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[AceOfHearts Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AceOfHearts]

Hi
so i have finally decided to start a log so i can keep a focused track on my efforts. The following will be a copy-paste of a former post from a few week ago, as i reckon it will give a nice overview of my current state and plan (with some added routines)

This post will contain 3 sections, in which i will outline: 1. My PreE, and what i think may be the root cause, 2. What i have done so far to fix it, 3. What i am planning to do next.

Hopefully some of you will have some beneficial inputs, as i can understand that several members have successfully ridden themselves of PreE, and achieved a much greater sense of control.

So here goes

1. My PreE
I lost my virginity at age 16, and have experienced PreE pretty much ever since. We are talking within a minute almost every time i have sex, and i often reach PONR after 2 thrusts, so yeah its pretty bad.
The only things that have helped me extend the duration so far is 1. getting drunk, or 2. sex in the morning where i can sometimes last as long as i want, with a much greater sense of control.
I think, that like so many others my PreE stem from kegeling hard during masturbation in my teenage years, to rapidly reach orgasm. All of highschool i wanted to work on it, so every night i would edge to porn, however i did so by rushing to PONR, and then straying around PONR for the rest of the session, which i think might have been counterproductive. Also, it resultet in PIED, however i no longer struggle with this, and can pretty much get and stay erect every time my girlfriend starts undoing my pants.

2. What i have done in attempt to fix it so far
After reading extensively on this forum i started a routine about 2 months ago consisting of:
- Constant light reverse kegel throughout the day
- Focused sessions with reverse kegels every day.
- IC strengthening every 2nd day.
- Edging sessions (combined with ballooning) min. 25 minutes, no porn. about once a day. Been using a light grip so far. Will start tigthening up. Only ejaculation every 3rd session (I still have sex with GF and cum pretty much every time)
- Deep squats throughout day
- Pelvis floor stretches every night
- Workouts and healthy eating.
- O-ring penis stretches every second day.
- Working on ridding myself from IK's, mostly at the underside of glans. So far pretty successful, however still work to do.


Final thoughts:
- While it seems that the main issue for many people with PreE is an unessecarily tense BC, mine stays relaxed throughout the day, and only contract when i am nearing PONR. However i have noticed that a little muscle just in front of the anus (not sure if this is the root lock muscle, pc muscle or ic muscle) stays tense for most of the day, and i have to consciously relax it. Even reverse kegels aren't always enough as i still have to put a conscious focus on relaxing the area. I have been doing so for the past month or so, however it still tenses up as soon as i remove focus. This area also seems to be the main place that my "pleasure" builds up during masturbation and sex. Where do you guys experience the sense of PONR approaching (in an anatomic sense)?

I know PreE can be beat, and i am working hard on getting there!

Cheers
Ace

[GettingOverIt Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GettingOverIt]

Sounds good. I am also doing a lot of what you are doing to fix it. Also lost my virginity at the same age and has this issue since.

I agree on your final thoughts as well.

Also read this article regarding the squats and PF: https://www.healendo.com/pelvicfloor-squat
A good point she makes is summed up like so: Weak glutes + too much Kegels = Pelvic Floor Disorder.

So, after two months of this process, are you able to last longer? - How much longer?

Thanks.

[incogneeetoe Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2017*Special Appreciated Moderator Nov. 2021* PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close incogneeetoe]

Try what I call A Rolling Kegel:

Start the "clench" at the front and move it back to the anus, eventually having the whole floor tense.
Then as the "clench" reaches the back, release the front, and do a revers kegel to the back, to the point the whole floor is in s reverse kegel.
Repeat.

To the opposite, start "clench" at rear, bring forward, etc.

[Guster Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Guster]

I also have tight this area,but I can’t do back kegel
how I am supposed to do back kegel?

[AceOfHearts Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AceOfHearts]

So, after two months of this process, are you able to last longer? - How much longer?

Thanks.

Well i can feel my pelvis floor being looser, and my flaccid hang and eq are definetily increased. However in regards to lasting, i have only noticed a difference during edging and not during sex, where i still reqch ponr after a few thrusts and have a hard time lowering ariusal after that.

however, i did have a nice edging session yesterday where i would do a semihard RK during every thrust and that seemed to work quite well, so will test this out during next sex session. Also, i have started dryrubbing the frenulum area several times a day while perfoming the same form of RK in an attempt to "harden" the area and react less when stinulated


cheees

[AceOfHearts Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AceOfHearts]

Update: just had sex with the gf yesterday after a weeks break. Had terrible eq and started to feel PONR as soon as she started rubbing me off (which have never happened before) came after 3 thrusts.....

are really starting to get desperate as it seems that no matter what i do, it doesnr prolong my sex sessions. I have been doing a reverse only routine for 3 months, and are starting to wonder whether i need to do more kegels for strength.

cheers

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Just don't give up. I myself went from 2-3min to 15-20sec after I started my training in the course of about 2 years.
I was also relying on doing a lot of RKs. I was advised that this is temporary and things will start improving. Unfortunately this did not happen. So the RKs by themselves are not the solution.
I have seen members reporting improvemen after doing extensive abs trainings. I feel myself having a weak core I have decided to work on having a six pack. Not sure if this is related but In the porn movies I see the guys with strong abs and six pack pumping hard which makes me believe there is a relation. I am on this since 1 month so I don't expect immediate results, but let's see in about 3-4 months.

[AceOfHearts Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AceOfHearts]

aight so after doing a 3 month reverse only routine i started incorporating the kegel/reverse kegel and root lock/reverse root lock routine from Minutemans DO guide.

And i have noticed something that i think further underlines that my main cause of PreE is not a tight BC muscle, but may be because of a constant root lock tension, and overtrained/activated anal sphincter or pc-muscle, which may stem from an earlier diagnosis of IBS and consequently continues contraction of the anal sphincter to hold in gas.

I can easily perform root locks, reverse root locks, and to a certain degree reverse kegels with fine tuned isolation. However, every time i try to perform a kegel, the first thing that happens is a root lock, followed by a normal kegel, which i can't seem to isolate (for now). However i reckon that this is a sign of pelvis floor imbalance which may be caused by an overtrained root lock.

Will continue with the routine, and hopefully this will bring some balance to the pelvis floor.