Feels like I’m finally doing things right (success story)

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

About me:
I used to hang out a lot in the pre-e forum, I was trying a lot of stuff but never really had success, and once I discovered PYT balm, I admittedly only half-heartedly continued working on my issues. I used PYT on and off for some months, sometimes even having “okay” sex without it, other times cuming very fast. But it was always tough to get the timing right, and weeks ago I put too much on it so I lost my erection again because I was too numb. The feeling of losing the erection is even worse than the feeling of pre-e, imo.

Also, my girlfriend gave me the feeling that it’s “okay” and that she still enjoys sex with me, no matter how quickly I’d come. Kind words but kinda naïve of me to believe that she is really fine with it.

After hanging out a lot on reddit (mostly angion method but also talking a lot with user nupru_nero form the pe_injuries sub), I found out some things that I needed to do in order to beat my pre-e. My goal was actually to improve my flaccid hang, which has a lot to do with pelvic floor IMO, but I noticed the positive side effects when it comes to my performance in bed.

I want to give you an overview about the things I’ve been doing the past few months that have helped me improve a lot (in no particular order):

• Meditation: at least once a day for 10 minutes, if possible I try to add a second session in the evening. This helps with awareness, more on that later.
• Basic stretching: At least twice a week I try to stretch my whole body for 20-30 minutes, putting special emphasis on hip flexors, core, glutes, quads, hips. I recently also started to blackroll my core area, which is a lot more effective than just stretching it.
• Hindu squats: not much has to be said about this one. I learned that it’s hardly possible to “directly” stretch your pelvic floor but hindu squats come very close.
• Pelvic floor massage: sitting on a tennis ball for a couple of minutes and slowly move my pelvic floor around.
• Glutes/hamstring strengthening: Heavily inspired by the kneesovertoeguy, I incorporated glute bridges and Nordic curls into my routine. I have hardly ever before specifically targeted these muscles; I did however do a lot of squats, but I think a heavy imbalance developed between these two muscles. Working on the glutes n hammies helped me to fix my slight APT. Standing feels so much different now, so much more comfortable. It feels like I’m more “aligned” now and almost doing a slight reverse kegel automatically because my PF is in a more neutral position.
• Standing desk: I’m lucky to be able to have the option of a standing desk at work. At first, I wasn’t able to stand for long, my back would start hurting, etc. Now, standing is my “default”, and I only sit for like an hour a day. If you sit with bad posture for most of the time of your day, all your effort that you otherwise put in was worthless.
• ERECT REVERSE KEGELS: All caps because these are crucial. I learned that by doing RKs you’re not only able to directly stretch your pelvic floor, but doing them erect also works the infamous IC muscle, a muscle that nobody knows how to target and one that is often too weak. It’s responsible for holding erections. For a long time I thought it was bullshit but with a strong erect reverse kegel you are even able to lift your penis up. Nupru_nero has a video of himself doing this on reddit, it’s impressive. I’m at a point where I can make it jump a little by doing a strong reverse kegel but I fully expect to be able to really lift it up too. It takes time, I’ve just been practicing for 3 weeks.
• Sleeping on my back: I have never been able to fall asleep on my back, one reason being because of my slight APT my back would start to hurt sooner or later.Now that my posture is better I try to sleep on my back, often waking up with hard erections during the night. I’m not sure how important this one is. I think sleeping on the side is also fine as long as you put a pillow between your knees to keep your pelvic floor more open.

Things I STOPPED:

• Regular kegels: Because nothing was working before my “breakthrough”, I even started doing regular kegels again because I thought maybe they aren’t as bad. What happened? My IKs got even worse, my penis would jump around like crazy once my girlfriends hand just came close to it. I’m convinced that there is really no need to specifically work on strengthening your pelvic floor with kegels if you workout regularly. With all the big compound movements, the pelvic floor is involved and holding strong. No need for more work on it, at least in my case!

• EDGING: This one was big. I never questioned edging because it’s recommended a lot. And maybe, if done correctly, it can help. In my case, I think I’m better off without it. The thing is, I didn’t realize that I was edging. I was visiting webcam sites, ready to show my cock to strangers, thus keeping it hard for a long period of time, being in a semi-laid back position on my couch. I think that from these sessions, my PF muscles got really tense, wasting all the efforts that I put into it by stretching and all. I also think, and this is bro science, that by ejaculating at the end of such a session, your PF muscles get their well deserved “release”. I hardly ended up ejaculating though, making my PF muscles even more tense over time.

So now that you know about the things I started and stopped, there is one more aspect that I needed to master. And I think I got a glimpse of what is possible on said last night. The last aspect is…


BE AWARE during sex – not of my AROUSAL, but of any MUSCLE TENSION

We’ve all heard it before. Be aware of your arousal scale, yada yada. The thing is, at least for me, sex is always very overwhelming because of the stimuli. I could be well aware of my arousal and trying to be relaxed BEFORE sex, but once I penetrated, my brain just switched into another mode. Also, it always felt like I can go from 5 to ejaculating within 2 strokes. The scale didn’t do it for me, I was too far away. I didn’t have enough control for the arousal scale.

I want to try to give you a detailed description of what I was experiencing and feeling on my successful sexual encounters last night.

I was really horny with 10/10 EQ when my gf started stroking me while I was kissing her. I told her that I want to be inside her and fuck her very slowly. I put on the condom and entered all the way. Immediately I felt like I was going to cum as soon as I would move the slightest bit. I told her that I just want to stay in her like that for a little and tried not to move. The urge was so strong though, I basically expected to bust within the next seconds. She started to move slowly because she wanted to feel me. And suddenly, I became “aware”. I took some deep breaths and while lying on top of her, I tried to completely relax all the muscles of my body. I was basically lying on top of her like a dead person, but still being hard as a rock. I put all my focus on relaxing my muscles, especially my butt and my pelvic floor muscles. This was the only chance I could last for a little longer and avoid another disappointment. I focused on my breathing, focused on being relaxed. Good thing is that I can now focus on those things because I don’t fear losing my erection anymore (angion method ftw!). She moved my body while I was relaxed all the time. And even when I was moving myself I tried to keep my core loose and move from my legs or use my hands to shift my body. After some minutes, she said she is about to orgasm. Jackpot. Even when she came, I could’ve continued but decided to cum at the same time as her. Due to pre-e we hardly experience magical moments like this one. Afterwards, she said that this was one of her best orgasms she’s had with me.

Fast forward to some hours later. We woke up too early and got horny again – same thing. I focused on being relaxed and was even able to switch positions. This time, she didn’t orgasm, but this round lasted much longer than the previous one. Hard to say exactly, but it was one of my longest performances for sure.

One thing that I would like to point out is the feeling I had when I was completely relaxed on top of her. I had no thoughts at all besides my focus points, and almost felt a little “dumb”, for a lack of better explanation. I made weird sounds as well, because I just didn’t make any effort to hold anything back. It was honestly an amazing experience last night.

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I just realized this is a very long post. I hope some of you can get inspired by it or learn something out of it.

I'll happily answer all of your questions!

[Guster Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Guster]

About me:
I used to hang out a lot in the pre-e forum, I was trying a lot of stuff but never really had success, and once I discovered PYT balm, I admittedly only half-heartedly continued working on my issues. I used PYT on and off for some months, sometimes even having “okay” sex without it, other times cuming very fast. But it was always tough to get the timing right, and weeks ago I put too much on it so I lost my erection again because I was too numb. The feeling of losing the erection is even worse than the feeling of pre-e, imo.

Also, my girlfriend gave me the feeling that it’s “okay” and that she still enjoys sex with me, no matter how quickly I’d come. Kind words but kinda naïve of me to believe that she is really fine with it.

After hanging out a lot on reddit (mostly angion method but also talking a lot with user nupru_nero form the pe_injuries sub), I found out some things that I needed to do in order to beat my pre-e. My goal was actually to improve my flaccid hang, which has a lot to do with pelvic floor IMO, but I noticed the positive side effects when it comes to my performance in bed.

I want to give you an overview about the things I’ve been doing the past few months that have helped me improve a lot (in no particular order):

• Meditation: at least once a day for 10 minutes, if possible I try to add a second session in the evening. This helps with awareness, more on that later.
• Basic stretching: At least twice a week I try to stretch my whole body for 20-30 minutes, putting special emphasis on hip flexors, core, glutes, quads, hips. I recently also started to blackroll my core area, which is a lot more effective than just stretching it.
• Hindu squats: not much has to be said about this one. I learned that it’s hardly possible to “directly” stretch your pelvic floor but hindu squats come very close.
• Pelvic floor massage: sitting on a tennis ball for a couple of minutes and slowly move my pelvic floor around.
• Glutes/hamstring strengthening: Heavily inspired by the kneesovertoeguy, I incorporated glute bridges and Nordic curls into my routine. I have hardly ever before specifically targeted these muscles; I did however do a lot of squats, but I think a heavy imbalance developed between these two muscles. Working on the glutes n hammies helped me to fix my slight APT. Standing feels so much different now, so much more comfortable. It feels like I’m more “aligned” now and almost doing a slight reverse kegel automatically because my PF is in a more neutral position.
• Standing desk: I’m lucky to be able to have the option of a standing desk at work. At first, I wasn’t able to stand for long, my back would start hurting, etc. Now, standing is my “default”, and I only sit for like an hour a day. If you sit with bad posture for most of the time of your day, all your effort that you otherwise put in was worthless.
• ERECT REVERSE KEGELS: All caps because these are crucial. I learned that by doing RKs you’re not only able to directly stretch your pelvic floor, but doing them erect also works the infamous IC muscle, a muscle that nobody knows how to target and one that is often too weak. It’s responsible for holding erections. For a long time I thought it was bullshit but with a strong erect reverse kegel you are even able to lift your penis up. Nupru_nero has a video of himself doing this on reddit, it’s impressive. I’m at a point where I can make it jump a little by doing a strong reverse kegel but I fully expect to be able to really lift it up too. It takes time, I’ve just been practicing for 3 weeks.
• Sleeping on my back: I have never been able to fall asleep on my back, one reason being because of my slight APT my back would start to hurt sooner or later.Now that my posture is better I try to sleep on my back, often waking up with hard erections during the night. I’m not sure how important this one is. I think sleeping on the side is also fine as long as you put a pillow between your knees to keep your pelvic floor more open.

Things I STOPPED:

• Regular kegels: Because nothing was working before my “breakthrough”, I even started doing regular kegels again because I thought maybe they aren’t as bad. What happened? My IKs got even worse, my penis would jump around like crazy once my girlfriends hand just came close to it. I’m convinced that there is really no need to specifically work on strengthening your pelvic floor with kegels if you workout regularly. With all the big compound movements, the pelvic floor is involved and holding strong. No need for more work on it, at least in my case!

• EDGING: This one was big. I never questioned edging because it’s recommended a lot. And maybe, if done correctly, it can help. In my case, I think I’m better off without it. The thing is, I didn’t realize that I was edging. I was visiting webcam sites, ready to show my cock to strangers, thus keeping it hard for a long period of time, being in a semi-laid back position on my couch. I think that from these sessions, my PF muscles got really tense, wasting all the efforts that I put into it by stretching and all. I also think, and this is bro science, that by ejaculating at the end of such a session, your PF muscles get their well deserved “release”. I hardly ended up ejaculating though, making my PF muscles even more tense over time.

So now that you know about the things I started and stopped, there is one more aspect that I needed to master. And I think I got a glimpse of what is possible on said last night. The last aspect is…


BE AWARE during sex – not of my AROUSAL, but of any MUSCLE TENSION

We’ve all heard it before. Be aware of your arousal scale, yada yada. The thing is, at least for me, sex is always very overwhelming because of the stimuli. I could be well aware of my arousal and trying to be relaxed BEFORE sex, but once I penetrated, my brain just switched into another mode. Also, it always felt like I can go from 5 to ejaculating within 2 strokes. The scale didn’t do it for me, I was too far away. I didn’t have enough control for the arousal scale.

I want to try to give you a detailed description of what I was experiencing and feeling on my successful sexual encounters last night.

I was really horny with 10/10 EQ when my gf started stroking me while I was kissing her. I told her that I want to be inside her and fuck her very slowly. I put on the condom and entered all the way. Immediately I felt like I was going to cum as soon as I would move the slightest bit. I told her that I just want to stay in her like that for a little and tried not to move. The urge was so strong though, I basically expected to bust within the next seconds. She started to move slowly because she wanted to feel me. And suddenly, I became “aware”. I took some deep breaths and while lying on top of her, I tried to completely relax all the muscles of my body. I was basically lying on top of her like a dead person, but still being hard as a rock. I put all my focus on relaxing my muscles, especially my butt and my pelvic floor muscles. This was the only chance I could last for a little longer and avoid another disappointment. I focused on my breathing, focused on being relaxed. Good thing is that I can now focus on those things because I don’t fear losing my erection anymore (angion method ftw!). She moved my body while I was relaxed all the time. And even when I was moving myself I tried to keep my core loose and move from my legs or use my hands to shift my body. After some minutes, she said she is about to orgasm. Jackpot. Even when she came, I could’ve continued but decided to cum at the same time as her. Due to pre-e we hardly experience magical moments like this one. Afterwards, she said that this was one of her best orgasms she’s had with me.

Fast forward to some hours later. We woke up too early and got horny again – same thing. I focused on being relaxed and was even able to switch positions. This time, she didn’t orgasm, but this round lasted much longer than the previous one. Hard to say exactly, but it was one of my longest performances for sure.

One thing that I would like to point out is the feeling I had when I was completely relaxed on top of her. I had no thoughts at all besides my focus points, and almost felt a little “dumb”, for a lack of better explanation. I made weird sounds as well, because I just didn’t make any effort to hold anything back. It was honestly an amazing experience last night.

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I just realized this is a very long post. I hope some of you can get inspired by it or learn something out of it.

I'll happily answer all of your questions!

First congratulation on the success.
I have one question how you manage to be erected when trying to relax PF and what is the anthony method?
When I have sex and do belly breathing and try to relax I manage to prolong time to PONR but my erection went down immiedeatly.
I have Pre E and do streching(hindi squat and baby pose) strengthening muscle like hamstring glutes and core and most effective thing for streching PF for me is belly breathing and RK.
I manage to stretch my PF,it is not anemore tightBut now I have problem with erection when I’m doing belly breathing amd trying to be relax.
Thanks

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Hey Guster,

the "Angion Methods" focus on increasing blood flow to the penis. Even though only a few members have reported gains beyond +0,5 inches so far, nearly all of the members report amazing improvements in EQ. The methods are pretty simple and risk free, give them a chance and thank me later!

I've been doing them for over a year, thats why I don't have any issues with losing my erection at all. Quite the opposite. Your penis will get almost painfully hard. It will also become more sensitive, which makes it more difficult in terms of premature ejaculation, but I think not having to worry about losing your erection makes fighting pre-e much much easier.

Hope this helps!

[purpleskies Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close purpleskies]

That's great to hear your progress bro it helps out a lot being that we're all on here trying to fix this issue. I have stalled on this like you mentioned for some years after just reading with no application but im finally taking it serious lol. Anyways, i was curious as to what kind of stretches you did and how did you recognize you had APT? I feel like i do bc my posture is always terrible and leaning back as well as my shoulders being lifted. It's hard to really get a consistent breath of air if that makes sense, thanks!

[Ball bearing Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ball bearing]

Congrats on your success, I noticed you mentioned “Pelvic floor massage: sitting on a tennis ball for a couple of minutes and slowly move my pelvic floor around.”, I’ve posted here that I’ve started using a Tens machine twice a day now for a bit over a week and already I’ve noticed a much stronger PC muscle when urinating, still to test in bed, unfortunately for me the wife has been crook for a few days now.

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Anyways, i was curious as to what kind of stretches you did and how did you recognize you had APT? I feel like i do bc my posture is always terrible and leaning back as well as my shoulders being lifted. It's hard to really get a consistent breath of air if that makes sense, thanks!

I didn't have a severe case of APT but just noticed lower back pain when standing for a bit longer and also when sleeping on my back. It wasn't really visible that I had APT.

I started stretching my hip flexors, glutes, quads, in addition to working out those muscles as well. You need strong AND flexible muscles.

[Schmukk Member Find all posts View Profile Close Schmukk]

I was basically lying on top of her like a dead person, but still being hard as a rock. I put all my focus on relaxing my muscles, especially my butt and my pelvic floor muscles. This was the only chance I could last for a little longer and avoid another disappointment. I focused on my breathing, focused on being relaxed. Good thing is that I can now focus on those things because I don’t fear losing my erection anymore (angion method ftw!). She moved my body while I was relaxed all the time. And even when I was moving myself I tried to keep my core loose and move from my legs or use my hands to shift my body.

Hey could you pls elaborate? You just lay on top of her dead weight? doesn't that crush her?

And how did she move your body if you were dead weight?

Also do you just let your belly loose and not tense your abs/TVA, or do you keep abs tight when thrusting?

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Hey could you pls elaborate? You just lay on top of her dead weight? doesn't that crush her?

And how did she move your body if you were dead weight?

Also do you just let your belly loose and not tense your abs/TVA, or do you keep abs tight when thrusting?

Let's say my core area was "dead". We were in missionary and I was almost in a plank like position but with my core hanging down and being completely relaxed. I tried to let everything loose, especially my buttocks and my belly. I think if these 2 are loose, you're winning.

I used my arms and also my toes to push and pull myself up and down, but my core was really "dead", pressing on her vaginal area, which btw also helped stimulating her clit!