The Death Grip

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

I think the risk of permanent damage is minimal as well, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. so as it is right now I am taking this death grip thing slow. On the other hand I agree with what you said about intense training being the best. My question (if you dont mind me asking) how long did it take for you to overcome prem ejac, and do you think if you had used death grip durring your pre-e training you could have reduced that time?

Unfortunately, I was already cured by the time I started exp w death grip. My cure was a mixture of all kinds of exercises and programs, but I didn't last long at sex until I practiced with real sex. I was able to edge for an hour, but it was a few minutes with sex. It was the gradual and constant sex with the most intense positions with a loving, caring partner that slowly made the difference. That is when anxiety goes down and confidence goes up. I am just trying the death grip now for extra minutes and because I believe I have a good theory going about light touches causing hyper spasms and sensitivity.
Good luck and keep me posted guys!!!

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Last Week's Progress of Death Grip has enabled me to thrust almost NON-STOP for half an hour while standing. I stop after half an hour (otherwise skin starts feeling unpleasant). I can control my arousal now and there is no sign of involuntary flex.

Most importantly, I have learned to breath through diaphragm while thrusting. On each breath I inhale, I tighten my stomach muscles and push it downward. When I exhale, I relax these muscles. And this technique alone keeps me going.

Thanks.

Great! So u do it dry? I been doing it dry too lately just because of laziness, and actually... most people that say they have DE say that they used death grip WITHOUT lube. So maybe we are doing the right thing... who knows....

[sameel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sameel]

Great! So u do it dry? I been doing it dry too lately just because of laziness, and actually... most people that say they have DE say that they used death grip WITHOUT lube. So maybe we are doing the right thing... who knows....

I don't do it dry as the death grip is very TIGHT and I fear it can hurt the skin otherwise.

Please give a try to BREATHING THROUGH DIAPHRAGM. It works great for me to lower the arousal, it is natural and it works in real time. You don't need months of training for it.

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Personal experience: before edging I could pound away and would actually have to work towards getting off. Now after edging a lot (1-2 times a day for 3-5 days a week), I have yet to have to work towards getting off with the girlfriend, it just ends up happening during normal sex and... sometimes I do have trouble lasting now.

So basically I think from my experience I have to regulate the amount of edging I do to moderate how long I last.

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Personal experience: before edging I could pound away and would actually have to work towards getting off. Now after edging a lot (1-2 times a day for 3-5 days a week), I have yet to have to work towards getting off with the girlfriend, it just ends up happening during normal sex and... sometimes I do have trouble lasting now.

So basically I think from my experience I have to regulate the amount of edging I do to moderate how long I last.

Just to let you know... as soon as I stopped all exercises and just had constant sex with my gf, is when I started to last longer in bed. I stopped all edging, masturbating and exercises. It was real sex that cured me, mostly.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

I don't do it dry as the death grip is very TIGHT and I fear it can hurt the skin otherwise.

Please give a try to BREATHING THROUGH DIAPHRAGM. It works great for me to lower the arousal, it is natural and it works in real time. You don't need months of training for it.

Even with being circumsized, many of us can still use our skin to masturbate dry. We don't stroke against the skin, we stroke WITH it.

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To be honest, I've always suffered from the symptoms of "death grip." I welcome the earlier orgasm. 15 minutes MINIMUM has now dropped to 5 minutes minimum... no real maximum, just depends on how much I want to prolong it. Was getting frustrated before when a quickie wasn't possible.

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yeah we have to find the middle ground. I feel like I'm there already.

[sameel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sameel]

Even with being circumsized, many of us can still use our skin to masturbate dry. We don't stroke against the skin, we stroke WITH it.

Nice information for me about dry masturbation. I will try with that. But I think of the reasons of my PE was quick and dry masturbation in my earlier years.
Now I normally use soap which makes it easy to have very tight grip and I can thrust for half an hour. I can lower the arousal with breathing etc. Yesterday, I tried with mustard oil (which is more viscous) and ejaculated after 4-5 minutes unexpectedly. Today's session went well for more than half an hour of thrusting but I lost erection in the end. Thanks.

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Unfortunately, I was already cured by the time I started exp w death grip. My cure was a mixture of all kinds of exercises and programs, but I didn't last long at sex until I practiced with real sex. I was able to edge for an hour, but it was a few minutes with sex. It was the gradual and constant sex with the most intense positions with a loving, caring partner that slowly made the difference. That is when anxiety goes down and confidence goes up. I am just trying the death grip now for extra minutes and because I believe I have a good theory going about light touches causing hyper spasms and sensitivity.
Good luck and keep me posted guys!!!

Its actually because of my girl that I'm even here. We have a great sex life, but why settle for great when you can have amazing. She has been a part of my training from day one and I wouldnt have it any other way. Take for example the death grip, she has me lay on my back and we 69, but rather than oral she strokes me with the death grip. This way I get to train myself to not only controll ejaculation but also arousal in a realistic situation, because idc how good an imagination you have nothing will test your arousal controll like having a real dripping pussy inches from your face. The most important part of all this is i'm able to please her while I practice and like I said pleasing her is the reason I'm here to even begin with. Thanks for the reply and congrats on all your success. O and to anyone out there who hasnt already, come out to your significant other about what your doing. If you have a good woman she will understand, and if you're like me and you're lucky enough to have an amazing woman she will do everything she can to help you.

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Its actually because of my girl that I'm even here. We have a great sex life, but why settle for great when you can have amazing. She has been a part of my training from day one and I wouldnt have it any other way. Take for example the death grip, she has me lay on my back and we 69, but rather than oral she strokes me with the death grip. This way I get to train myself to not only controll ejaculation but also arousal in a realistic situation, because idc how good an imagination you have nothing will test your arousal controll like having a real dripping pussy inches from your face. The most important part of all this is i'm able to please her while I practice and like I said pleasing her is the reason I'm here to even begin with. Thanks for the reply and congrats on all your success. O and to anyone out there who hasnt already, come out to your significant other about what your doing. If you have a good woman she will understand, and if you're like me and you're lucky enough to have an amazing woman she will do everything she can to help you.

Word.

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Any more updates and results guys???

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No more updates and results guys? I always masturbate with a tight grip now. I feel it is the way to get rid of spasms/involuntary kegels/penis hypersensitivity. Most people with prem ejac use a light, soft grip and guys with delayed ejaculation use a tight, hard grip..... therefore, the penis gets trained accordingly to either react hyper sensitively to light stimulation or it is trained hard to be able to fend off hard stimulation/tight vaginas. Makes sense to me. The penis needs to ejaculate as soon as possible to make life, so if all it gets is light stimulation, it will learn to ejaculate to that light stimulation ASAP. On the other hand, if the penis slowly gets used to lasting longer over time to harder stimulation, the penis will need to be stimulated intensely to be able to ejaculate. Therefore, normal, not so tight vaginas will have a hard time trying to make a hard trained penis to ejaculate. Her my drift?
Ofcouse you have to also drop the porn, get good at reverse kegels, have real sex often and learn arousal control techniques and sexual positions. I believe that getting used to the toughest, hardest training, situations, exercises and sexual positions is the way to cure prem ejac. I went from 1 min to up to 1 hour. During sex. There are a few guys that have has success with this after reading my post and trying it and they have posted their results here. Any more news or results guys? Thanx. Sorry for the long post.

[sameel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sameel]

James my friend,
I did it for a month or so daily with dedication. It decreased the sensitivity and above all I learned to apply reverse kegal, breathing and kegal. Spasms are almost no more there. I can last more than 40 minutes during masturbation. Another aspect is that I started experiencing weaker erections and penis goes flaccid often. So now I stroke with different intensity, light and tight mixed, and on alternate days. During the day I keep on breathing using diaphragm and doing reverse kegal so that I can make these my second nature. So having done enough practice, I was so confident that one day I tried sex, but ended in few thrusts despite using reverse kegal and breathing I have learnt so far etc. Forgot to ejaculate before trying the sex session as people do mostly.

Here are more facts. May be someone is able to give me a better piece of advice.
(1) My problem is that mostly I reach to first PONR within few seconds. Though I can control it during masturbation but NOT during sex. I am in my early 40's and I am fast shooter since I remember. Did edging and ballooning for almost a year including death grip for a month or so. Doing reverse kegal and breathing practice since 3 months. My focus is currently reverse kegal and breathing as everyone is focusing on that.

(2) One day I took Zyrtec 10 mg and there was no PONR even after 30-40 minutes with furious thrusting and stroking, but erection remained weaker at 7-8 level. I can take it on daily basis but I fear it will kill my erection.

(3) Lately, my feet started burning... and kind of sleeplessness developed. Is it due to low serotonin level?.
I started taking Vitamin B Complex tablets daily (which also contains 400 mg folic acid) + and also soaked almonds daily. My burning feet problem was resolved just after a couple of days taking these, erections became stronger, cum volume increased and also refractory period reduced. In fact, after eating the almonds, I started feeling much relaxed. I never thought these will be so much effective. This convinced me that taking magnesium supplements will definitely help me. I was unable to find some good magnesium supplement here on the stores but found a multivitamin supplement which also contains 100 mg magnesium per tablet. So, after taking it, I feel good.

Any suggestions?

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I've only just got round to reading this thread, or most of it anyway and I thought I'd add my two cents.

I think what would be most beneficial to everyone would be to use alternating pressure, speed, intensity and so on, so that you get used to and enjoy a full range of sensations instead of trying to desensitize yourself to a degree where stimulation above one point feels good and below that point feel boring.

When I masturbate or edge I don't use any one kind of grip I go from soft and slow to hard and fast and everything in between always alternation the speed, grip, pressure and intensity so that I can enjoy the full spectrum of sensations.

The more you expose yourself to wide range of sensations the more you become used to them and so you become comfortable controlling yourself no matter what the level of stimulation.

Personally I wouldn't ever what to desensitize myself to a point where I find the more lighter forms of stimulation boring. I'll give you an example.

A week or so ago I was with this girl and we had already had sex. I was just laying there feeling nice and relaxed and she was laying with her head resting on my abdomen and she started to gently caress my dick with just the tips of her fingers while gently blowing on it from time to time and if felt incredible. She did that for about 15-20 mins before I came.

I guess my point is that I'd rather train myself to enjoy and control myself in a wide range of sexual situations like the one above rather than limit myself to stimulation above a certain intensity.

Just my opinion.