the other calming techniques so not sure how much by itself it helps.

                          5. Combo things together
                          a. Though i do believe strongly in Hindi Squats, I feel like the initial benefit is to become flexible enough to get low into the squat. Then when you are low and stretching what feels almost like the middle PF, Do deep belly breathing with RKs. This is a 1 2 3 punch for stretching the PF.
                          b. Breathing Deep lower belly with strong RK at the peak. This helps teach you to breath and rk at the same time.

                          Daily Routine Current.
                          -Quad Stretch 2x a day to keep hip flexors looser. (There is more i can do for APT but have been not focused on it.)
                          -Hindi Squat with Deep Belly Breathing with hard RK holds. 2x a day for about 5mins.
                          -Tennis Ball in the center of my PF 30mins driving to work and 30mins driving home.
                          -RK all day and do Deep breathing RK throughout the day whenever I remember. While walking or sitting.
                          -Edge 3 or 4 times a week. Every time i get close to an edge i slow down and try to slooowly creep up the 8 - 9 - 9.5 and do half strokes or quarter strokes to hold arousal without going to PONR.
                          -Practice Mental control while edging and how breathing calms the mind.
                          -Every other night I do another kind of squat on my back and my feet up on the wall. This wall hindi squat helped me breath deep and really focus the expansion into a deep hard RK.

                          That is it in a nut shell.
                          ACPreE
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                          Last edited by ACPreE; 08-11-2019, 04:45 PM.
                          My PE Thread
                          4/5/19: BPEL 6' MEG 4.5'
                          5/14/19: BPEL 6.45' MEG 4.75'
                          Goal: BPEL 7.5' MEG 5.5'
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                          • When you say RK throuhoug the day, do you mean holding RK or doing many of them throuhoug the day?
                            5/2019 Start: 5,2" NBPEL X 4,35" MEG
                            10/2019 Bundled stretch: 5,6" NBPEL X 4,35"MEG
                            10/2019 - 2/2020 Girth Exersices: on/off and no gains
                            7/2020 Erect stretch: 6,25" NBPEL X 4,35" MEG

                            Short term goal: 7" NBPEL X 5,5" MEG
                            Long term goal: 8" NBPEL X 6,2" MEG

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                            • Originally posted by Anklepain View Post
                              When you say RK throuhoug the day, do you mean holding RK or doing many of them throuhoug the day?
                              What I mean by this is when I remember, often if possible, I relax tension in the pf. Just relaxing like you are relaxing to pee but not to the extent of peeing. That along with doing the breathing rks. And then while walking sometimes i just hold a medium rk push with abs.

                              I guess what I should say about rking all day is a mixture of these rk methods but all work to help keep the pf relaxed loose and stretched.

                              When i intensified with harder more often rks, I started seeing some improvements. That along with the other things helped
                              My PE Thread
                              4/5/19: BPEL 6' MEG 4.5'
                              5/14/19: BPEL 6.45' MEG 4.75'
                              Goal: BPEL 7.5' MEG 5.5'
                              My PreE Thread

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                              • Thanks for the summary, big help

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