log for consistency

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

So depressingly enough this is my third go around with a log. Been around the community for a while and never truly got in control of my PE problems. I won't go into my history with PE just that I've never been able to last as long as I want going at a continued pace, just stop and go. I'm hoping the people here who have tried and beat PE can help me finally beat PE with just their experiences. I think my biggest thing is just staying consistent working on PE at minimum 4 days a week for several months to really know if I can beat this thing or not.

My symptoms of PE include:
APT (think I fixed this)
Tight pelvic floor while edging (feels like theirs an entire knot in my perineum)
IK's
hitting ponr very early in edging.

My routine will consist of:
edging 4x a week
stretches 2 x a day, 5-7x a week
Tennis ball stretches 15 minutes x 3 a day, 5-7x a week
RK's, whenever I can remember

With edging I do have a STU but I hit ponr within a minute or two. Today I'll count as my first day in my log. I edged and it didn't go well. My perineum didn't feel as tight as normal but I wasn't able to edge in the STU for more than about 20 seconds without getting. I read from the Pre E 90day course and tried to get my breathing rk's and stroke together but it did not work. The IKs I get when entering the STU are much much stronger than me RKing at this point. One thing I really need to try to do is get my breathing and stroke speed down. I have this weird issue where if I don't maintain a certain speed when edging I lose my erection. I think this maybe have to do with all the years of watching porn (which I don't watch when I edge) so after a few slow strokes my fear of me losing my erection makes me speed up.

If anybody has any questions off top they can think of that might help me get my pre e problem turned around please ask away! I can't think of anything else at the moment.

[Formywifey Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Formywifey]

Hi RalphPhoLauren

Same here, I was literally at PONR within seconds of starting before finding this forum.

My first go at proper edging yesterday I took advice from this forum in that each stroke should last 2 seconds or more, and one in every 3-5 strokes should be a full length stroke. I started limp and the PONR took a while (6-8 minutes?) going at this unusual slow speed. I was at an 8 or 9 the whole time though and it took concentration with RK to keep it at bay.

Good on you for starting, I’m sure we will both crack it

[Formywifey Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Formywifey]

Also I have a kind of head start as I’ve been using a great app daily for standard kegal training. On IPhone only it’s called ‘Kegal Camp by Sex with Emily’ and i believe it’s free. I only really learned about RK yesterday so I do them whilst standing or walking at work.

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

Just a quick update, so far i've edged monday, tuesday and today. My last two sessions were pretty good and I was able to last a few minutes without hitting ponr in a total of 10 minutes. My pelvic floor is still pretty hard but not as hard as the past weeks. Ik's have also gone down a tad when I enter the STU. Not able to combat them though with RK's yet. Just have to get more consistent with my stretches really!

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

The kegel camp you have been doing is that standard kegels? If so they are counter productive with PE.
If you've had (or have) apt then your problem is muscle imbalances, and you will only solve this by fully correcting these muscle imbalances and so edging is going to do little until you have done this.
So why do you have these imbalances? What is your sitting, standing and walking posture? Have you now weak glutes/abs?
It is a whole body issue, your pelvic floor area is just where the main symptoms are.
As you correct the imbalances the pe and ik's will begin diminishing.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

The kegel camp you have been doing is that standard kegels? If so they are counter productive with PE.
If you've had (or have) apt then your problem is muscle imbalances, and you will only solve this by fully correcting these muscle imbalances and so edging is going to do little until you have done this.
So why do you have these imbalances? What is your sitting, standing and walking posture? Have you now weak glutes/abs?
It is a whole body issue, your pelvic floor area is just where the main symptoms are.
As you correct the imbalances the pe and ik's will begin diminishing.

Exactly. Make sure you did in fact fix your APT. There are many things that are in play and we need to make sure we are aware of them all.

Want to make sure the core/lower abs are strong, quads are stretched (pulls back APT)
Make sure you aren't sucking in your gut, this can cause tension on the Front pelvic floor.
Breath with your lower belly, this pushes down on the PF.
Also have to be aware of mental influences. This can be any anxiety, stress or depression. Also thinking about cumming fast will make you cum fast. The reason most of us have PreE is because we let our body and minds go to shit when it comes to Sex/Masturbation.

I have almost exactly the same routine you have there and did it for months without affecting my time. It gave me tools to help lower arousal but they were unaffective because of the other issues I later discovered. I found out later that I have APT and started quad stretches. Still didn't see a change in time. Found out I had performance anxiety that built up without me even noticing. I added core/lower ab workouts to my gym routine along with mentally trying to change my attitude from damn i'm going to cum fast to telling myself to relax and I can last as long as I want.

Last night I saw some real progress because of what would normally only take 10-15seconds I lasted 2-3minutes receiving a BJ. I do believe in all the steps you have in your routine but I'd also add Hallow body crunches (I shoot for 80-100 per session) and be aware of how you are mentally. Do you have the right mindset when you go at it?

All things have their place in this Body/Mind Balance.

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

Thank you all for your knowledge and encouragement. Didn't have the privacy to edge last week as I went out of town but i'm back on it today! Took me about a minute to get to ponr so I tried hard to relax and control my breathing by taking deep breaths. Was able to get to a point where I could go a few strokes without having to stop but still had lots of IKs and my pelvic floor was tight. I just have to remind myself to enjoy the process and things will go much smoother.

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

Hello All,

Took a mini hiatus but I realize I need to come back and post here to hold myself accountable. So just to catch up been edging 3-4 times a week so far these past 4 weeks. I want to go a week then add 2 more minutes to each edging session until I get to 20 minutes. So far i'm at 10 minutes with the STU. Starting this upcoming week will be at 12. Still have to get discplined with my stretching as well as hindi squats. Also a question, what all do I need to do so I can push my edging sessions so that It takes me longer to hit PONR?

[nofun Member Find all posts View Profile Close nofun]

Want to make sure the core/lower abs are strong, quads are stretched (pulls back APT)
Make sure you aren't sucking in your gut, this can cause tension on the Front pelvic floor.
Breath with your lower belly, this pushes down on the PF.
Also have to be aware of mental influences. This can be any anxiety, stress or depression. Also thinking about cumming fast will make you cum fast. The reason most of us have PreE is because we let our body and minds go to shit when it comes to Sex/Masturbation.

Just a minor thing: Did you mean to write "Quads are stretched" or "Hamstrings"? There are so many information out here, that there is confusion everywhere. I never payed attention to stretching but to strengthening the quads.

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

Hello just a quick update and question

Been going for about a month now edging and have finally gotten up to 15 minutes. My goal next week is to go to 18 minutes then 20 the next week. I have seen myself take a little bit longer to get to ponr or right before that so I guess things will come surely but slowly. One thing I want to ask is for the month of October I want to try not ejaculating at all when I edge. Do you guys think that would hurt my results as far as overcoming PE or maybe help it? let me know what y'all think.

[upuratinario Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close upuratinario]

Hello just a quick update and question

Been going for about a month now edging and have finally gotten up to 15 minutes. My goal next week is to go to 18 minutes then 20 the next week. I have seen myself take a little bit longer to get to ponr or right before that so I guess things will come surely but slowly. One thing I want to ask is for the month of October I want to try not ejaculating at all when I edge. Do you guys think that would hurt my results as far as overcoming PE or maybe help it? let me know what y'all think.

If you look at my log, you will see I too attempted this semen retention for a while, and it actually did not help. After you ejaculate, if you do a medium RK you will see so much pressure compared to when you didnt ejaculate.
Ejaculation as a single act isn't a bad thing to do when edging, if your edging session is long enough. Like in real sex, you foreplay, you have sex for ... 20 minutes ( wishful thinking ) and then you ejaculate. It's the process of ejaculating AFTER a nice amount of time that you want to teach your brain, not on the first strokes.

If we leave Pre E aside, in my particular case, I've seen a lot of benefits from semen retention. These include deeper voice, denser beard, hair, clearer face, eliminated fatigue and brain fog. THis of course comes compared to stupid masturbatory habbits where I would ejaculate even 3 times in a day. So effects where easy to see in my case.
It;s just that i don;t think it;s beneficial to Pre E or not at this stage anyway.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Just a minor thing: Did you mean to write "Quads are stretched" or "Hamstrings"? There are so many information out here, that there is confusion everywhere. I never payed attention to stretching but to strengthening the quads.

Strengthen core/abs, stretch your Quads and stretch your lower back. Look at the pelvis and look at the muscles that hold it level. When you have APT your pelvis front dips down. That is because the core isn't strong enough to hold it up and your tight quads pull it down. The same forces pull on the back of the pelvis. Balance the muscles pulling on the pelvis and you fix your APT. This relieves tension on the Pelvic floor.