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  • simpler ( bit offensive ) way to look at pre e.

    I am now almost 100 % sure that pre e is all physical. I have always thought it was mainly physical.
    Arousal plays it's part, anxiety as well, but they're only factors that are already there, already part of it, in all men pre e, average or sex gods, buy the physical ones are not.
    The lack of physical stimulation demanded by the body to reach orgasm is what causes arousal to push one over the edge. For those who think " why have I ejaculated with no stimulation" would all fall under the most severe case, where the lack of physical contact has diminished so much over time, it's not even needed in certain situations. This is also why I think wet dreams occur, for most guys they happen at puberty, maybe here and there in their teens, then they stop. Guys with pre e can have them regularly.
    The physical indicators we look for are erection, how quick we get erect, ik's before or while getting erect. Ponr, when ik's spasm, how long before it hits, how long before orgasm.
    It's all quick, quickly erect, quickly have ik's, quickly reach ponr and quickly orgasm. It's not arousal, arousal is there and should be at it's highest. From masturbating and having sex quickly and rushed to orgasm for most of ones life, nothing past that has been developed.
    What helped me understand this better is looking at it this way.
    A guy with pre s is like a fat guy. Years of bad habits have depleted all physical stamina, galandular problems or slow metabolism are just minor factors. When he tries to do some physical work for any amount of time and can't, he decides to work on it. He goes to the gym but after 1 min jogging, stitch, legs spasm, he drops to the deck. He doesn't think there's any chance of fixing this, gives reasons to why it ain't working, tension in my legs, over exhaustion, low something or other levels. But it's simply because he's not pushing himself, consistently running and exercising, workin through the pain. When he does do that and improves slightly by the week, it becomes easier and easier, he becomes more comfortable, more in control. No one gave him x boosting supplements, no one sped up his metabolism. Just consistently running longer and harder and demanding more physical work.

    Thats the metaphor, running is edging.
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  • #2
    Your entire post made even less sense to me than believing that the world is only 10,000 years old.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SXEUXT View Post
      Your entire post made even less sense to me than believing that the world is only 10,000 years old.
      It's ok buddy, at least you tried, chin up.
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      • #4
        I'll have to agree with you LLN. Years of conditioning your body to respond in a certain way is hard to overcome. It takes work and progress comes incrementally.

        People with Pre-E didn't develop it over night and overcoming it will require a lot of effort practicing the things that counteract the first learned behavior.

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        • #5
          I somewhat get what you're getting at, but it seems to me that the fact that the brain controls everything in the end is incorrect in your opinion.

          "Arousal plays it's part, anxiety as well, but they're only factors that are already there"

          It seems to me like you are saying "but everyone has these, so they don't apply as cause of the problem."

          Even though you could be right in the end, I find your arguments and the information you build upon to be somewhat lacking in strength.
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          30-01-'15: BPEL: 6.4" EG: 5.1"
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          LT Goal: BPEL: 8.0" EG: 6.0"
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          • #6
            It is lacking, I'm still up half pissed and the was the best my brain could come up with. But I love metaphors.
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            • #7
              This makes total sense to me.

              I think the metaphor is spot on and agree habits are far more at fault than any pre wiring our brain had or didn't have to pre e.

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              • #8
                I honestly think this is so legitimate this has been happening to me after i've been doing LLN's routine that he set for me.
                It is now taking longer for me to get erect rather then instantly, I'm not sure how long I'd last now but im sure its longer than it was before. I totally agree with you here matches what happens to me and as i am still quite young i believe its an easy fix. I regret being that uber horny teen, as it's put me this way but I'm so glad that you guys are so supportive of everyone's cases and want to help them get better. I haven't seen my girlfriend in months because I've been at med school i see her in 1 month and hopefully she is going to be shell shocked at what happened.

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                • #9
                  Xesos what routine are you doing right now? At the moment I don't have a strict routine I am doing just doing what feels right. Mostly like 60-80 RK's for 3 days one day off and edging every day when I can. Edged with porn without etc. now I think I will focus on edging without anything and really focus to get rid of my kegelclench.

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                  • #10
                    Years ago the mainstream medical thought all pre e was mental . Even though I had never had pre e I just thought this was plain wrong. I thought I had some insight into the physical side of pre e and worked with guys here on it .
                    The mental aspects I leave to others .

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                    • #11
                      A lot of yours and minuteman's posts were my basis for what I know, and beating it, so thank you.
                      And immac.
                      longerlastingnoob
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                      Last edited by longerlastingnoob; 01-21-2015, 04:41 PM.
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                      • #12
                        I read a study that showed those with PreE can have potentially on average ~twice~ as many dorsal nerve branches -- so it's also quite possible that physical body type engenders other PreE type habits: Dorsal penile nerves and primary premature ejaculation. - PubMed - NCBI
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                        • #13
                          No such thing as primary pre e, pre e is acquired.
                          A Game of Bones. A Stretch With Rice And Fire.

                          Start1/04/15:BPEL:7.1 MEG:5.2 -1/07/15:BPEL:7.2 MEG:5.4

                          Edging For Premature Ejaculation./
                          Pelvic Floor Balance./
                          Minute Man'snKegel Master List./ Reverse Kegels./
                          JP90 Routine./ Conditioning Your Wang.

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                          • #14
                            Well I think you can have a higher chance achieving it my brother has it and my dad had it.. We are naturally very tense and stressed people must be some sort of relation right?

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                            • #15
                              Great post LNN. I definitely agree that years of, well masturbation, to hurry up and orgasm is the main cause of Pre E. But I wouldn't says its 100% physical, mostly yes, but mentally I think still plays a significant role. I wouldn't say I have Pre E but when I have sex I have to keep my mind off of how good she feels or its game over. Also, when my wife starts to moan, especially when she says she is about to cum its extremely hard for me not to cum too.
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