My weird premature ejaculation issues + BIG questions

[Uphill Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Uphill]

Recap

So a couple of weeks back, I posted looking to find the cause of my premature ejaculation and it all pointed to my pelvic floor muscle being overactive and contracting hard and often. Nothing seems to permanently keep it rested during sexual stimulation. Moving forward I paid attention during to my Pelvic floor during masturbation and sex and here have what I found out.

I have found that on occasion at a peak of arousal without climaxing, I would ejaculate/leak a small amount of sperm if I just about hold back from blowing a full load. After that, I find I am able to go on with sex with a much less urgency to ejaculate. (Bare in mind for the original small ejaculation to happen I'm pretty much having to stop and start with every 2/4 thrusts till I'm at the point I'm having to fight real hard with keegles, breathing, tensing and un tensing abs to hold a full load back. And sometimes I can just stop all stimulation but if something is off, like my breathing or not switching between different keegles, I can feel the muscle contract and not stop contracting until I've ejaculated, this can also be done if I even just keep the foreskin pulled back, and the tighter it's pulled back (just keeping it pulled back, not the full masturbation motion), the more intense the build up to orgasm is. Before I know it I'm ejaculating and not even had much physical stimulation. It's like my pelvic floor muscles has a mind of its own.

A big observation

So I seem to have real problems with premature ejaculation when my penis is at its hardest.. which I guess symbolises max arousal. I can be near fully hard but have intercourse pretty full on with a far less chance of suddenly jumping from a 3 to the point of no return (On the arousal scale). While I'd be inclined to see this as positive, I should be able to have the strongest erection without premature ejaculation I feel.

Currently with sex/masturbation, ejaculation is near instant, so I just rely on keeping myself hard after and going on from there until I ejaculate again after the original premature ejaculation (If it is sexual intercourse). Bare in mind, time wise, it is more like normal sex if I can keep hard long enough after the first ejaculation to reach a second one. However, doing this makes my penis extremely sore, and it numbs out during intercourse not making it that enjoyable for me at all and causing further damage to my PF? After ejaculating now I can actually feel the soreness in my PF. During stimulation as well I often feel a pleasurable sensation in the PF region as well as the penis which makes it even harder to hold back. It's as if I'm ultra aware of that muscle now.

It is also to be noted that for example, if I have a visual stimulation it's far harder to control, where as even if I have a visual stimulant on my phone during masturbation for example, but I am interacting with it by either scrolling or typing, I reach the point of no return at a much more natural pace. Having no visual stimulation at all is russian roulette, sometimes I reach the point of ejaculation very quick, sometimes at a more natural pace.

So if you have any thoughts and opinions on the above I am all ears. I also have the following questions, after being suggested stretching the pelvic floor muscle via squats and yoga.

1. How long roughly should I do these exercises per day? and how long before results may show?
2. Should I abstain from all sexual stimulation (No fap) While I focus on stretching this muscle out?
3. If yes for the previous question how long should no fap last?
4. (medical) I also get a feeling of having to urinate sometimes while having next to no urine to pass, I also (Mainly in the mornings) struggle to make a full bowel movement. I can go use the toilet, then need it again 10 minutes later.... would you say this is interlinked with the premature ejaculation?
5. Why do you think a small accidental release of sperm
6. I have a doctors appointment on the 5th of September... should I abstain from all sexual contact until then or continue to experiment and hope for the best with masturbation and sex.
7. I can often stay hard after a near instant premature ejaculation, is this normal?
8. And finally, why does ejaculating at the start temporarily allow me to have normal sex time wise till I ejaculate again (But numb as hell during)

I know this is a long one but any information will help massively as I try to piece together and understand what my issues are and I hope these answers may help othes too who may be reading. It just seems there are soo many variables with my Premature ejaculation from physical to psychological.

Thank you soo much in advanced

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

While partial ejaculation isn't that abnormal controlled partial ejaculation is for most a difficult trick .

[Uphill Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Uphill]

That's interesting to know. Do you think that could be a temporary or permanent work around for PE? Getting more in control of partial ejaculations to release some of the tension around the PE.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

That's interesting to know. Do you think that could be a temporary or permanent work around for PE? Getting more in control of partial ejaculations to release some of the tension around the PE.

So what you experienced is kind of a side step. It doesn't fix your PreE but it can make it seem like you don't have a problem. Iv actually wondered if some of the posts about reaching a plateau is actually just a kind of refractory phase.

I had badly trained myself for the last 15years to kegel while masturbating and sex. This caused me to have strong regular kegels. Once i get close to the PONR, you can kegel hold and "Hold back" how i like to call it. Obviously this is something that needs to be trained if your kegels aren't strong enough. After the kegel hold, arousal drops from a 9 to 6 or 7 and I can bang for a good long time. This is like a half refractory period where your body isn't ready to orgasm again but you still keep your EQ.

I think what you experienced when you got to just before the PONR where you had a little come out. You reached the peak and your penis went into refractory. Now the trick is still fixing the time it takes to get to the first PONR. Once you get there, kegeling to DO is very effective at allowing you to continue.

(My 3 Personal endings)

Almost Peaked: When you get to literally 9.9 and you are one pump before orgasm but so close you may get one IK but no PONR. You get so close your penis thinks you hit the PONR and goes into a plateau or refractory. This is almost like kegel hold but a bit more unreliable unless you have a very good understanding of your scale. I occasionally reach this one because i can feel the build up almost like its filling up the penis like water running to the opening of a hose (in sensation not cum) When I stop and feel the sensation continue going up for a second or 2 even after iv stopped completely is how iv gotten to this one. Its like when i stopped the sensation was at 9.8 and it continues to 9.9 to 9.95 then just keeping relaxed and mentally controlled it starts to settle down.

Kegel Hold: 10-15 second Hard kegel hold and can continue with full EQ. Sometimes the EQ dips to about 70% but comes back to full after a minute or so.
Vs.
Ejaculation: Depending on arousal, sometimes EQ drops completely for 2-5mins and by that time moods killed and its done. Other times my EQ stays full but then goes to 60% EQ after a min or 2 and stays that way for few mins.

[peforever Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peforever]

My Pre-e is very similar to yours. Sometimes I try to stop from cumming but even when kegel, small amount of sperm comes out and I can go at it right away. Also, the mor erect I am the more IK’s I get and harder to control. When I started clamping, since when you clamp, you are usually more than 100% erect, I sometimes came without any notice while watching porn.

I used to masturbate at least 5 times a week and have sex around 2-3 times. I have stopped all masturbation and edge almost 1:30 hours (usually sessions of 20-30 min) with cock ring and porn and don’t cum unless during sex.

I do Hindi squats, happy baby pose, child pose and lots of ab and core recently. I feel my RK’s are working, but it is mainly back RK and I get the ballon effect in Pf while practicing breathing and RK. I am not sure if I am doing front RK’s, but definitely when arousal is high, I can’t RK of any kind.

I usually smoke cannabis at night before sex and that helps a little. usually my morning sex is less than 10 seconds (I try to avoid it usually),but have seen lots of improvements at night sex. PUT cream works as well since it kind of desensitizes the freneleum where most of the IK’s occur, but I haven’t tried it for a while. Tramadol (50 mg or even 25 mg works great as well), but I use it occasionally. I usually also take 5 mg of coal is before sex and that helps a little with PE and if I cum early, I can just wipe off and go again. Just like you, the sensitivity drops and the feeling is much less the second Round.

[venom888 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close venom888]

Didn't read all that but I've also noticed if I get to a 9.9 and start ejaculating but barely hold it back with a strong kegel, I also can last longer afterwards. One idea is that you tire out a muscle and so force it to relax.