RisingHope's Journey to cure PreE

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Day 34(July 7th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Normal fatigue after DO. Relax for the rest of day.

Observations:Woke up like 40 later than I wanted to. No time for DO,so I just brushed my teeth and grabbed my stuff to do some Fledging. Very good EQ this morning.6 just thinking about shoving my dick inside lol. Was a bit reluctant because I wanted to wait until I did vacuum mod to edge but meh. Put some lube and...fvck got the wrong bottle. This one only has enough lube for one squirt. I'm supposedly taking a shit so I can't very well go back out and grab the correct lube bottle. Oh well, I'll edge until it gets dry and then stop it there. It went without an hitch. Like usual,arousal goes up around 5min mark but nothing too dangerous. I continue until 15 min mark where I get near lvl 8 arousal. I take a deep breath+ some RKs. I continue until 18 min mark but lube is drying so I stop it there.

Total time: 18 mins.

I'm ready for war on PreE. My goal is to reproduce the kind of intensity that makes me cum in 30 sec like real sex. That way next time I'll be ready. STU is already pretty intense and hopefully, vacuum will bring out it's full potential. Otherwise I might buy something even more intense like Obsession sleeve. Also thought of adding vibration to sleeve although I don't know it'll help or get in my way. No porn,No audio, No picture until I get used to all the new sensations(vacuum suction,vibration)

The only fear I have is getting DE but I've found no one reporting DE from Fleshlight.

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Hope rises as he advances his attacks in the war against his greatest enemy.

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Day 35( July 8th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed the whole day. No DO training cuz...

Observations: I woke up late again. I set the clock early just to have enough time for DO and I have the nerve to oversleep lol. Don't mean to diss on DO but sometimes it's a pain in the ass lol. Necessary but still long if you want to do it properly without straining yourself. I shudder thinking about how much time the .5 sub levels take.

Anyways, like yesterday, edging as soon as I wake up. Not even brushing my teeth lol. Good EQ again, no prob there. Got hard,stayed hard! My only goal was edging so I went and did my thing. Didn't have a goal in particular. Around 12 min mark, starting to reach lvl 8. Took a deep breath+ RK and calmed down. For some reason, for like 30 secs I got numb. Ruined it all by thrusting like a madman until numbness went away and reaching PONR lol. Then I danced around PONR for 8 mins or so by only thrusting my glans inside Fleshlight. At 20 min mark, was doing fine but that one stroke pushed me over the edge and I came. To my surprise, first wave of semen shot up instead of dribbling. Total time: 20 mins

A little anectode. The only time I was able to shoot my load was once. In my youthful folly, I was paving the way for PreE by teasing myself with a light grip while watching porn. This lasted about 2 hours. When I was finally ready to blow it, I rushed to the toilet and started stroking for real. I came but instead of letting it go, I pinched my foreskin over urethra, creating a pressure build-up. I was squatting in front of toilet. When I let go of foreskin, I shot it all over the outer edge of toilet bowl hahaha! 1ft or so.

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Day 36( July 9th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Slightly tense upon waking up. Did my DO routine and since then I've been relaxed all day. I'm ready to move on to Sublevel 0.3...next week.

Observations: No problem waking up today. DO routine then hopping on for some Fledging. No problem with EQ, instead of playing with balls, just rubbed magic spot. Shoving my peen inside, pretty uneventful session tbh. Well not completely uneventful... I was just messing around with thrusting tempo. I'd go fast and shallow,then slow down with full thrusts,focusing on what I feel. Didn't have to stop until 12 min mark.That's where I start reaching level 8 arousal. Continued until 15 min mark and called it quits. Wanted to do some ballooning with palm of hand, but meh not enough time. I'll have to find a way to have a separate ballooning session. A good 15-20 min of rubbing to reduce sensitivity. I'm so sensitive, I can get hard from water coming out of shower faucet and hitting my magic spot. Dead serious. I was just trying it for fun but now I see where my problem lies.

Finally got my credit bill, now I can spend some more! My 1st buy was of course, material from Fleshlight.com
Went ahead and got myself a sleeve warmer,vibrating bullets,Fleshlube Water and Ice bottles and another sleeve: Bulletproof.I keep reading about how ''realistic'' it is and tbh it does seem to closely imitate the vaginal contractions and how vaginas are tighter at the entrance. Reading some of the threads that pop up here, I had more than enough food for thought. Here's another update to plan:

Routine doesn't change much. To give it a name I'd say it's the 5-day routine inspired from this post by MM

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ml#post1065351

Day 1: Watching ''porn'' before edging and turning it off. Edging for a set amount of time rather than 1st PONR
Day 2: Watching ''porn'' and keeping it on during edging.Edging for a set amount of time rather than 1st PONR
Day 3-5: Just follow 3-day routine lol.No porn though.On Day 5, MM says to release it however you like, but I say to make that session extra long and slow. Hence why I got Bulletproof. Less intense than STU but more realistic. Good for long sessions.

I've been intrested for a while by 3 supplements touted to help with PreE. Mucuna pruriens, St John's wort and phenibut. Was looking at cabergoline but way too risky and expensive,although it totally KILLS refractory period.

I'd take Mucuna and St John normally, every day. I was already searching about phenibut and some people said it made them last forever. After reading this post, I had all the proof I needed.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ml#post1093126

I'd use Phenibut during ''release day'' in combination with Bulletproof in order to have super long edging sessions and progress faster by getting used to high arousal/intensity over long periods of time.

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you can use Htp5 but don't use with st John.

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Day 36(July 10th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed. 'Nuff said.

Observations: Lol, alarm managed to wake me up. I got up,entered code on phone and shut it down. I say to myself: time to get up...and I fall asleep and wake up 45 mins later. No time for DO again... I woke up but instead of edging I ballooned for 15 mins since I was saving ejaculation for later...!. Anyways, I get hard, put a few drops of lube on the palm of my hand and start rubbing magic spot. So freaking intense that's it's almost painful. Doesn't help that I have calluses on hand lol. Went at it for 15 mins and called it quits.

Now the scary part. Ok so I'm done ballooning and expected erection to die down. But it didn't. 3 mins...5....8...10. Starting to get legit scared and already searching about priapism. Wondering if I damaged a blood vessel but I highly doubt it even though I squeezed base of penis a bit(medium strength ok grip). Around 10 mins, finally getting semi hard. Another 10 min to go from semi-hard to ''flaccid''. Flaccid was so engorged that I thought I was still semi-hard but since I could bend it like a spagetthi, quickly revised my judgement lol.

Ballooning gave me a boner that lasted 20 mins without any stimulation. The only thing I regret is not ejaculating to see if I could still stay hard that way.

Thanks to Priority Mail, I got my Fleshlight order today. Impressive as always, how I ordered something yesterday and got it today. My anticipation has been through the roof this week. I've been eagerly waiting to use Bulletproof and Vibro Bullets.Those things are intense though. IMO with right positioning, just one is overkill. Now imagine 4 of them that stimulate you with each thrust. They don't last super long either. I'll save them for Phenibut mode...when I get some.

I gave the Fleshwarmer a go. Not bad at all. I didn't warm it with lube on but that's for next time. I rush to toilet as soon as I can. I get her butthole all ready for my cawk by putting a bit of lube. I shove my peen and...that entrance is tight like a vagina. Don't know if it's anticipation but within 30 secs I was reaching PONR. Best way to use this is definitely with small amounts of lube. It really tugs my foreskin and shaft like a handjob this way. I have to start-stop. Put some audio of a slutty girl from reddit GWA begging to fvck her while being very wet. I do this for 4-5 mins before deciding to just thrust and blow it. It's been a while since I've had an orgasm this intense. Whole body glistening with sweat,hypersensitive glans and I'm just smiling. Phew.

Tommorow is the day of rebirth for my Fleshlight case. It shall become a vibrating vacuum sucker!

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Day 37 and 38(July 11th and 12th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed.

Observations: Tis' the week-end. No edging per say but... did some ballooning on Saturday for 15 mins. Still an ordeal of sensations and with legs and whole body tensing from sensitivity. Was able to withstand it better. No 20 mins boner this time though =(. A bit of laziness on my part, used Bulletproof with vacuum mod and...Oh boy. That thing is intense..and noisy. Yes it does suck you a lot. Was only testing waters so I let myself cum after 3 mins or so. My penis felt the same way as if I jacked off. I'll continue edging with it for this week but it's going to be quite a challenge to edge with this intensity. Now I'm only waiting for c-ring to arrive through mail for some good training.

Speaking of things arriving through mail, went ahead and bought some things for EQ/Ejaculate volume.
Some L-arginine and lechitin. Already had pygeum and zinc on hand from past attempt. The holy grail of cum. From past experience, I can tell you this works freaking well. During 3rd sexual encounter(massage parlor with happy ending), I was on this stack. The hottie stroked my and I blew a huge white load. She wiped me off but there was another spurt from deep within that was almost as big as the first one. She was a bit surprised. My experience with Arginine was mainly for training and unfortunately, I didn't pay much attention to effects. Mucuna and SJW will be arriving near end of month. Waiting for money to get some Phenibut and pure Icaarin (expensive!, like 50$ for 5g)

I've been pretty lax with porn and tbh I don't have problems with it now. Sure I go on reddit to hear raunchy audio or check a few curvy girls on gonewildcurvy but it doesn't last long. I don't watch mainstream hardcore porn either. The main reasons I watched porn was boredom or negative feelings. I can deal with boredom better. Days are busy but pretty uneventful. It's either thinking about PreE or bodybuilding. Those are the two things I must conquer to move towards real goals. But that's rambling I'll save for another post someday.The point is when boredom or negative feelings strike, you have to let yourself soak in it and accept it instead of running away to porn.

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Day 37 and 38(July 11th and 12th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed.

Observations: Tis' the week-end. No edging per say but... did some ballooning on Saturday for 15 mins. Still an ordeal of sensations and with legs and whole body tensing from sensitivity. Was able to withstand it better. No 20 mins boner this time though =(. A bit of laziness on my part, used Bulletproof with vacuum mod and...Oh boy. That thing is intense..and noisy. Yes it does suck you a lot. Was only testing waters so I let myself cum after 3 mins or so. My penis felt the same way as if I jacked off. I'll continue edging with it for this week but it's going to be quite a challenge to edge with this intensity. Now I'm only waiting for c-ring to arrive through mail for some good training.

Speaking of things arriving through mail, went ahead and bought some things for EQ/Ejaculate volume.
Some L-arginine and lechitin. Already had pygeum and zinc on hand from past attempt. The holy grail of cum. From past experience, I can tell you this works freaking well. During 3rd sexual encounter(massage parlor with happy ending), I was on this stack. The hottie stroked my and I blew a huge white load. She wiped me off but there was another spurt from deep within that was almost as big as the first one. She was a bit surprised. My experience with Arginine was mainly for training and unfortunately, I didn't pay much attention to effects. Mucuna and SJW will be arriving near end of month. Waiting for money to get some Phenibut and pure Icaarin (expensive!, like 50$ for 5g)

I've been pretty lax with porn and tbh I don't have problems with it now. Sure I go on reddit to hear raunchy audio or check a few curvy girls on gonewildcurvy but it doesn't last long. I don't watch mainstream hardcore porn either. The main reasons I watched porn was boredom or negative feelings. I can deal with boredom better. Days are busy but pretty uneventful. It's either thinking about PreE or bodybuilding. Those are the two things I must conquer to move towards real goals. But that's rambling I'll save for another post someday.The point is when boredom or negative feelings strike, you have to let yourself soak in it and accept it instead of running away to porn.

Very interesting log. I see you are a fellow Canadian; Quebecois. I got my Phenibut from Canadaprotein.
Don't use it as a supplement. Use it for sex with someone you actually like and want to keep. Otherwise just keep edging and practicing without supplements. That's the long term solution.

Also, no need to do all these supplements. Keep it as natural as possible.

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well said!!

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TBH, taking most of these to enhance mood/boost EQ. It just so happens that there's a connection between mental state and ability to last longer,therefore, most of these become a possible PreE aid. About the phenibut, It's mostly curiosity since I read it makes men last longer and give both men and women mind-blowing orgasms. It's not something I'll abuse. Once a week, on release day, to enhance my pleasure. Same reason for EQ/Ejaculate stack and cock ring. To enhance pleasure on release day.

I know what you mean though. The last thing I want is having to rely on some powder or pill to have sex,especially with Phenibut, something you can only take once or twice a week. That would mean only doing it once per week and as a young dude, sometimes I feel like I could bang every day(If I had a girlfriend that is...hahaha).But when taken with moderation, I can use it to temporarily access plateau phase and get used to those sensations.

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Day 39(July 13th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Hints of tension upon waking up. Did DO routine and no tension afterwards.

Observations:
1st official day of edging with vacuum mod and...I blew it of course. I watched erotic videos to get into mood but...I dunno, it's lacking lol. Too sensual and girly and not enough moaning. Switched to another video, a girl with nice breasts, now that's exciting. No IKs. Watched for about 15 mins.Meanwhile,I warmed Fleshlight. Shoved my peen inside with a nice pop sound. Started thrusting at usual speed. The first 20 secs were fine. Level 7 arousal. then in 10 sec quickly climbed to near PONR. Hmm I have a feeling of deja vu. Oh right! My last sexual encounter. I might have a chance after all if I stick to this. I do start/stop for 3 mins. Around 3mins, precum flows. I resume my start/stop and at 5mins, I blow it....? Don't know, it's a reflex I have when edging. When I'm cumming I always try to go for DO. Did it somewhat properly. Held my RK before I started thrusting. I don't remember if I kegeled or not but I think I didn't. Partial ejaculation and I stayed hard. Resumed again with a bit of numbness. Start/stop and around 7 mins mark I lost a bit of EQ. Got it firm again. Start/stop and at 11 mins, I blow the rest of load(tiny).

Total time: 5 mins.

Lesson learned. Super slow thrusts+ stopping whenever it gets too intense. I guess I should be happy it was this hard. Conquering this should put me on the right path. A bit of chaser effect through the day. Pretty strong desire to have sex. But finding females to have casual sex...I'm not looking in the right places although I don't care anymore. Deleted Tinder,POF and OKCupid ages ago.Tbh I don't stand a chance as I am right now. I'm not in hunting shape yet. Body is pretty good but I have the fat from ''bulking'' to get rid of.
Just did my 15 ballooning. I can now withstand the rubbing without my body tensing up. I just take a deep breath while stimulating myself instead of holding it. Lol made a promise to myself. If I manage to not blow it during edging for the rest of this week, buying myself a nice blowjob and unloading it all over some hoe's face. With ejaculate stack, it's gonna be messy for sure hahaha!

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Day 40(July 14th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed. Did DO routine and still fine for rest of day.

Observations: Fledging like usual. Set the porn aside for now since it's already hard enough as it is. When I'm used to sensations, I'll consider it. Set up all my gear and tbh, it's suspicious as fvck. Surprised parents aren't asking more questions, when they see me pass an extension cord under door and into the toilet for Fleshwarmer lol. Ugh how I wish for privacy,unfortunately, can't move out yet so I'll endure it for another 2 years. Forgot to plug extension cord before so I couldn't use the warmer. Quite a mistake...

Warmed it up the old way. Hot water. I balloon a bit to get erect and start it. Hmm it doesn't suck at all? Wtf? I thrust anyways for a good 5 mins before reaching level 8-9 arousal. I stop and feel something coming out. Probably precum...nope. A bit of cum dribbles out. EQ dropped a bit but nothing a bit of touching can't fix. At this point, Fleshlight is pretty useless. Because of how I modded case, I can't use water to warm it up or else it just leaks air without sealing itself. Might have to buy another case but for now it'll do. Had to set it aside and use my good ol' friend, Mr Righty. Lol just realised it's been about 2 months since I've used hands to stroke my penis for more than 10 secs. I'd randomly stroke my penis sometimes, but I'd quickly stop. Guess I have a bit of trauma. I know it's not hands fault that I have PreE, but I'm somewhat reluctant to stroke myself.

It wasn't that bad though. Made a small hole with pinky and index to simulate the tighter vaginal entrance. Moved the rest of fingers rythmically to mimic poosay. It was somewhat fun but awkard. Around 9 min mark, another round of dribbling cum but no orgasm. At 12 mins, I get near PONR but at this point I'm just bored and stop it there.( not very diligent I know.) Total time: 12 mins?

Lesson learned( Sure like saying this lol). I'll set up my sh!t beforehand. I had a pretty bad case of blue balls for half the day. If I didn't fantasize about sex that much on top of it, I might have been able to evade it.

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Day 41( July 15th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed. DO routine and still relaxed.

Observations: Fledging once again. This time I managed to set extension cord to use Warmer. Playing with peen in the meanwhile. Once warming is done, I just shove peen inside. I thrust and no problem for the first 3 mins. I pause to warm up Fleshlight again. Stroking myself in the meanwhile (2mins). I thought I screwed up my case but it might be fine actually. Bulletproof is supposedly realistic, but it's one of the more tame sleeves. Not too intense. Around 7 mins mark, precum leaks out a bit. No problem there. I continue thrusting at slow rate and at 10 mins mark...
Same phenomenon as yesterday. A bit of cum flows out. EQ lowers a bit and I become numb. I stroke myself to fully hard again. I start thrusting inside Bulletproof and... I don't feel it that much anymore lol. Obviously, I just proceed to pound it like a madman. At this point I use a bit of imagination and whisper the name of a girl I want to fvck badly. I imagine that she's the one getting her sweet butthole pounded like that by me. 1 min of that and I feel PONR. I stop for 10 secs. Arousal completely resets. I re-position myself and do some piledriver thrusting. Even in this ''mode'', it's too intense. Going back to doggy and I'm nowhere near PONR, but I don't feel much either. At 16 mins, I just call it quits. Total time: 16 mins.

The best way I can describe this ''mode'' is by comparing it to second round during sex. I'm fully hard but numb and the only way to get near PONR is to pound like a madman without stopping. If I pause for just a bit, PONR just dissapears into thin air and I get to restart again...if I'm still hard. Eventually numbness fades and you can cum like usual. Imagine cumming this way and then going for an actual 2nd round. Just RIP Vagina. If your EQ stays at 8-10 the whole time, you pretty much become a pounding machine.

Anyways, going to use STU tommorow and observe my reactions. Cheap Silicone C-ring finally arrived through mail and hopefully, they'll help with keeping my EQ during ''Pound Mode''. They look so cheap I wonder if they'll even do anything lol.

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Day 42(July 16th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed. DO routine and still relaxed.

Observations: Fledging ''fun''. Got my gear and peen ready. Today's sleeve was the STU. After the warming was done, I thrusted and... not bad. The vacuum is not optimal but it still does the job. I think I screwed case up lol. The idea is good but the air valve doesnt work unless I put manually seal it with my finger once air escapes. That's when it really sucks like a vacuum. Feels like an intense gum blowjob. Didn't figure that out until after edging session though...

Anyways, it only gets weirder from here on... Wanted to use cock ring but...it doesn't work. No blood being trapped, the ring is too big? I had to quickly give up on it. I just continue thrusting until 7 min mark...Small quantity of oozing cum. Ok, I'm in ''Pound Mode''. I thrust with more intensity and continue until 9 min mark where...Cum oozes out again. EQ drops a bit and I have to stimulate myself. I resume thrusting until 11 min mark where...Cum oozes out again. At this point, I'm legit wondering what's going on. Each time cum oozes out, the quantity gets smaller. At this point I'm struggling with EQ. How I wish cock ring worked. I finally get it up and numbness ensues. This continues until 17 min mark until penis just turtles out. I ''give up'' at this point...or not. A few minutes later, I seal Fleshlight and just stroke it over penis like I'm jerking. The intense stimulation gets me hard again. After doing this for a min or so, cum oozes out for the 4th time. This time though, it's just a single droplet of sperm. Also, a single spasm when it shot out.

Total time: 17 mins.

After bath, Decided to try cock ring again. I put it over flaccid penis and stimulate myself. It's working...! I can see some veins on cawk and it looks engorged. I feel like an idiot lol. I was just rolling it until it touched pelvic bone. I only had to insert balls and stop at visible base of penis. Well derp...

It took 4 instances of oozing cum to get a single spasm. It wasn't an orgasmic spasm though. Basically a part of semen gets out bit by bit without me orgasming? Erections are still possible with some effort. No refractory period. Only regret: not going for a 5th instance. I think at this point I would have simply had orgasmic spasms without semen. In other words, DO?

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Day 43(July 17th 2015)

Pelvic Floor state: Relaxed. DO and still relaxed. Going for 2x per day next week.

Observations: ...I feel so fvcking depressed. Man I'm so stupid. Yesterday, on a whim I started watching some porn. Wasn't even horny or anything but there was no one around so I fooled around. I ended up binging for pretty much an whole hour. Going from video to video. I wasn't excited at first but at the end, I was feeling pretty horny. I started stroking a bit but feeling that I was going to bust it quickly, I stopped it short. Didn't want to further reinforce link between naked women and quick ejaculation. Anyways, fast forwarding to today...

I get ready to do some Fledging. Gear is set up, Cock ring...not working for me. I get hard anyways and start thrusting. Arousal rises so freaking quickly, that after 30 secs, precum leaked from tip. I begin doing start/stop in an attempt to calm down but nope...at 1:30 mark, I blow it. I stay on my knees, dumbfounded and can only say one thing: WTF? Then I remember...oh right, I binged on porn like a retard yesterday. Want to see the effects of porn on stamina? There you go.

Total time: 1min 30 s

How foolish I was. Thinking I could coexist with porn. I have to completely get rid of it. I've been grouchy and tired the whole day. You know what? I should just get rid of it FOREVER. Just like how I've stopped drinking soft drinks like Pepsi and Coke since I was 13. Am I dead? Nope. I already managed to stop porn for 40+ days. I should just go all the way and get rid of that sh!t forever. Brings nothing to my life.

Also, concerning ''Pound Mode'' as I called it. I'm happy to see signs of progress, but I should try to avoid doing that. I wanted to blow a big load but when I came,it was just a small quantity lol. I was ejaculating all along, just that it was part by part. Otherwise, after abstaining for 4 days, it should have been a sizable quantity. Next time I see cum oozing out, I'll either do a Kegel or RK. I'll try both to see what they do.

On a side note, to all cockring users here. What's a good cockring for beginners? Something adjustable, nice on the skin. I had my eyes on either

Amazon.com: Dr. Joel Kaplan Erection Enhancing Lasso - Black: Health & Personal Care
or
http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Shift-Co.../dp/B009TERWRM. Mixed reviews on both lol. Suggest me some or share your own experience.