No porn v.s Porn v.s Semi use

[Deadzone Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Deadzone]

There seems to be mixed opinion about the use of porn during edging/ballooning, and just general arousal control.

Which will do more harm than good/vice-versa: Using porn during edging/Ballooning, using porn only for arousal control (no touching), or not looking at porn at all? Some say you should get your erection on your own before introducing porn.

Speaking generally here.

[Edge of Glory Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Edge of Glory]

I started edging a few months ago and initially used porn. This seemed obvious to me since I used to watch porn pretty often anyways. But I soon realized how much harder it was to have a good edging session (at 8-10 eq) without the porn. So I cut it out completely. I don't really think it's good to condition your arousal to over-stimulating porn. This could lead to ED eventually.

I guess the least harmful of the options would be the ballooning one. But again, you shouldn't rely on porn for an erection. Some guys can watch a lot of porn and it doesn't affect their normal erections. But these are probably rare cases.

[Minuteman Member of the Month March 2013. Find all posts View Profile Close Minuteman]

I am one of the advocates of the very very limited porn use but for me that is mostly when trying to become an MMO, and even then I am not 100% sure it should be the right way (overcomeing the DO flacid problem).

But I know for sure that in 99% of the time usage of porn is very counterproductive.

But lets address your concenrs:

1. Porn for arousal control sake

- I began thinking that porn is an excelent "arousal benchmark tool" but in time I learned that the type of arusal you get from porn and from edging/sex or other more direct stuff are two different worlds, it all boils down to how connected/synched you are with the current thing you see and feel. Porn creates a major desynchronuzation between what you see and what you feel and because of that gap "benchmarking" with porn is almost always simply wrong. Much better benchmark for arousal (if sex is not avilable ) is imagination. For more see this post
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post484347


2. Edging/balooning

For the simmiliar reasons as above using porn to increase your edging/balooning sessions quality is also not a good idea, mostly because while you edge and some man makes love to some woman you are unconsciously trying to match his actions and since you almost always can't (for many reasons) that session mostly ends prematurely or you are left strugling directly at PONR for most of the time. The ideal arousal zone for a good edging session is just a little before PONR, but when done without porn your control is much better and you can stay in that zone longer, hence you get more used to that zone and develop a good practice how to get in and out of that zone. There are people that find using porn with edging useful but they are few and far in between and most of the time they don't have PremE.

When edging your focus should be on you and when having sex your focus should be on "us" (her and you), that way you learn also trough edging.

3. No-touch-porn

Generally porn has an effect on people that it can really desentitize you, and being desentitized is (well at leas in my opinnion) workse than having a PremE, yes you can pump but what good is it when you virtully don't feel anything.

4. Geting erection trough porn

Getting erection on your own or by the help of a partner is definately the best and healthiest way of getting an erection. Sometimes your body just isn't in the mood, and the agressive nature of porn is sometimes very good at masking negative PIs for the sake of somewhat "fake" arousal. Although this doesn't affect much from one or two (or three) tries, doing it continiusly can posiibly induce ED problems amongs other things.


EDIT:

With all this in mind there are some good uses is a proper mindset is used details in this post.

[Deadzone Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Deadzone]

Thank you very much, I've been contemplating on this for a few weeks now.

[franzjager Member Find all posts View Profile Close franzjager]

What about for someone (like me) who can get hard no matter what? Would it be good to "desensitize" myself a little bit? because ultimately I want to get to be able to "pump"

[adiavroxos Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close adiavroxos]

What about for someone (like me) who can get hard no matter what? Would it be good to "desensitize" myself a little bit? because ultimately I want to get to be able to "pump"

If by that you mean that you can get hard very very easily, then I think thats a good think. If however you mean that by the time you get hard, you are overwhelmed with the urge to ejaculate, then I think some edging/balloning/more sex will definitely help. Its all a matter of practice.

Relying to porn in order to become hard is like relying to a pill in order to have sex. Your unit may not get damaged, but your mind surely will, and it plays a key role during sex and arousal. Stop relying to porn in order to get hard and you will see that getting it up is not such a big deal after all. It may require some "help" from your partner or your hand but this is natural. Noone can get it up with a blink of an eye. There is no on-off switch here.
If you want to see some porn, do it. However, dont masturbate or edge/ballon during it. Do that alone with your mind and not a clip in charge.

[Deadzone Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Deadzone]

I figured I should bump this to ask a question instead of just making a new topic.

Would edging to pictures or videos that my girlfriend gives me (as a gift ) have the same effects as porn, or would it be more beneficial?

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

I personally think you should do these things in order:

1) Watch porn for 1-3 months without touching yourself at all.
(to ease off and reprogram your mind and body, and get used to seeing that stimulation and visuals without getting excited)

2) Stop watching it completely and NEVER masturbate to it again.
(it is way too arrousing and unnatural and the excitement and images stay in your mind for too long)

3) edge/balloon with a tighter grip, WITH LUBE, just using your imagination.

[Deadzone Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Deadzone]

I personally think you should do these things in order:

1) Watch porn for 1-3 months without touching yourself at all.
(to ease off and reprogram your mind and body, and get used to seeing that stimulation and visuals without getting excited)

2) Stop watching it completely and NEVER masturbate to it again.
(it is way too arrousing and unnatural and the excitement and images stay in your mind for too long)

3) edge/balloon with a tighter grip, WITH LUBE, just using your imagination.

What about edging to pictures/videos that my girlfriend gives me? (if you know what I mean)

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

I would say no for now.... maybe later when you have made progress at sex with her.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

....just incase. Use your imagination about her.

[Deadzone Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Deadzone]

....just incase. Use your imagination about her.

I will try.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

You can also try watching the videos and pics of her, put them away, and then edge to the thoughts of those images in your head. Just don't let it get too erotic.

[MAR Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MAR]

I personally think you should do these things in order:

1) Watch porn for 1-3 months without touching yourself at all.
(to ease off and reprogram your mind and body, and get used to seeing that stimulation and visuals without getting excited)

2) Stop watching it completely and NEVER masturbate to it again.
(it is way too arrousing and unnatural and the excitement and images stay in your mind for too long)

3) edge/balloon with a tighter grip, WITH LUBE, just using your imagination.

So in those 1-3 months never masterbate?

[Gatrog Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gatrog]

Haven't watched porn in the past 4 weeks,cold turkey. It was extremely easy for me,as I just substituted porn for erotic literature