THE AROUSAL SCALE (and a Way of thinking about it)

[Drummer19 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Drummer19]

This is mainly for people that think they have Pre-E symptoms from arousal problems.

Arousal and Erection seems to work together, they are not the same thing.
Everyone is familiar with the erection scale right?

0- not erection
2- semi erect
5- soft but erect
7- hard but not throbbing
9- about to finish
9.9- PONR

Now here's a concept that I came up with called the arousal scale.
I may have mentioned this to some people before.
In my arousal techniques thread I say to figure out how your body reacts to arousal. The more aroused you get you start to physically and mentally change.
This scale explains how "I" get as I get more aroused. Note that it may be different for everyone so figure out how you react!

0- not aroused
2- little spark of arousal
4- loss of attention. thinking dirty.
6- loss of attention. thinking dirty. Heart starts beating fast.
8- loss of attention. thinking dirty. Heart starts beating fast. Sweating.
10- loss of attention. thinking dirty. Heart starts beating fast. Sweating. No focus whatsoever.


Here is the interesting part people. These two act TOGETHER to control your stamina.
Here is a great analogy to explain this phenomenon:

Your erection process is like a car. You car gains SPEED (the erection) and your car gains speed by the ACCELERATION PEDAL (arousal). As you can imagine the faster you go you will eventually wreck (ejaculate).

Your arousal determines the "speed of your car." If your arousal control is very bad it is like stomping on the pedal every time you start to drive!
Like going from 0-50 in 5 seconds, bad arousal control can make you go from a 0 erection to a 9 erection, with little to no warning at all.

Only after you understand that you are pressing the acceleration pedal too hard can you begin to figure out why it is happening and figure out how to not press so hard anymore.

With good arousal control you can control the rate your erection grows!

Has anyone ever noticed that sometimes you will get pockets of time where when you are having sex you can kegal ALL you want and it dosn't make you finish quicker? Yeah, that is because your arousal is really low and can barely maintain your erection.


I found out some awesome things from not masturbating to porn but just sitting down and watching it.
My erection would go up by itself as soon as I started showing signs of arousal (heart beat fast, trouble focusing) and stay at a 7-8 for a min or two, and then go down all by itself, only after my arousal went down. That got me thinking, what if I counteracted my arousal symptoms as they happened? Sure enough, I can keep my erection down just by watch guarding my body and mind. After going through this process for over a month, I "watch guard" myself automatically and can keep my erection down. However if I put my guard down and get really aroused without noticing, my erection goes up.


Just think of this arousal scale seriously and use it to combat Pre-E.


-Drummer19

[mvergasioin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mvergasioin]

That got me thinking, what if I counteracted my arousal symptoms as they happened? Sure enough, I can keep my erection down just by watch guarding my body and mind. After going through this process for over a month, I "watch guard" myself automatically and can keep my erection down. However if I put my guard down and get really aroused without noticing, my erection goes up.

So i guess you are you saying that with proper awareness, I.e. your "watch guard" you keep your arousal level down and therefore your erection down. And therefore you keep yourself further from ponr and ejaculation because that is what you choose........... irrespective of voluntary or involuntary kegels.

[Drummer19 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Drummer19]

Correct. I was worried this would be too confusing!

[mvergasioin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mvergasioin]

Correct. I was worried this would be too confusing!

A little long, but it worked.

[Northener Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Northener]

I gotta agree with everything that Drummer said! Lately I've been trying to get my Pre-E under control and now I have given up porn and just started exploring myself and I've noticed that if I keep my thoughts and body under control I can edge as long as I want. If I get the urge to cum I only have to slow down or stop for a couple of seconds and get my mind and body under control. I'm starting to believe that for me the mental side of the puzzle is going to be the game changing piece. I haven't had that much benefits from kegals per se, but they have helped to notice what is happening in that region. So they have given me more awareness of my body which is the key if you want to keep it calm.

I have yet to put these methods to the test with intercourse but I'm sure I can apply the same methods to it though it may take some time...

[mvergasioin Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mvergasioin]

I gotta agree with everything that Drummer said! Lately I've been trying to get my Pre-E under control and now I have given up porn and just started exploring myself and I've noticed that if I keep my thoughts and body under control I can edge as long as I want. If I get the urge to cum I only have to slow down or stop for a couple of seconds and get my mind and body under control. I'm starting to believe that for me the mental side of the puzzle is going to be the game changing piece. I haven't had that much benefits from kegals per se, but they have helped to notice what is happening in that region. So they have given me more awareness of my body which is the key if you want to keep it calm.

I have yet to put these methods to the test with intercourse but I'm sure I can apply the same methods to it though it may take some time...

The whole idea is mind and body control that eventually becomes so second nature that it can be used during sex.

[Chase_the_dream Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chase_the_dream]

I totally agree with this drummer.. well to a certain extent at least.. last Friday me and my wife were having sex first time in a while I was worried id finish fast. So I kept thinking about my arousal level and trying to keep it under control. If I felt like I was getting above a 7 on my scale (7-10 happen very quickly)id quickly look around the room to distract myself while doin a long and hard rk. So that's where I agree with you the part I disagree on and it may be just me is my erection never went below a 9 fully hard and aching to cum. It might have beencthe fact that we were actively engaged in intercourse so it never had a chance to subside.

Again you did say everyone is different and it could have been that I didn't want the moment to end quickly but if it was I definitely wasn't thinkin about it lol

[samkhan Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close samkhan]

Hey buddies I have a question in my mind which I hope the experience persons can easily answer. I've watched many home made sex videos and in all of them the guy inserts his penis while it is at its 100% erection and still he continues for 20 to 25 minutes. So my question is that if erection is rated to arousal level it means the guys in the clip have also reached their extreme arousals then how do they perform for so long. Hope u guys get my point.

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

I think when you know you are being judged, watched, or in this case recorded by a camera it kind of subconciously forces you to succeed and last longer. It is this way when I am in a 3some with my buddy and a girl as weird as that sounds.

Also, porn is very unrealistic. Most of the pornstars are on pills that will give them the stamina and endurance they need. As well, they are professionals. They do this for a living so it becomes a lifestyle and job for them to succeed. Trust me, you dont want to be comparing yourself with these guys, all it will do is doubt yourself.

[Tigerman Member Find all posts View Profile Close Tigerman]

I have Pre-Ej...

when I ejaculate... sometimes (30% maybe) I dont lose erection (lucky me !!), so I keep going (but I am not horny anymore)... and I ejaculated again... after 2 minutes or so !!!!!!

So why do I ejaculate if I dont feel horny ?

[hoochiNn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hoochiNn]

When we say "loosing attention" we are loosing attention on what? Body, control arousal symptoms, etc.?

[alexaustin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alexaustin]

Dummer19, I see what you're saying in regards to the relation of arousal to EQ, but how are you supposed to have sex and maintain an erection if you're trying to lower you're arousal, thereby decreasing the strength of your erection. I don't think it's as simple as you're making it out to be, unless I'm missing something. This would imply trying to have sex with a semi-hard penis. Am I incorrect?

[alexaustin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alexaustin]

Bump.

[Drummer19 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Drummer19]

Dummer19, I see what you're saying in regards to the relation of arousal to EQ, but how are you supposed to have sex and maintain an erection if you're trying to lower you're arousal, thereby decreasing the strength of your erection. I don't think it's as simple as you're making it out to be, unless I'm missing something. This would imply trying to have sex with a semi-hard penis. Am I incorrect?

I am saying that with a steady arousal, you can maintain a steady erection. You cannot fully control your mind, so whenever you train yourself to lower your arousal you shouldn't have to think about it so much. You more or less naturally can just maintain your erection through arousal control. It is a pretty simple concept.
Maybe you can explain further what you are confused about?

[alexaustin Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close alexaustin]

I am saying that with a steady arousal, you can maintain a steady erection. You cannot fully control your mind, so whenever you train yourself to lower your arousal you shouldn't have to think about it so much. You more or less naturally can just maintain your erection through arousal control. It is a pretty simple concept.
Maybe you can explain further what you are confused about?

Gotcha. It made more sense to me when I re-read your original post just now. All you're saying is that you can lower/control your arousal enough to maintain a steady enough erection to have sex. I think I was just confused about, 'well if I lower my arousal, how can I keep an erection?' Now I think it's more about maintaining a proper equilibrium between the two to help prolong sexual endurance.