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[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

It will brother. Just keep going at it. You're improving more than you think

Thanks man Good to hear that the juggle will get easier. Its a hard concept to believe because i'v never had a time I wasn't shooting off like a spark in a powder keg.
I See you are making some mighty good progress as well! Congratz on that!

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Log Entry: 4/17/2019
Did my morning stretches. My gf was horny today and she wanted me in the shower. There was no foreplay she was already wet when i jumped in with her. We started going right at it and she was moaning and almost screaming .... fooor about 20 seconds. Lets just say she was not pleased when I had to stop. What could have been an amazing sex session ended prematurely as always.

Ended up going to bed early and skipped my night time routine. (was not a good day)

Just out of curiosity, do you guys use condoms or do your wives/gfs use IUDs or the pill? My GF last month said she wanted an IUD but today says no she changed her mind and doesn't want hormones. But she also doesn't like condoms. Hence why we have a 3 year old daughter lol. The pull out method is only as reliable as your control and lets just say i'm not here because i have excellent control.

Thoughts?

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Log Entry: 4/17/2019
Did my morning stretches. My gf was horny today and she wanted me in the shower. There was no foreplay she was already wet when i jumped in with her. We started going right at it and she was moaning and almost screaming .... fooor about 20 seconds. Lets just say she was not pleased when I had to stop. What could have been an amazing sex session ended prematurely as always.

Ended up going to bed early and skipped my night time routine. (was not a good day)

Just out of curiosity, do you guys use condoms or do your wives/gfs use IUDs or the pill? My GF last month said she wanted an IUD but today says no she changed her mind and doesn't want hormones. But she also doesn't like condoms. Hence why we have a 3 year old daughter lol. The pull out method is only as reliable as your control and lets just say i'm not here because i have excellent control.

Thoughts?

Shower sex is always harder for me and is very intense . You should learn your arousal scale better to where you know when your st a 8.5, 9,9.5,9,9 and you have to pull out . This comes from edging and edging and learning your scale . It will help you with real sex because you won’t bust prematurely because if you feel like your super tight from the beginning and are at a 9.9 already you’ll pull out or stop totally to calm down . So once u got to 10 seconds like u said in the shower you should notice that ur very close to PONR and you should back out . Even if you have to just sit there inside the vagina not moving or doing one stroke every 5 seconds it’s okay . Over time you will build stamina. It’s really tough though but you must be super dedicated to fixing this ! You need it in your life !

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

mm ok, i've just been reading all your entries. You have APT. This means your posterior muscles are yanked up high and over -stretched so any stretching of these muscles (hamstrings/glutes/pf) will give you temporary relief as you are promoting blood flow to the area but in fact it isn't healing you.
These muscles all need to be lowered/relaxed. You do this by checking your posture every minute of the day. Before you walk, climb the stairs etc make sure you aren't in APT. Also when doing any stretch.
Secondly, strengthen your abs. The best exercise for this is hollow body, because you can be certain you arent in APT when doing this. When your abs strengthen your mis-aligned pelvis will level, this will relax all your posterior muscles and also lengthen your hip flexors. You could also do some stretches for lengthening your hip flexors but make sure you don't go into ApT when doing this (not even for a second).

When your posterior muscles lower/relax (you will notice change starting to happen within a few days) your ponr will begin to increase.
If you keep edging with APT/tight PF you are just trying to train your body to last longer with dysfunctional muscles. But this isnt the point, the point is to rid yourself of the muscle imbalances and so your ponr will just naturally increase again. Also, if you have hyper-sensitivity of your penis head this will begin to resolve as your muscles relax.
Also, watch your posture when sitting. make sure you are sat on your sitz bones.

When you are totally free of your APT you are then ready to stretch as normal any muscle you want.

The reason you no longer feel a stretch when you squat is because you are trying to stretch even further an already chronically over-stretched muscle.
Again, this might feel good for a short while due to the promotion of blood flow in the area but it isnt healing you. I see this as you are still having issues months after starting your training schedule.

To give you an idea, my pf used to be so bad i would ejaculate within 30 seconds while still flaccid and with each bowel movement i would pass blood as my muscles were so inflamed . But when i implemented everything i wrote for you here it was sorted quickly. You just have to learn the difference between a tight muscle and an over-stretched muscle.

Now i am better i do some rk's to relax the area. But absolutely don't do these while your have APT.

I keep telling people on here that the healing process is completely different dependent if you have APT or not.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Shower sex is always harder for me and is very intense . You should learn your arousal scale better to where you know when your st a 8.5, 9,9.5,9,9 and you have to pull out . This comes from edging and edging and learning your scale . It will help you with real sex because you won’t bust prematurely because if you feel like your super tight from the beginning and are at a 9.9 already you’ll pull out or stop totally to calm down . So once u got to 10 seconds like u said in the shower you should notice that ur very close to PONR and you should back out . Even if you have to just sit there inside the vagina not moving or doing one stroke every 5 seconds it’s okay . Over time you will build stamina. It’s really tough though but you must be super dedicated to fixing this ! You need it in your life !

I have learned the scale and I can identify the arousal level, i guess i was more ranting about the fact Iv been at this for months and very little progress has been made. I can feel when i'm getting close but it was maybe just a handful of seconds more then when i started. I figured shower sex would be easier because its easier to RK while standing but maybe its because of the positions that make it more intense and tilt the pelvis. Think as Paul suggested i'm going to put in a lot more effort into APT.

mm ok, i've just been reading all your entries. You have APT. This means your posterior muscles are yanked up high and over -stretched so any stretching of these muscles (hamstrings/glutes/pf) will give you temporary relief as you are promoting blood flow to the area but in fact it isn't healing you.
These muscles all need to be lowered/relaxed. You do this by checking your posture every minute of the day. Before you walk, climb the stairs etc make sure you aren't in APT. Also when doing any stretch.
Secondly, strengthen your abs. The best exercise for this is hollow body, because you can be certain you arent in APT when doing this. When your abs strengthen your mis-aligned pelvis will level, this will relax all your posterior muscles and also lengthen your hip flexors. You could also do some stretches for lengthening your hip flexors but make sure you don't go into ApT when doing this (not even for a second).

When your posterior muscles lower/relax (you will notice change starting to happen within a few days) your ponr will begin to increase.
If you keep edging with APT/tight PF you are just trying to train your body to last longer with dysfunctional muscles. But this isnt the point, the point is to rid yourself of the muscle imbalances and so your ponr will just naturally increase again. Also, if you have hyper-sensitivity of your penis head this will begin to resolve as your muscles relax.
Also, watch your posture when sitting. make sure you are sat on your sitz bones.

When you are totally free of your APT you are then ready to stretch as normal any muscle you want.

The reason you no longer feel a stretch when you squat is because you are trying to stretch even further an already chronically over-stretched muscle.
Again, this might feel good for a short while due to the promotion of blood flow in the area but it isnt healing you. I see this as you are still having issues months after starting your training schedule.

To give you an idea, my pf used to be so bad i would ejaculate within 30 seconds while still flaccid and with each bowel movement i would pass blood as my muscles were so inflamed . But when i implemented everything i wrote for you here it was sorted quickly. You just have to learn the difference between a tight muscle and an over-stretched muscle.

Now i am better i do some rk's to relax the area. But absolutely don't do these while your have APT.

I keep telling people on here that the healing process is completely different dependent if you have APT or not.

Thank you for taking the time to help. After I started getting no feeling or light stretching in the PF, I kind of figured it was something else. How do you figure it is chronically over stretched? I figured it was tight because it did take me a week or so to release the PF to do RKs. Figured that was a sign of tight PF, that along with kegeling to masturbate since i was really young.

I had identified i had APT couple weeks back with the help of @Willgetbetter but I guess i didn't quite understand how dramatic the importance of it vs RKs. I just recently started implementing a more serious twice a day routine for stretching the hip flexers with the bent leg against a flat wall in lunge position. I really feel a tiiiiight stretch there. I also do a back stretch for 5 or so mins the from a bench sit and stretch to your feet. I'll start incorporating ab work as well. Do you think i should focus on fixing APT before i go back to Edging then?

Along with the Hollow Body crunch, would you suggest doing situps or other ab exercises to accompany this one? Before we had our daughter I actually had strong abs doing inverted situps with 45lb weight on chest but since then iv let myself go. Got a desk job as IT and most of my day is at the desk.

Appreciate all the help guys you have no idea.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

It is over-stretched because with APT your posterior muscles become super tight. Yep leg against wall in lunge position is great as long as you don't arch your back.
Hollow body is fantastic as if you do it properly your back stays flat on the floor and you will know instantly if you go slightly into APT. For this reason i wouldnt be doing sit-ups at the moment. Its a fantastic exercise, it is the staple for gymnasts to develop core strength. It will also develop your deep core muscles which sit ups won't.
You will find when you fix your APT you won't or shouldn't need to edge. As all your posterior muscles will have fallen/relaxed.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

to prove my point you could try this.
Get a couple of dressing gown cords and tie them tightly around your abs for an hour or two. You will find that this temporarily helps re-align your pelvis and if you edge you will find you can last longer.
This works because the cords are doing the work for your weak ab muscles. Your abs and obliques are like a corset, they stabilize your PF. Without this stability coupled with tight flexors then you have APT, PE, IK's , hip pain - the list goes on!

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

It is over-stretched because with APT your posterior muscles become super tight. Yep leg against wall in lunge position is great as long as you don't arch your back.
Hollow body is fantastic as if you do it properly your back stays flat on the floor and you will know instantly if you go slightly into APT. For this reason i wouldnt be doing sit-ups at the moment. Its a fantastic exercise, it is the staple for gymnasts to develop core strength. It will also develop your deep core muscles which sit ups won't.
You will find when you fix your APT you won't or shouldn't need to edge. As all your posterior muscles will have fallen/relaxed.

I see. Ya I always make sure to correct the tilt while doing the leg against the wall one because i feel a much deeper stretch and i want to make sure I'm getting a good stretch and not half assing it.

Was watching a youtube demonstration on Hollow body crunches and they look like they incorporate a crunch and leg lifts. Looks like i can work on my 6 pack with this as well. well I don't have one but this may help XD.

Really appreciate the help man. You have given me some serious confidence that i'll see results once my full APT routine starts rolling.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

you will get great results from the hollow body. As well as working the rectus abdominis (six pack) more importantly it will work your transverse abdominis. This is the muscle for true core strength. Just make sure your back stays flat on the ground.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

you will get great results from the hollow body. As well as working the rectus abdominis (six pack) more importantly it will work your transverse abdominis. This is the muscle for true core strength. Just make sure your back stays flat on the ground.

Will do. I'll start working harder on the apt and write in the log, I guess for general progress updates. I have a spreadsheet I'm keeping my routine down in. Will report back, Thanks

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Log Entry: 4/22/2019

My god. Been working on APT a lot while still doing my RK routine and might I say, I haven't felt this kind of burn in a while. I do like 3 sets of 15 Hollow Body crunches and man i can feel it haha. That with stretches and squats i feel like i might as well be at a PreE yoga class/gym class. It would be interesting to host a PreE Class. One that would go through all the stretches and exercises but maybe it would make it weird, a class of PreE people in person.

None the less, I can really feel now why, in the hindi squat, i always felt like i was falling backwards. If you have tight Hams, you wont be able to do a flat foot hindi squat. Now that I have been working on stretching my legs, I don't need the support of the wall anymore. My flexibility is improving and correcting my posture all the time is starting to leave my back with some soreness. That could also be the burn from trying to keep my pelvis positioned correctly while doing hollow bodies. It is a muscle burn so maybe i'm doing something right.

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Log Entry: 4/27/2019

So doing PE with PreE routine is making me extra horny. Last night my gf and I went at it 4 times. Each time was about 1-2mins of very slow sex. Don't get me wrong she was extremely loving it and had to push me out after she finished because it was too much sensation for her.

The fastest time, after going down on her i still only lasted like 20 seconds of slow thrusting when she went on her side. It was tight and no matter what I did, i couldn't lower my arousal. My PF felt tight and locked. I tried adjusting my pelvis and breathing slowly while trying to do a RK. My RK wouldn't even budge again. I originally thought it was the tilt of my pelvis but when I adjusted I couldn't RK at all.

I'm hoping that with the addition of core workouts and APT work that it will get better but I have to figure out how to unlock the RK when they lock up during sex. I can't just go to the floor and start doing hindi squats lol

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

I had one time where I was caught off guard during sex and couldn't do a RK. I had been tying my RKs to my belly breathing (breathe in, RKs, breathe out). I did a bunch of ab work one week. During sex, my abs were so tight that I couldn't do a belly breath. A few days of doing the cobra stretch fixed things for me that time.

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It seems to be when I'm really aroused my pf just locks. I was trying to do lower belly breathing while trying to rk and made sure my pelvis was correct and nothing. Couldnt feel a drop or relaxing at all. It's like how can you apply the techniques when they dont work during the real deal.

Idk if I just need more time to work the core workouts or just push harder on stretching the pf but I certainly will be pushing both harder. I still cant rk to drop an erection so maybe I just need more work at it.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Daamn, I have been following your thread and posts and it seems you have been working alot but havent have good success. I was expecting and hoping you have more improvement but its sad to hear that this is not easy and time consuming. I also have been hard working on this but dont even get pussy to tryi. Do you guys think if one can fuck fleshlight as long as he want, does it mean he is cured. I read somewhere long time ago that somehow its still different in terms of lasting between real sex and fleshlight. Im thingking to buy fleshlight.