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[ImPumped Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ImPumped]

So what's up guys. I'm 24 years old and dealing with PE all my life. It probably started with bad mastrubation habits (kegeling all the time) and in combination with my APT this had led to some seriour PF tightness. Before ever having sex I was pretty sure I wouldn't last long with a girl, since I couldn't even last longer than 2 minutes mastrubating. This came to be true and during my 6 month relationship I probably always finished within 30 seconds of penetration. During this relationship I've lurked around this forum and tried fixing my problem with just edging. Unfortunately, although my edging sessions did get better, it never translated to sex. After my relationship ended I didn't have any sex as I was super anxious to bust quick again.

Last week, after a month of 10 minute+ edging sessions I thought I'd give it another try and hooked up with this girl. As you expected, this didn't go well and I came within 30 seconds of entering. The next day was quite depressing and I pretty much spent the entire day lurking on the internet for a solution. Man I have to say, the internet gives a man with PE no hope. After a few hours of only getting more depressed with all the non-solutions I stumbled on this forum again and this changed everything. I read about APT being a real cause of PE, which gave me incredible motivation to start fixing my APT and with that my lifelong PE.


TLDR: After having PE for my entire life, I think I've finally found a solution. Fix my APT, RK to relax my PF. Let me take you along on my journey. I'm super pumped to finally deal with this sh*t.


So... below will be my routine for the next 2 months. I'll set some goals, update you daily. Looking forward to feedback, suggestions or questions.


Current state:

• I'm fit, 24 years old, went to the gym 5 times a week for the past 3-4 years
• APT is quite severe and my abs are pretty weak (thought I didn't have to isolate them as long as I did heavy squats and deadlifts, which is probably bad advice in most cases)
• My hip flexors are very tight. Hindi squats feel very uncomfortable and it's painful to hold them for longer than 1 minute.
• My PE sucks bad, but I don't think sexual anxiety plays a major role in my PE. I can stay pretty relaxed (in my head) when having sex.

Daily:

• Whenever I think about it I'll try to keep a light RK in order to loosen my PF-area.
• Twice a day: 5 minutes of deep belly breathing and pushing out a RK on breathing in.
• As many Hindi squats as possible. Trying to aim for at least 5 sets of 1 minute a day.
• Half an hour of yoga stretches for my pelvic floor combined with exercises for my core. (Yes planning on stretching every day and doing my core exercises (planks and leg raises) daily. Will perform them after my gym session 3 times a week and 3 times at home.
• Deadlifts or Hip Thrusts and Leg Curls 3 times a week in order to strenghten my posterior chain. This should help in fixing my APT.

Edging

• After my stretches and ab workout at home (3 times a day) I'm planning on edging for at least 20 minutes. I won't use porn at all and only ejaculate once a week (or maybe not at all in order to avoid my PF from tensing up after cuming).

Let's do this! Tonight will be my first edging session. I'll make my first daily update after this.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Welcome aboard the recovery train.

Sounds like you have a solid plan. Fixing APT will help RKs and the better and stronger you can RK will help as you go. Also make sure to progress your edging as well. Once you gain some control and can simmer your arousal, try working into plateau edging and holding the higher levels of arousal for as long as possible.

I know you don't think anxiety plays much of a roll but i beg to differ. Mindset plays a big part if we like it or not. I didn't have anxiety when my PreE started ramping up, I got it after I started lasting only a couple pumps. Anxiety didn't cause my preE but it sure plays its roll in holding me there.

The best sex iv had since was last weekend and my mindset was in the right place. I was relaxed and focused on her. Too often i'm focused only on the arousal and controlling it that i end up pushing myself to the PONR by just thinking of it.

Physically, definitely do your core workouts, I do Hollow body crunches and quad stretching couple times a day. If hindi squats are too difficult, another thing you can do is laying on your back and putting your butt close or against a wall. Place your feet flat about the height a 90degree angle would be made but your butt is closer to the wall so its more acute angle instead. From this position iv been able to really push some good RKs.

You may need to loosen up and unlock the region some more before this but its pretty effective for me.

Also while doing the breathing exercises make sure when you take a deep breath and fill your lungs, start to push a RK and max the push at the full breath. Hold for 3-4 seconds and exhale for 3-4 seconds. Make sure to release the RK during the exhale. This will start to train your breathing to relax the PF and it will help during sex.

Training and real sex are 2 separate planets.
This is why i feel like some of the training doesn't translate over. If you edge and you are on your back or relaxed and legs open and absolutely no pressure from anyone but yourself. You have just made yourself as relaxed as you can and now you can edge and control your arousal and last 15-30mins but only 30 seconds in sex.
Its conditioning and practice then putting everything into play in the bedroom.

Last note, you will have setbacks. Just keep pushing through and stay dedicated.

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First of all, I don't think this thread will be really intresting when updated daily, since I don't expect any significant results over night. Therefore, I'll just update once or twice a week.


ACPreE! Thanks for your elaborate comment! Really useful and a real boost for my motivation! Read your 'My PE Log', probably multiple times. Real inspiration!


Completely agree with your mindset argument. I know how hard it is to enjoy the feeling of sex and focus on her, while still being anxious of comming too soon.


As you said, plateau edging is something I'd like to get better at. I've just finished my 20 minute edging session (dind't ejaculate as planned) but I felt like there was nothing in between arousal level 5 and PONR. So hopefully there's some great progress to be made there.
To summarize my edging session. Went really slow with the imagination, but felt like as soon as I incorporated sexy thoughts I could hit the PONR in no time and IK's started kicking in. Probably reached PONR within 5 minutes not even going hard at it.


As of the rest of my routine. Did everything as planned with probably around 7 sets of Hindi squats. The last set did already feel slightly better, so I'll just keep doing these throughout my day.


I think it's also I great moment to set some goals. I'll start slowly


1 week goals:
- Hindi squats: 2 minute holds without too much pain
- Edging: Being able to at least find arousal level 6-9 for a few minutes.


1 month goals:
- First of all I'd like to just be straight about my problem with the girl I'm hooking up with, as that should remove alot of anxiety.
- Become a minuteman by adding 30 seconds to sex (basicly not busting after 8 thrusts). I really hope I can laugh about this goal in the future.


If you guys have any feedback, that will be extremely appriciated. AcPreE, thanks again for your response. And I'll check in with you all the day after tomorrow.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

First of all, I don't think this thread will be really intresting when updated daily, since I don't expect any significant results over night. Therefore, I'll just update once or twice a week.


ACPreE! Thanks for your elaborate comment! Really useful and a real boost for my motivation! Read your 'My PE Log', probably multiple times. Real inspiration!


Completely agree with your mindset argument. I know how hard it is to enjoy the feeling of sex and focus on her, while still being anxious of comming too soon.


As you said, plateau edging is something I'd like to get better at. I've just finished my 20 minute edging session (dind't ejaculate as planned) but I felt like there was nothing in between arousal level 5 and PONR. So hopefully there's some great progress to be made there.
To summarize my edging session. Went really slow with the imagination, but felt like as soon as I incorporated sexy thoughts I could hit the PONR in no time and IK's started kicking in. Probably reached PONR within 5 minutes not even going hard at it.


As of the rest of my routine. Did everything as planned with probably around 7 sets of Hindi squats. The last set did already feel slightly better, so I'll just keep doing these throughout my day.


I think it's also I great moment to set some goals. I'll start slowly


1 week goals:
- Hindi squats: 2 minute holds without too much pain
- Edging: Being able to at least find arousal level 6-9 for a few minutes.


1 month goals:
- First of all I'd like to just be straight about my problem with the girl I'm hooking up with, as that should remove alot of anxiety.
- Become a minuteman by adding 30 seconds to sex (basicly not busting after 8 thrusts). I really hope I can laugh about this goal in the future.


If you guys have any feedback, that will be extremely appriciated. AcPreE, thanks again for your response. And I'll check in with you all the day after tomorrow.

If you can get away with it, get a girl to suck you off for a good while before attempting sex. Its not as intense as sex, and can give you a real shot at getting all that sensation under control before attempting having sex (suggest starting with her on top).

In terms of APT and core part, despite that stretching abs would be counterproductive to fixing APT, working out the core and then giving it a good cobra stretch, will help PE.

Also you mentioned that Hindi's are painful, can you go into more detail? Like how low do you go, do your heels tend to come off the floor, do you round your back, do you feel any pain at the front hip etc...

A guy that regularly hits the gym should, if training properly, have the flexibility to stay in a bottom squat position for much longer than 1 min I would say.

I also agree that anxiety never played a part of my PE. However thats something only you can know and reflect on as this will be different for everyone depending on your sexual experience I guess.

May I suggest a better way to edge as well... Get yourself a fleshlight, trap it in between the mattress & and the bed, or somewhere like that, and edge by having to thrust into it. It will be much more challenging than edging with just lube etc just because of the thrusting part alone, and will be a much better benchmark of the progress. Also, if you are unable to last during edging like that, then you can safely conclude that your PE isn't anxiety based.... Unless you feel anxious about fucking a piece of wet rubber somehow.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

If you can get away with it, get a girl to suck you off for a good while before attempting sex. Its not as intense as sex, and can give you a real shot at getting all that sensation under control before attempting having sex (suggest starting with her on top).

In terms of APT and core part, despite that stretching abs would be counterproductive to fixing APT, working out the core and then giving it a good cobra stretch, will help PE.

Also you mentioned that Hindi's are painful, can you go into more detail? Like how low do you go, do your heels tend to come off the floor, do you round your back, do you feel any pain at the front hip etc...

A guy that regularly hits the gym should, if training properly, have the flexibility to stay in a bottom squat position for much longer than 1 min I would say.

I also agree that anxiety never played a part of my PE. However thats something only you can know and reflect on as this will be different for everyone depending on your sexual experience I guess.

May I suggest a better way to edge as well... Get yourself a fleshlight, trap it in between the mattress & and the bed, or somewhere like that, and edge by having to thrust into it. It will be much more challenging than edging with just lube etc just because of the thrusting part alone, and will be a much better benchmark of the progress. Also, if you are unable to last during edging like that, then you can safely conclude that your PE isn't anxiety based.... Unless you feel anxious about fucking a piece of wet rubber somehow.

Agreed, Getting sucked off helps get the initial rush out of it. Could be why my last performance was so good too. Having her take you to an edge can help. Not sure I agree with the not as intense because my gf goes ham on my dick lol.

The pain in his Hindi's may come from the tight quads that is causing APT. Guess the question is where are you feeling the pain.

Anxiety or Mental state in general plays its role. You could have sexual anxiety that can play at both ED and PreE, Getting you into the fight or flight mode that tells your body we are in danger we need to Cum and Run. Mental state can come from thinking about cumming or putting yourself down before or during causing stress.
andrewvi7 you may have been confident enough to power through it but there are many here that get bogged down with the idea of not being a real man unless they can satisfy their gf or wife. I can say It really did a number on my psyche but a few good nights will do wonders for this.

That way of edging is probably as real as you can get. You may need to work up to it if you can only do a thrust or 2 and reach ponr or have crazy IKs. I wish I could edge this way but my GF would cut my dick off if she found a Fleshlight. This method will also be cardio and strengthen your thrusting side benefit.

I beg to differ on the anxiety part though. Edging is not where you would know if anxiety plays a part. Only during real sexual acts will you have to really home in on what your mind is doing and any physical changes. Heart racing, shaking, bad thoughts, fear of failure all those kinds of things. Edging in the way suggested will help you practice in the physical sense, PF tension breathing and relaxing. As well as the extra tensions added in from the position and the thrusting from your legs and abs. But while edging you have no real mental stress because you don't have to impress that rubber pussy. It doesn't think ill of you if you dont fuck it right lol.

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@andrewvi7, welcome to my journey! Your feedback is appreciated big time!
I can actually last pretty descent getting a blowjob (~5 minutes I guess) compared to sex. I also recall a few very happy moments with my ex-girlfriend where I could last about 5 minutes in doggy and with her on top (that's not common though). I would say my PF is more relaxed in that position. Missionary seems impossible though.
How come you say cobra stretch helps with PE? I'd say that's a stretch for your lower back and actually would help with APT?
Hindi squats actually start to feel much better already. The pain I feel is mainly in my pectineus. I can go as low as possible, resting my hamstrings on my ankles with my feet flat on the ground. You'd say after some gym experience that's easy, and I agree, but I've always had trouble with my squats, having quit them for quite some time just because it hurted too much in my hipflexors.
Getting a fleshlight might be a really good idea to practice missionary, although I think there's much progress to be made just using my hands and lube (I'll explain in a sec).


@ACPreE, I've read your thread and I'm curious... you've been on this journey for about 5 months? To which extent did you fix your APT? And are you already able to relax your PF by just doing a couple of RK? I've read a thread on here where someone said he could literaly feel a baloon blowing up, relaxing his PF, by doing a few kegels. I'm still at the point where it's really hard for me to feel whether my PF is relaxed or not.


Update (day 3, 25-07)
Did all my stretches and strenght exercises for my APT and probably did around a total of 10 hindi squats (~1 minute) yesterday and today. Those are starting to feel much better already, so I'm happy with that progress.
I did try to edge yesterday and was curious to see how fast I could reach the PONR with a relaxed PF and letting my imagination run wild. Well... that lasted for 1 minute and I came (after 7 days of not ejaculating). So that's great news! Lots of progress to be made there.
For the next 7 days, I'll be reading into plateau edging more and keeping my edging sessions far away from the PONR in order to find that sweet and holy plateau. Further more, I'll just keep doing my routine, nothing special.
Oh and btw... the girl I'm hooking up with returns from her holiday in about 4 days, and I'm pretty sure we're gonna have sex again. I don't expect much, but opening up to her and maybe trying to get past 1 minute in doggy or getting a blowjob would feel like great progress.


I'll update you guys in about 7 days!

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

@ACPreE, I've read your thread and I'm curious... you've been on this journey for about 5 months? To which extent did you fix your APT? And are you already able to relax your PF by just doing a couple of RK? I've read a thread on here where someone said he could literaly feel a baloon blowing up, relaxing his PF, by doing a few kegels. I'm still at the point where it's really hard for me to feel whether my PF is relaxed or not.

Ya I'v been at this quite a while, its been a stubborn one for me to crack. Cant blame it though 15 years of bad habits. I have been working on my APT and its gotten better about 40% i'd figure. It wasn't very severe but it was there.

As for the PF, it did take a couple weeks to loosen up the PF before i could feel the downward inflation. The feeling has increased but then kind of hit a wall. I was following the do easy RKs and dont use your abs idea but then I read from an older user James to push with your abs and all the supporting muscles. I started following this and started to see greater increases in my RK ability. I think maybe its a good idea not to push too hard in the beginning until the area is more conditioned.

The method i used to practice my RKs in the beginning was to lay flat on my back with knees bent. Make sure your lower back is flat and correct the pelvic tilt. Then almost as if you are relaxing your ball or trying to lightly pee but without having the pee come out. Once you build the muscle memory you can start to progress in strength and frequency.

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Nice thread guys and shows the value of a log.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

I beg to differ on the anxiety part though. Edging is not where you would know if anxiety plays a part. Only during real sexual acts will you have to really home in on what your mind is doing and any physical changes. Heart racing, shaking, bad thoughts, fear of failure all those kinds of things. Edging in the way suggested will help you practice in the physical sense, PF tension breathing and relaxing. As well as the extra tensions added in from the position and the thrusting from your legs and abs. But while edging you have no real mental stress because you don't have to impress that rubber pussy. It doesn't think ill of you if you dont fuck it right lol.

I agree that anxiety plays a big role in PE, however it's not the only factor in this whole issue. If for example one isn't able to even edge in the way that i have described with a fleshlight, anxiety may still be a problem in real-sex situations, but there is clearly a physical problem that is causing PE even in anxiety-free edging sessions with the fleshlight. It's just a way of narrowing down on what in creating the issue in the first place. If however you can't last with a woman, but are able to fuck the fleshlight non stop without significant IKs, the source of that kind of PE would mostly be anxiety/high-arousal based.

@andrewvi7, welcome to my journey! Your feedback is appreciated big time!
I can actually last pretty descent getting a blowjob (~5 minutes I guess) compared to sex. I also recall a few very happy moments with my ex-girlfriend where I could last about 5 minutes in doggy and with her on top (that's not common though). I would say my PF is more relaxed in that position. Missionary seems impossible though.
How come you say cobra stretch helps with PE? I'd say that's a stretch for your lower back and actually would help with APT?
Hindi squats actually start to feel much better already. The pain I feel is mainly in my pectineus. I can go as low as possible, resting my hamstrings on my ankles with my feet flat on the ground. You'd say after some gym experience that's easy, and I agree, but I've always had trouble with my squats, having quit them for quite some time just because it hurted too much in my hipflexors.
Getting a fleshlight might be a really good idea to practice missionary, although I think there's much progress to be made just using my hands and lube (I'll explain in a sec).

What is the overall condition of your core? Interesting that when i had PE, i could still handle BJs for 10-15min, but sex would be 1-2 strokes in missionary before IKs started punching, while as you say doggy was easier, but with the girl on top i could of stretched it back then to a minute or two. Interestingly all those positions require different levels of core engagement which is tightly linked to the pelvic floor.

Think you might be doing the cobra stretch incorrectly if it's stretching your lower back. It's meant to stretch your rectus abdominis.

Ufff, i think that might of been the muscle that i injured a while ago while squatting... Get a tennis ball, put in on the edge of a chair, put your injured side on the chair laterally while the other knee is on the floor with the tennis ball digging right into the injured spot. You'll look like a dog that's peeping lol. But that's the best way i found to massage the inner thigh parts of the leg.

On the hip part, have a look at 'hip impingement' as it sounds like i could be that and will need some work on it just for general gym health.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

I agree that anxiety plays a big role in PE, however it's not the only factor in this whole issue. If for example one isn't able to even edge in the way that i have described with a fleshlight, anxiety may still be a problem in real-sex situations, but there is clearly a physical problem that is causing PE even in anxiety-free edging sessions with the fleshlight. It's just a way of narrowing down on what in creating the issue in the first place. If however you can't last with a woman, but are able to fuck the fleshlight non stop without significant IKs, the source of that kind of PE would mostly be anxiety/high-arousal based.

I totally agree that its a 2 part issue for most people. Physical that causes the Mental in most cases. I was just saying banging a fleshlight will not identify anxiety. Fleshlight works on the physical and connections in the brain that link pleasure to orgasm. The other portion you cant really test until you are in the bedroom is the anxiety. The pressure to preform and satisfy when you have little to no control. Probably depressed some because of your condition and it follows you into the bedroom but not into the fleshlight.

It looks more physical right now but the bedroom is where he can self analyze if anxiety is playing into it as well.


We are on the same page though with our understanding. I was just clarifying.

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@ACPreE
Looks like ATP isn't something to easily fix. I'll expect like 65% progress in 3 months and then 25% progress after a year. Probably that last 10% will take a very long time.
I do feel a weird feeling in my pelvic floor after some time of focussing on holding a slight RK. It feels just like that feeling after you ejaculated. Does that sound familiar? I'll keep doing my 2x5 minutes deep breathing and pushing out a strong RK on breathing in. Hopefully that will keep my progress steady.


@Pegasus
Thanks for joining in. I've seen you all over the PEGym man, you're like a celeberity to me . Much respect and thanks for your contribution to all of us struggling.


@andrewvi7
I completely agree with your hypothesis about real sex vs. mastrubation (with fleshlight). I think I still have some room for improvement in mastrubation (actually alot) and then will try to focus on translating that to real sex. My core is not bad, but not very strong either. You are right about the cobra stretch, it does in fact stretch my core. But for me (with APT), what would you say is the benefit of stretching your core??


Update (day 8, 30-07)
Have been doing my exercises just as I described. To summarise: that's about 30 minutes a day of combined stretches with core exercises to fix my APT. In addition I've added some basic lunge and quad stretches when I wake up and before I go to sleep.
Hindi squats are progressing real good, can do them easily for 2 minutes (no pain at all) and even start to progress them by pushing my knees out further. Also my abs exercises (reversed crunches and planks) progress real nice.
Also opened up to the girl I've been hooking up with (didn't have sex yet though) and she was super chill about it. She's going on holiday again soon, so we'll probably not see eachother for another 2-3 weeks. That gives me some good time to fix my APT and progress with edging.


Edging (major update).
I just finished edging after my usual home stretches. Firstly, I notice my EQ is starting to drop significantly. Probably because I feel my PF being much more relaxed already. I actually look at this as a positive sign.
Also... I think I might be on to something... not sure if this has already been discussed, but I'm actually really curiour about your guys' opionion on the follow hypothesis.


Hypothesis:
Plateau phase is directly caused by your testosteron levels.
I've reached this plateau phase a couple of times and every time I'm in this phase (or state) my mind is in a place of: "I'm dominating this girl". I feel some kind of positive, sexual agression.
By having these thoughts or even better, saying them out loud while edging, will make it much more easy to last not reach PONR. (Psychologists found that just a five minute talk with an attractive women raised the levels of testosterone by 14 per cent and the anti-stress hormone cortisol by 48 per cent.)
Also I remember most of the time when I reached a plateau it was when I had about 4 beers. Studies found that having 4 beers actually boosts your testosteron for a few hours (drinking much more than 4 beers will reduce it by alot though).

This might also be the reason why quiting porn is so good. When (passivly) watching porn, I'd usually be in a state of being dominated (I always loved it when women seduced men/women in porn). When I watch this, I'm not thinking about dominating the girl, but about the girl dominating me. This is horrible for my testosteron levels. When this mindset is translated to sex, this must cause your mind to be in a bad state (being dominated).

I've read some posts on this forum where people said it would help alot when they'd think about being a "Sex God" while having sex. Could this be because this greatly increased your testosteron?
Could you guys think about your best edging/sex sessions? What happened before/during this session that could possibly have boosted your testosteron?




TLDR:
Progress with APT going really well (been doing my routine every day). Opened up to my girlfriend which feels really good. Please read my hypothesis above. I'm really excited to hear your opinion.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

APT is going to take a bit because its literally re balancing muscles and tension on the pelvis.

As for your hypothesis, you maybe onto something with the idea but in the same sense it may not be as directly connected as you would think.
Couple beers would probably be more along the lines of relaxing your body and mind. Relaxing both of those really has a strong impact in the bedroom.

Same idea with the Sex God idea. When you fill your mind with positive reinforcement, your sexual anxiety subsides and you can focus on your girl. This iv also found to have a positive affect on lasting longer. When you are focused on the experience and less on how fast you are going to cum, you will last longer.

Though your idea may have some weight with the testosterone connection but some of the examples maybe closer linked to other things that help stamina.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Much easier to raise testosterone levels through heavy lifting, and those levels are significantly higher. Diet plays a key role too. Like an extended fast can naturally raise your Human Growth Hormone by x14 for a man or something ridiculous like that.

In terms of APT, I don't think it should take you that long. If you stretch daily and do your glute bridges etc a few times a week, majority of your APT should be gone in 3 months or so I would guess.

Other than that, you got a good plan in hand just keep up the consistency and you should be fine

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If you can get away with it, get a girl to suck you off for a good while before attempting sex. Its not as intense as sex, and can give you a real shot at getting all that sensation under control before attempting having sex (suggest starting with her on top).


May I suggest a better way to edge as well... Get yourself a fleshlight, trap it in between the mattress & and the bed, or somewhere like that, and edge by having to thrust into it. It will be much more challenging than edging with just lube etc just because of the thrusting part alone, and will be a much better benchmark of the progress.

+1 on the Fleshlight and blowjob 'training'. Fleshlight also makes a shower mount that you can use for hands-free thrusting; I use it in the shower when edging before, between, and after my five-minute Hydromax pumping sessions. I also like the suggestion of thrusting into a FL to replicate missionary position. Good idea for training also.

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@ACPreE, @andrewvi7, @MPolo
Thanks for your contributions again. About the hypothesis, I agree that most things I mentioned that boost testosteron would also make you more relaxed. You'd probably need to study some males with PreE on steroids to see if this changes anything.


Update (day 13, 04-08)
Nothing super interesting to note to be honest. I've just been doing my routine as I've mentioned. I am going to start progressing my leg raises and planks though as they are getting pretty easy now. For leg raises, I am going to add a progression towards the L-sit and for planks I'm going to focus on pulling my hands towards my toes and toes towards my hands while in plank position more. Also going to try and put my feet against a wall, as this should make the plank much harder.
I'm also adding in some hamstring and core stretches as I feel like those areas are really tight and could use some stretching. Planning on doing about a 3:1 ratio of stretches (3 pelvic floor/quads/lower-back stretches: 1 hamstrings and core)
Lastly, I'm also doing tailbone squeezes (not sure if this is right word) while standing as much as possible.


Now one thing I would love your guys' feedback on:
During edging I won't really feel many IK, BUT when I touch my PF (between balls and anus) I do feel it tensing up whenever I stroke. When I'd pull a very hard kegel for about 5 seconds then it will relax while stroking, but after about 5 seconds it will tense up again. By tensing up I mean: making small kegels on the same beat of my strokes. Is this normal or should I try and focus on not performing these mini-kegels?
My edging sessions still have lots of room for improvement, but I don't feel the progression yet. I feel like if my pelvic floor would just relax I'd have no issues at all. What do you think?


Looking forward to all your feedback and I'll make my next update next week. Don't expect anything special, as the girl I'm hooking up with is on holiday for about 3 weeks.


ps. She did give me BJ and handjob 2 nights ago and lasted for about 6 minutes. I'm pretty sure that if we'd try missionary I'd still bust in 5 strokes, which proves I've still got a long way to go.