Locating and Flexing IC Muscle

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Okay so I can pull up my Cock while I am flaccid as well As erect. Can see it pull in on the top side at the base of my Penis by pubic area. Is this the right flex for the ic?

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Okay so I can pull up my Cock while I am flaccid as well As erect. Can see it pull in on the top side at the base of my Penis by pubic area. Is this the right flex for the ic?

Yes, it is but keep in mind that while doing so you don't have to incorporate PC and BC muscles. Restrict it to penis raises only.

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We need experiences and input from members to come to a conclusion. I would appreciate if you guys put on your experiences here regarding angle of erection (AOE) and Pre E after exercising IC muscles for benefit of others .

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We need experiences and input from members to come to a conclusion. I would appreciate if you guys put on your experiences here regarding angle of erection (AOE) and Pre E after exercising IC muscles for benefit of others .

Will do. I'm doing RKs and these ic flexes currently. About 3 days in.
Minutemans DO guide would be ideal I think but with a family and work just didn't have enough time to keep up with it. I'm trying my own routine with these things so I'll keep you posted.

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I cam isolate this muscle but of course don't have pre e . The use of kegel strength and rk in anti pre e methods is well established. The point should be to find some additional benifit from training ic seperately.

Doing front kegel as a "group", improves erection angle (makes stand higher) , I should expect ic traing to do this, so again the question is does it do it better than straight front kegel training.

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I'll give feedback too. Right now I'm a little on the sore side, so have been taking it easy. Seems much easier to get sore here than the other pelvic muscles. (but I"m also sore around my body from other exercise so that might play a part too)

I cam isolate this muscle but of course don't have pre e . The use of kegel strength and rk in anti pre e methods is well established. The point should be to find some additional benifit from training ic seperately.

Doing front kegel as a "group", improves erection angle (makes stand higher) , I should expect ic traing to do this, so again the question is does it do it better than straight front kegel training.

I think everyone who does a semi-strong kegel activates their IC to at least a little. I'm starting to wonder if the people who say, "whenever I do kegels I only improve, no need for any other exercise like reverse kegels for me" are people who already have a strong IC that don't get overwhelmed by their BC strength.

Then there are those of us who claim short lived benefits from kegels, then all of the sudden we need to do reverses or else we are worse off than before. When we kegel normally our IC hardly does any work while the BC dominates it. Just hypothesizing, but would make sense.

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Could be ,but then some people do heavy squats all their lives with no hamstring work and have no issue , or heavy bench press with no r-cuff work and no issue. Some some people just get lucky.
Perhaps you are saying that the ic being a smaller muscle tends to be a weak point. So the bigger muscles woud take the work and the ic would tend to underdevelopment ,at least in some cases?

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This is really starting to make sense to me. Doing a regular front Kegel (at least for me) Seems to be bc Dominant While the ic Plays a small role. It still gets some work and strengthens a little but not much.
My bc and pc are pretty strong from my early masturbation habits. Always been able to do a lot of kegels and holds from the very beginning. When I isolate the ic however I find I can't hold it very long at all 1-2 seconds max. My AOE isn't bad but angles upward only slightly, so I'm very interested to see what happens in the coming days.

Also the theory held by (I believe) thebigbookofpenis (that name makes me laugh everytime) about the dorsal nerves and PE, and a weak ic muscle not being able to constrict the feelings of the nerves could be a valid one.

This forum kicks ass! So many people coming up and figuring these things out together. So valuable to us who've dealt with this shit for so long. Keep it up guys, awesome stuff!

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Reminds me of the old days when a group of us worked on rk.

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Reminds me of the old days when a group of us worked on rk.

i hope we can come up with some good stuff for other members on here. This is how conclusions are made for benefits of others. i can say from personal experience that IC muscle definitely has an important role to play in AOE.

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I played around a little with this and I can locate it to some degree but isolating will be another thing entirely. One way you can somewhat feel and isolate it but not for long is to get an erection somewhat close to PONR (so that it is as hard as it can be), and simply bob your penis continually. In other words engage the muscles necessary for your penis to rise then release it and then engage it again. It will start to bob. As you do this focus on the bob and after a while the other muscles will kinda tier out and you will be able to somewhat isolate it, however the more important thing here is to actually become aware of the muscle.

I am not fully sure of course but I think that is the IC muscle. I will leave to more experienced people to test it out and confirm or deny it.

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You are being modest MM . I too am happy for new players to test this though.

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Could be ,but then some people do heavy squats all their lives with no hamstring work and have no issue , or heavy bench press with no r-cuff work and no issue. Some some people just get lucky.
Perhaps you are saying that the ic being a smaller muscle tends to be a weak point. So the bigger muscles woud take the work and the ic would tend to underdevelopment ,at least in some cases?

certainly seems to be the truth. Isolation allows it a chance to catch up. But it seems like isolation isn't the exclusive answer. When doing a semi-normal kegel I found that if I try to push the kegel forward that I'm using the IC more, giving the IC a chance to do hard work. Thinking 'forward motion' really helped for me. Other people of course might not find any sensical mental connection with that.

I played around a little with this and I can locate it to some degree but isolating will be another thing entirely. One way you can somewhat feel and isolate it but not for long is to get an erection somewhat close to PONR (so that it is as hard as it can be), and simply bob your penis continually. In other words engage the muscles necessary for your penis to rise then release it and then engage it again. It will start to bob. As you do this focus on the bob and after a while the other muscles will kinda tier out and you will be able to somewhat isolate it, however the more important thing here is to actually become aware of the muscle.

I am not fully sure of course but I think that is the IC muscle. I will leave to more experienced people to test it out and confirm or deny it.

I'm not sure if anyone is super experienced with the IC here, but your overall experience is much higher. Anyways, whatever it takes to become aware definitely seems to be the winner at first. I'm at a point to where I have a decent mental connection now (strength is another story). But there were many times where I 'semi-accidentally' worked the IC, then the mind/muscle feeling went completely away after a few reps. Kind of bizzare. But when I came back after rest the mind/muscle connection returned.

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I find that standing with legs spread about shoulder length helps to isolate a lot easier. Sitting or any other position I flex the BC quite a bit.
Just a little update here as well. Been doing these flexes for 3-4 days now and my dick was a bit sore last night. This morning though seemed to be ok. My wife and I had sex this morning and my dick felt rock hard. More so than usual. I was extremely aroused so I thought for sure I'd blow maybe even by slight touching...never happened. When I penetrated I was able to thrust about 7 times before I blew. Doesn't sound like much but I usually blow as soon as I get all in.
After about 5 min or so I was rock hard again. Now a little background here, everytime it takes me that long to get hard again and we start again I blow within a min or 2. This time though I found myself in complete control and after about 15 min I decided it was time and blew.
I don't know if this means anything at all (after all it was after the first ejaculation) but it seems to hold some weight if you ask me.
By the way, I don't think I've ever been able to reach the level of EQ I had after the first round before. I think this is a significant step up. I'll keep you guys posted on future sessions.

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I find that standing with legs spread about shoulder length helps to isolate a lot easier. Sitting or any other position I flex the BC quite a bit.
Just a little update here as well. Been doing these flexes for 3-4 days now and my dick was a bit sore last night. This morning though seemed to be ok. My wife and I had sex this morning and my dick felt rock hard. More so than usual. I was extremely aroused so I thought for sure I'd blow maybe even by slight touching...never happened. When I penetrated I was able to thrust about 7 times before I blew. Doesn't sound like much but I usually blow as soon as I get all in.
After about 5 min or so I was rock hard again. Now a little background here, everytime it takes me that long to get hard again and we start again I blow within a min or 2. This time though I found myself in complete control and after about 15 min I decided it was time and blew.
I don't know if this means anything at all (after all it was after the first ejaculation) but it seems to hold some weight if you ask me.
By the way, I don't think I've ever been able to reach the level of EQ I had after the first round before. I think this is a significant step up. I'll keep you guys posted on future sessions.

So you mean to say that flexing IC has helped you in overcoming PreE and improving EQ? i have definitely noticed improvement in EQ and AOE.