Posterior pelvic tilt and premature ejaculatuon

[Spoonman84 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Spoonman84]

So there is a lot of talk lately with Anterior pelvic tilt and premature ejaculatuon APT,. But I had/have PE but posterior pelvic tilt so I'm curious of anybody else that had both PE and PPT has there is a lot less information on that subject.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

How is your ability to RK?

[Spoonman84 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Spoonman84]

It's OK I guess . I struggled for a while at first to be able to do them. I've put in a bit of work over the years and still struggle them sometimes. I've never found really any success with them in any fashion on surpressing ejaculatuon like others can.

[Spoonman84 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Spoonman84]

I figure I would give this a little bump and see if we can get more input.

From my research over the years on PE and other things, In starting to think that with posterior pelvic tilt Kegels might be more effective than reverse or more pelvic floor strength and tightness is what needed.

On the opposite side people with anterior pelvic tilt are the ones that seem to complain the most about pelvic floor spasms and over tightness.I have/had premature ejaculatuon, but never really that issue. So I my head if Anterior is making everything overly tight, then my theory is the with posterior is probably needs more tightness and strength.

I came to this conclusion from doing kegels standing. A family member of mine had prostate cancer and the dr told him to do kegels laying down, sitting and standing. I tried to do all 3 out of curiosity since I only done usually sitting. I noticed when I do them standing it's hard to get a decent contraction. When I anteriorly (stick out my butt) I could get a much stronger contraction. Much like when sitting down properly I assume puts my pelvic floor in an anterior and shortened position. And since most people with anterior tight pelvic floor issues that are kegels are probably doing them sitting anyway is probably making it worse. So if you have anterior tilt and trying to do kegels maybe do them standing might be more beneficial to prevent over tightness?

I can squat deep and for a long time and RK fine but never found much difference in dealing with PE from them. I have had success over the years with PE but I think that is more to do with death grip and plateu edging and reconditioning my self more than the squatting and RK. I still suffer from the occasional bout of PE, but my biggest issues today are frequent urinating, sometimes dribbling and rather weak erections. So im going to do a rather intense kegel routine. I will still squat but much more minimally. I don't want to give it up completely because I think beyond pelvic floor it's great for your body to do.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

As far as my understanding goes (currently have APT but getting better) If the pelvis is not in a level position it will put excess tension on the PF if it be a Posterior or Anterior pelvic tilt. I have been trying to play around with Pelvic tilt / ab tension and RKs to kind of get a real understanding of what tensions are being created and released. They all seem connected.

So APT causes your gut to protrude forward. This causes a lot of people to inadvertently suck in their stomach/create tension on their abs. This tension pulls up on the front pf. The front PF RKs is what has shown to have the most success in dropping and controlling arousal.
Also I feel my weak core/abs that are supposed to act as a counter pull on the pelvis are too weak and cant support the counter pull from the quads. This adds tension because of this downward pull from the quads.

For PPT id assume it is working in the other extreme. Still creating uneven tension on the Pelvis that causes the Pelvic floor to be forced in a position it is not supposed to be in. In my mind a visual would look something like you have rope being held on both sides with a little slack in the middle. Now if one side pulls more, the rope tightens and the slack goes away.

I could be completely wrong as i'm not an expert but that is what I have come to understand.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Hmmm.

[ffuu Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ffuu]

I'd like to add something to the topic. Yesterday I found interesting photo of Male urogenital system. Here is link:

http://i66.tinypic.com/1zcdfsn.jpg

I marked 2 interesting things (bones) a pubic symphysis and coccyx. Now look at the distance of anal hole- it is closer to the coccyx.

http:/fi68.tinypic.com/2d9pez8.jpg


Now look at that photo:

http://i65.tinypic.com/1zfo9s8.jpg

that is exactly what I feel when I touch my pelvic floor. The anal hole is closer to the pubic symphysis and the coccyx is far away...
The prostate gland feels like it is hidden above the pubic symphysis, I can feel it only by putting finger into my ass and it is above the pubic.

Am I wrong or this is exactly an effect of the APT, or just a schemat mistake?
Is it possible that with APT, our pelvic (bones) are anteriory tilted but the organs inside trying to be on the correct position?

I think I ve got little APT, I am sitting mostly through the day, I have lower back pain, but I haven't got a "Donald's duck" butt.
I have problem with speeding up urine, and I can't separate Reverse Kegel vs. rear reverse kegel. Doing Reverse kegel while peeing speed up the pee flow only little bit and I always feel like my shit would like to go out too. And vice versa.

Is this how a pressure on a normal healthy male reverse kegel should be applied?

http://i63.tinypic.com/28arsw4.jpg

And unhealthy RK, blocked by pubic?

http://i65.tinypic.com/67kwon.jpg

[Bobsadcock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bobsadcock]

I have similar experience to you. I used to have pretty bad pre e, but do have better control now.

Plateau edging helped me, but my pf was also pretty tight, so I also needed to loosen it. Ten minute deep squat with rk was a break through in terms of loosening.

These days though I have to lay off the squat + rk, or i can straight up kill my boners.

I wonder if it would be possible to get my pf strong enough that it can withstand long deep squats without eq loss again. Because even though I don't think I have pre e anymore, my control is far from perfect.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

I had posted a little bit about that on my thread a while back. When i first started doing RKs, i thought i was doing them right until a night i got high and edged and was trying all sorts of different pushing and feeling to see what i could do with muscle memory. That was when I figured out I wasn't doing as good front RK as i thought.

https://imgur.com/a/ngx26cD
Originally i was feeling the RK in the green but then when testing i was able to move the feeling further forward and felt the red push out and that was where i felt the biggest drop in arousal.

https://imgur.com/a/Em0FO9H
In this one RKs in the blue area was best, green wasn't bad but wasn't the best. Yellow and pink is moving into the back RK area.


Adding onto your APT idea, I fully agree. If the pelvis is off, everything it is supporting is off from its natural orientation too.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Hmm is me thinking .

Thing is I have been in this area awhile so I see a lot that is downright boring and sends me to sleep.

Hmm.

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

I'm still not sure if I'm doing RKs right. I'm definitely expanding my pf, but dropping arousal hardly happens - my glans weirdly fills with blood without the rest of my penis getting harder. And I get huge veins too.

From a physiological standpoint, doing a RK allows the pf to relax and to send some of the blood that is trapped back down, right?

(btw great comment, Pegasus)

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Hmm is me thinking .

Thing is I have been in this area awhile so I see a lot that is downright boring and sends me to sleep.

Hmm.

Not sure I understand, are you interested or bored Lol

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I was explaining I am interested.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Kind of wish I had the equipment to do like an xray scan or something to see how the insides change for apt or ppt. I only have the outside perspective.

[PE_Hell Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Hell]

I had posted a little bit about that on my thread a while back. When i first started doing RKs, i thought i was doing them right until a night i got high and edged and was trying all sorts of different pushing and feeling to see what i could do with muscle memory. That was when I figured out I wasn't doing as good front RK as i thought.

https://imgur.com/a/ngx26cD
Originally i was feeling the RK in the green but then when testing i was able to move the feeling further forward and felt the red push out and that was where i felt the biggest drop in arousal.

https://imgur.com/a/Em0FO9H
In this one RKs in the blue area was best, green wasn't bad but wasn't the best. Yellow and pink is moving into the back RK area.


Adding onto your APT idea, I fully agree. If the pelvis is off, everything it is supporting is off from its natural orientation too.

rks dont make my arousal go down

the only thing that does it is to stop at the right time, then wait.. but i cannot delay the momoent IKs start, it happens to fast