The Death Grip

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

The Deathgrip is related to and causes deleyed ejaculation, so I'm currently experimenting with it(with real sex also) to see if it can help people last longer without going to far to where it is a negative thing. To tell you te truth, if I have to exit vagina and masturbate to ejac, l'll be ok with that as long as I can last a long time to be able to pleasure my girl very well. i will watch closely for negative signs. This might just help everyone. I will keep you all posted. Please keep commenting guys... this seems like a good one.

[rko Member Find all posts View Profile Close rko]

Wow I'd never thought of this. I always masturbated to porn with a light grip. Could really be on to something here JM.

[capital255 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close capital255]

This very interesting James and Pegasus. I think the death grip can be good thing only for advance edging just like James would say. Probably at least a few weeks for you body to get accustom to edging and then apply a more tighter grip. Obvious this technique will train our bodys and minds to make things easier when we are having sex with a girl who has a tight vagina and someone like most of us who have PE. Look at, if we train like this even though I tried this only a few times during edging which is very intense. This can make things easier when getting ready in the bedroom for sex. Just like for example if taking a 7 grader who practice playing basketball with basketball high school teenagers over a period of time will make him better. So when he actually plays within his age level, his brain, body, nervous system, etc will be way better to adjust and be able to dominate because he was practicing with people with more advance skills then his age level. So this can also apply to the death grip..can make our body's be able to last longer when having sex..This technique can be very effective i believe, but again i haven't had sex in a few months to experiment if this would work but hopefully soon. So again maybe this can be done in moderation to last longer but again you don't want to have no ejaculation at all too.

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I am very excited about it.
I hope this is the answer to most of us, AS LONG AS WE DON'T OVERDO IT AND MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE WITH REVERSE KEGELS AND ESPECIALLY REGULAR KEGELS FOR GOOD ERECTION QUALITY.
I stopped edging for like 6 months because I have constant sex now so I only tried it one night. I will try to "death grip edge" as much as I can and I can totally test it with my gf so I'll let you guys know. I feel it will work because of the proof of death grip use we have from guys with Deleyed Ejac and because I know from experience that getting used to the craziest exercises/sexual positions/arousing situations is what trains you well for real sex.
I also noticed and remembered that I masturbated with a very light grip when I had Prem Ejac.
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(part 2, scroll up for part 1)
It's like the ultimate edge/balloon combo exercise, for experienced edgers and ballooners, ofcourse. Please scroll up and read the Python Palm Pressure post I posted a long time ago. I suggest you guys just experiment with your penis and try all kinds of ways to stroke and rub it while using a tight grip. I suggest you use twists and close/tighten your palm at the head on the upstroke till your head is out of your hand and your empty fist is infront of your exposed penis head. Get it?
I did it standing up, used baby oil and I was thrusting my hips.
It was supper intense!!!!!

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*super

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Curious and curiouser...

Sometimes when edging and approaching the PONR, I'll give myself a firm squeeze at the base of my cock. That seems to instantly drop my arousal level. So... I got the idea of experimenting with a cock ring. I only got it the other day and will use it tonight.

Perhaps this is somehow related to your death-grip technique. Perhaps not. Either way, I'm watching this thread...

Be carefull with edging while using a cock ring ,condition yourself .

Remember I was edging for long periods at times and using a lot of kegel / reverse kegels during it also.

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Be carefull with edging while using a cock ring ,condition yourself .

Remember I was edging for long periods at times and using a lot of kegel / reverse kegels during it also.

Pegasus... Why were you edging and doing reverse kegels if you had Delayed Ejac??? I would assume you had to train yourself with quick light masturbation and regular kegels to overcome Del Ejac...

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Be carefull with edging while using a cock ring ,condition yourself .

Remember I was edging for long periods at times and using a lot of kegel / reverse kegels during it also.

Pegasus, I'm not sure I follow. What exactly should I be careful about? About physical injury? About deconditioning myself? About decreased sensitivity to sex without a cock ring? About delayed ejaculation?

I used the cock ring last night. I was expecting it to decrease my sensitivity once I put it on. However, it increased my arousal and made me cum shortly thereafter. That said, I put it on midway through edging when I was already a bit aroused rather than at the beginning. I will keep experimenting even though my trial run was somewhat disappointing.

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And here's a question for JM:

I thought that you had already overcome your Pre-E problem through a routine of reverse kegels, edging with ballooning, and lots of real sex. I thought you had already reached the point of ejaculatory control. Am I mistaken about this? If I'm not, and you have reached the point of ejaculatory control, why do you continue to explore different methods of training when you've already found a method that works?

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Umm jm this was 30 years ago and I didn't know then what I know now.
I did train myself with lighter masturbation and increased kegels particularly within sex. Also decrease ejaculation frequency prior to sex so that I caould get off easier and a lot of vigor and control within sex.

I can't answer for JM but I have a long history of pre e coaching despite never having it myself.

[rko Member Find all posts View Profile Close rko]

JM I have a theory. Death grip with lube helps to create the sensation of a tight vagina - leading to the quicker approach of PONR. However, if you were to use death grip dry; ejaculation is delayed because the sensation (I've found) is less stimulating. Ultimately leading to longer sessions, a more relaxed pelvic floor etc. I could be wrong, just an observation.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Pegasus, I'm not sure I follow. What exactly should I be careful about? About physical injury? About deconditioning myself? About decreased sensitivity to sex without a cock ring? About delayed ejaculation?

I used the cock ring last night. I was expecting it to decrease my sensitivity once I put it on. However, it increased my arousal and made me cum shortly thereafter. That said, I put it on midway through edging when I was already a bit aroused rather than at the beginning. I will keep experimenting even though my trial run was somewhat disappointing.

The cockring is prob making u more sensitive because it traps lots of blood and inflates your penis , making it more sensitive. Who ever said they are for lasting longer in be? I think they are just for better erections, aren't they?

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I think it is interesting to discover if the death grip with lube would be a better way of edging and getting rid of the sensitivity caused by real sex when you are conditioning yourself to last in a more intense scenario. I know that the arousal during sex is different, but with time your arousal during sex will be less dramatic. I think JM could be going somewhere with this. I have not conditioned myself enough into handling death grip from the start of edging, but I am working on that, and will update you on my progress.

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And here's a question for JM:


I thought that you had already overcome your Pre-E problem through a routine of reverse kegels, edging with ballooning, and lots of real sex. I thought you had already reached the point of ejaculatory control. Am I mistaken about this? If I'm not, and you have reached the point of ejaculatory control, why do you continue to explore different methods of training when you've already found a method that works?

Yes, I am cured. I last from 25-40 min right now. Pretty good coming from 1 minute. I was just wanna experiment to see if that theory is correct, because it does look like it might. I found out that guys with del ejac masturbated with a tight grip and most people with prem ejac mastirbated with a light grip and also that getting used to intensity and highly arousing things is what helped me. I'm still not sure about the lube v.s. dry part.... But I would just love to see that people that don't have a constant sex partner can maybe cure themselves with the death grip and not rely on looking for a partner.