Failed to control ejaculation.

[Hussain Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hussain]

When you are near PONR. The movement you realize you are about to ejaculate. You contract your pc muscle to hold ejaculation but you still ejaculate. What does it mean?

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

it means your Pc muscles aren't stronger then the reflex to push the cum out.

[Hussain Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hussain]

Is there any other way to know whether my PC muscle strong or weak?

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

So you can flex it right? how strong do you think it is? If you aren't strong enough to stop yourself from ejaculating then it isn't strong enough to do MMO. You can do Kegel exercises but if you have preE it can make it worse.

[Hussain Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hussain]

I can feel the muscle & can hold that muscle.
but I never understood the concept of kegel & how kegel control reflex of ejaculation.
I can masturbate for hours therefore I consider that don't have any preE problem.

[Hussain Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hussain]

Can you stop the ejaculation by performing kegel?
Can you share you success rate with kegel? Is it 100% or it depends on strength of reflex?

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

So it depends but its not 100% at least not for me. Sometimes i have pulses from the PONR that hit harder then my kegel hold and some cum comes out. I can do it successfully almost every time as long as im flexing my lower abs and kegeling as hard as possible. I need to stop thrusting and all movement for 10 seconds before i can continue. You can stop the ejaculation and will be put in a smaller refractory phase that after will allow you to keep going as if you already came and its round 2 but much faster turn around.

If you don't have preE and are happy with your stamina, you can start a kegeling routine that works to strengthen that muscle. As you get better at flexing it the more you will be able to see how how much strength your kegel needs to be before you can stop the ejaculation. Obviously only practice this during masturbation and dont over train. Eventually you will be able to get to the PONR, Kegel and feel the IKs but no cum.

Disclaimer though, depending on your refractory period Kegel holds at PONR can drop your EQ because your arousal sharply drops. If you have a longer refractory time this may cut down your recovery time but you may still need to get your arousal back up before your erection is back at 100%

[Hussain Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hussain]

Thanks for the help. Will analyse the pointers you mentioned.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

No problem. And if you need help with kegel routines there are actual apps that can help. Or you can make one yourself. Lots of short flexes and then long holds and work up in reps.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Ok trying to do dry orgasm and mmo as though it is a trick rather than a skill not only usually results in failure but is dangerous ,

Here is is the onsite kegel training routine that is used as PART of mmo training please note the forward that advises on rk .

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...asm-guide.html

With proper training dry orgasm can result in essentially 0 refrac time .

I advise against attempting this as though it is a trick , we have a club onsite that goves training advice on this .

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Ok trying to do dry orgasm and mmo as though it is a trick rather than a skill not only usually results in failure but is dangerous

Feel like a trick is like pulling down on your balls to last longer. Kegeling to stop ejaculation, in order to work and be effective, is a trained skill. It will take work to get right. Like getting that nice 6 pack, got gimmics and tricks everywhere you look but the only thing that turely works is a proper exercise routine.

Agree though with you Pegasus. Some see 200lbs and want to lift it but unless they are trained, they will surely hurt themselves trying if they can only lift 100lbs.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Feel like a trick is like pulling down on your balls to last longer. Kegeling to stop ejaculation, in order to work and be effective, is a trained skill. It will take work to get right. Like getting that nice 6 pack, got gimmics and tricks everywhere you look but the only thing that turely works is a proper exercise routine.

Agree though with you Pegasus. Some see 200lbs and want to lift it but unless they are trained, they will surely hurt themselves trying if they can only lift 100lbs.

Yes it is a trainable skill , Unfortunatly people want to do it like a trick . You learn the secret to a trick and you can do it . Of course the problem with this is twofold it doesn;t work and there is injury risk.

You want mmo train for it is the takeaway message.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

There are no shortcuts in this field. It be MMO, PE or PreE.

[Hussain Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hussain]

I belief shortcuts exist.
Today I was experimenting with soft style edging & fucking like porn star edging. I can say combination is best. I was feeling like never stop it.
I had control over my ejaculation reflex than ever before.
I can raise towel with my erection, therefore was kegeling like lifting towel near PONR.