Feeling of involuntary kegel

[rayva2000 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rayva2000]

How do involuntary kegels feel during masturbation? I've read all over to do a reverse kegel to eliminate the involuntary ones, but it feels like the involuntary ones are actually reverse kegels. Can anyone help and specify please? Thanks guys!

[vetoo Member Find all posts View Profile Close vetoo]

same question here

[sameel Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sameel]

This is similar to the spasms which happens when you ejaculate. You clench your pelvis muscles similar to a regular kegal but it happens unintentionally. It gives more and more pleasure, and within few pumps, you are done. It is a symptom to highly trained ejaculation response and tense pelvic floor muscles for shooting fast.
Some people feel it just with light touch or even when they are flaccid. Others feel it with intense strokes. They are in the habit of clenching their pelvis. To break this habit, do reverse kegals and deep breathing. So that you don't clench your pelvis muscles, rather keep your pelvis relaxed or deflated while stroking or having sex. This should be your target.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Involuntary spasms are regular kegel spasms. I suggest you completely stop regular keg exercises and only do reverse kegel exercises OUTSIDE OS masturbation and sex as a separate exercise. and NEVER masturbate or edge to porn.
also use a tighter grip during masturbation. Never touch yourself lightly or with a loose grip.

[X Black Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close X Black]

It is a symptom to highly trained ejaculation response and tense pelvic floor muscles for shooting fast.

I would add that we've probably developed this habit in our teens, when the refractory time was short and quick ejaculation was source of instant pleasure. As also Minuteman said somewhere, we unconsciously developed habits to get off quickly, like clenching the pelvic floor or stiffening our legs and buttocks.

Some people feel it just with light touch or even when they are flaccid. Others feel it with intense strokes. They are in the habit of clenching their pelvis. To break this habit, do reverse kegals and deep breathing. So that you don't clench your pelvis muscles, rather keep your pelvis relaxed or deflated while stroking or having sex. This should be your target.

That's right.
I would add that personally speaking I've trained my pelvic floor but never too much, but instead I developed an awareness that allows me to keep the muscles relaxed even when I feel that they "want" to contract.

It's like if for example you have anger problems and are trying to develop self control. Maybe someone does something that would "trigger" your anger, you feel the trigger, you feel that your muscles want to contract and you want to fight, but you stay still, relaxed and in control.
You do not repress the feeling of anger, or the feeling of pleasure, you live with it but stay still, in control.

It's a bit challenging, but this can be another approach worth trying IMHO.