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  • #16
    Originally posted by BeatIt View Post
    Its definitely more isolated. But from all the reading I did on reverse i was not "pushing like i was going to fart." This didnt really have any effect on my bc. When im peeing I dont "push like im going to fart" to pee faster, but instead I shift my BC muscle which allows more urine flow.. If this is in fact a reverse kegel then fine but I think it needs to be described very differently than the community has thus far.
    The reason I have over 10,000 posts, is constantly describeing reverse kegel up down and sideways. There are countless posts describeing the front ( pissing ) version . Does not, the the piss faster, have a push feel to it, as i have described countless times.
    It boggles my mind, every timer a guy piss he does a reverse kegel and i have to explain it endlessly.
    Do you say you shift your bc muscle to do a piss, or do you say push out (or force out) a piss? Is doing a piss a techniquely difficult process?
    This is something you do every day ,of course you have to isolte it so you don't feel like pissing or shiting ,but it isn't man on the moon stuff.

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    • #17
      Lol, The insults here are making it really hard for me to not just delete the information and take it elsewhere. I knew before I posted some of you would have a problem with things being shaken up. I'm sorry your position on the subject feels threatened.

      I'll leave the information up because as I stated Im just here to help other guys out that are going through what I went through. I wont post on the thread anymore as I'm done taking personal attacks but if anyone has any questions you can PM me.

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      • #18
        Didn't see anything new in it, but I do think your post is usefull

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        • #19
          You and I are not describing the same thing.

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          • #20
            I really do think this post is great! I can really relate to this and motivates me to try harder. Anyway, you asked if I tried to do a kegal after I start to lose my erection after halting the first PONR. I have never tried and will. It seems to happen all the time. I lose my erection after doing the stop/start method! Which kegal should I perform? Reverse or reg. ?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by beatit View Post
              that's it. Its done, over.
              For so long this b.s. Had plagued every part of my life. My self esteem, my ego, was shot. I couldn't see a man when i looked in the mirror only a little boy.


              Well i did it guys. For a while i mulled around the idea of an ebook or some way i could profit, but instead i'm just going to share with you what helped. And most of it you already know, just didn't want to believe. I know some will argue their points in contrast to what i tell you, but i was on that same side of the fence and none of that worked for me. I should state before hand that my situation can be different from others. I could feel like cumming within a couple minutes of being inside my wife. Thats what my level of pre-e was at.

              I read about the effects of serotonin, and considered going back on the meds that messed me up in the first place. I was desperate, i have a hot wife that i can't enjoy intimate time with. I decided to try tryptophan first, and still take it but will probably discontinue it as i dont believe it has any effect on my mood (depression) or premature ejaculation. I just wanted to add this because i think you guys should have all the info.

              I took a week off of masturbating. No porn, no kegeling, no sex, nothing. I gave my muscles down there a chance to recuperate.

              The number one tip to overcumming this that anyone can give you, is to think positively. Im serious guys some of you are going to roll your eyes here but we all know how much the brain is linked to this. I was and still am struggling with negative thinking. And i mean about everything. You have to learn right now that every time you have a negative thought about anything, to switch that into a positive thought no matter how ridiculous it seems. When the brain goes "im such a bitch i will never be able to fuck my g..." stop it right there. Change it to "im a fucking stud and if i wanted to i could be a pornstar". I want you to implement this into every negative thought, not just about pre-e but your whole life. Practice this your entire week off.

              Now that your member is rested lets get back to edging. I always masterbated without lube. I was a dry guy rub one out and would feel the tingling in my pecker before i was even hard. quit dry masturbation right now! your dick and mind has to get used to the feeling of slippery goodness or else when you dip it in that honey hole your brain is going to explode the moment that warm gooey goodness envelopes your member. A lot of people tell you pre-e will go away with experience. This is totally true...to an extent. It will go away with good experience listen to me right now- when i suffered from pre-e (a week ago fellas), i was obsessed with sex. It consumed me, the need to be good, the need to beat this pre-e was destroying my soul. Now that i beat it, its sad but, sex is no big deal anymore. Its just something you do with a cool chick. This mental state is what is needed to beat it, when you can have your cock in a slimey warm hole without your mind going "dude! Im not good enough for this" you will last. Instead youll be thinking damn im good, damn shes good, and we are both enjoying this.

              I went off on a tangent there but its imperative you understand how the state of your mind has such an effect on this. Sex is no big deal when you don't pre-e.

              So take your week off, and think positive. Then get some good lube, a little cup of water and park your ass in front of some good porn for 30 minutes. Yes you have to edge with lube. Watch the porn and let yourself get hard. Dont start jerking that limp thing until its hard. Try rubbing it softly instead. When your hard apply the lube and start slow.

              I know most of you at this point are sighing and rolling your eyes. "god i've done this a hundred times i know all this already." just chill for a second.

              Take it slow and enjoy the porn. Then speed up a little and practice your kegeling. Im convinced the kegel muscle works in 2 motions. If its pulled in, all up in through your anus, your putting pressure on your prostate. But if its pushed out (and i dont mean a reverse kegel here, i could never figure those out and never worked for me.) you are still doing a regular kegel but if the muscle is out properly it can cut off most of the sensation your dick is feeling. Ill try to explain this more later.

              Add some water to the lube as it gets sticky and dries up. You want to keep it as slippery and wet as possible to simulate a pussy. Keep it up untill your reaching the ponr the first time and kegel hard and stop. Your kegel in this state should feel different than a kegel your used to. Firmer, set in deeper than usual. If you can learn to hit that spot right there while at a lower state of arousal, you can limit the sensitivity your penis will feel while pounding away. When the urge to come has subsided a little start slamming yourself again, make sure to keep adding water so its slippery. You want to get yourself to the point that your head starts to get a little irritated while your doing this. Youll notice yourself start to numb out a bit.

              Practice this once a day. Thirty minutes. Make sure its always lubed really well and practice your kegels. In time you will hit a spot where your kegel will be cut in so deep at the base of your cock that you can control your stimulation, just like all the other sites tell you. And when it happens your going to feel really, really fucking good about yourself. And this effect is going to snowball into better, and better sex, each and every time you fuck. Soon it will be so natural your kegel will seem like its working by itself when your chick is riding on top of you.

              Guys just last week i was cumming very quickly. I feel really good about myself right now. Just remember to keep a positive mindset always, even if you have some slip ups put a fucking smile on and know deep inside you that you can and will do better next time. Never get down on yourself, from this point on.

              I just want to add one more thing. Back to the whole experience thing, this is key. Find yourself a cool understanding chick. One of the things i noticed was there were a few things that set me off when fucking. I would dread when my wife would start to moan and get really wet while things were going good. I would say to myself shit please dont start moaning ill cum if you do. Again we are going back to the negative thinking. Instead of using the experience to learn and grow, i was avoiding the challenge. Now i look at it like, the more often i get her to that point of pleasure, the more im able to control my own excitement at that stage; because of experience! =) if you meet your challenges, stay present and see them as experience, your excitement will become less and less severe as you become accustomed to the idea of these chickies squirting all over your awesome stick of awesomeness. Head on baby, meet those challenges. Live for them.

              Any questions feel free.
              how long did you last while with prem ejac? How long do you last now?
              JamesMonroe
              Senior Member
              Last edited by JamesMonroe; 03-13-2012, 05:17 AM.
              Started MAY 2011 BPEL 5 and a 1/2 inches. EG 5 and a 1/2 inches.
              Now MAY 2012 BPEL 6 and a 1/2 inches. EG 5 and a 1/2 inches.
              I have cured myself of prem ejac, now I am working on a bigger shlong.

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