Try it out and report back: high fat low carb and/or intermittent fasting

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

So quite a while ago, I did some intermittent fasting where I also consciously upped my fats and lowered my carbs to at most 100 grams in a day, probably around 85-ish on average. Now I only did this a few days, but the benefit in regards to premature ejaculation was quite obvious and significant. But perhaps the cause was something else.


At any rate, I would seriously be very interested to see if anybody else sees the same improvements. Ready set go. Do either or both. You know you want to, and if you see results like I did you'll be glad you tried. I'm currently doing high fat low carb, not doing intermittent fasting, but I have confounders at the moment. Only been at this a couple days. Still, I've been seeing good things.

[Blackindabed Member Find all posts View Profile Close Blackindabed]

I've been on IF high fat low carb for almost 6 months now along with calisthenics. Lost 9kg but my PE is still there. I must mention that me PE is not super severe. I can last forever with blow jobs but I'm a bit of a 10 pump chump otherwise

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

Thanks so much for the feedback Blackindabed!

Do you know exactly how many carbs you get in a day or do you eyeball it? And how many would you say you get? Is your protein above 80g? You said IF, what window length do you use? Do you have off days? Since you diet is mainly fat, what types of fat sources do you use? Animal? Vegan? Mono/Poly/Saturated? Refined oils? Whole foods?

I ask because this may all be part of the reason in your case (or my hypothesis may just be fully off, though as I said, I see great effects for myself). My you, I'm vegan, eat extremely healthfully, favor organic, avoid polyunsaturated vegetable oils in food products, and stick mainly to the healthier olive/coconut/whole food sources.

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

I've been on IF high fat low carb for almost 6 months now along with calisthenics. Lost 9kg but my PE is still there. I must mention that me PE is not super severe. I can last forever with blow jobs but I'm a bit of a 10 pump chump otherwise

You need to practice thrusting and in various positions.

[Blackindabed Member Find all posts View Profile Close Blackindabed]

I follow the 16 hour fast variant where I do not eat anything between 8pm and 12pm the following day so basically just skipping breakfast. As for watching macros, I don't really specifically watch what I eat, I just stay away from general carbs like bread, cakes, potatoes etc and I load up on boiled veggies in olive oil, fried or boiled eggs, I might have a crumbed Parma which has a little bit of carbs in terms of the bread crumbs, avocado, nuts etc. I think when I say low carb I just generally avoid bread/cakes/biscuits/HFCS. I try to load up on veggies and I do take in a bit of cholesterol and fats in the forum of eggs nuts and tuna. In terms of oils, I use clarified butter or olive oil. I don't count calories per say or measure and weigh my food intake. I eat a moderate amount and do my calisthenics. If I start gaining too much, I decrease my portions. It has helped tons with my sex drive. High carb low fat diets caused my testosterone to plummet. Stupid fucking doctors think they know everything and recommend silly diets that feminise the male population. One thing I must mention though is that I once tried to drop all carbs and ended up with something called a ketone flu that was pretty horrible

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

Hey, so I just saw Blackindabed, you do contribute some sexual benefit to your HFLC intermittent fasting. Cool.

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

I was just reading an article that mentions that fructose metabolism leads to an increase in uric acid, and uric acid blocks nitric oxide synthase. So I was just thinking, perhaps that is part of why I see benefits from high fat low carb, especially being a vegan who eats lots of organic fruits: less fructose, more nitric oxide. It makes sense to me, because several other things that improve nitric oxide are always good result producers for me: citrulline malate, pine bark extract, etc. And, when I think about it, the effect of high fat low carb produces similar changes in my dick: more supple, less sensitive. And if fructose indirectly suppresses NOS, glucose may do the same thing to some degree, more or less.

[corageon Banned Find all posts View Profile Close corageon]

I was just reading an article that mentions that fructose metabolism leads to an increase in uric acid, and uric acid blocks nitric oxide synthase. So I was just thinking, perhaps that is part of why I see benefits from high fat low carb, especially being a vegan who eats lots of organic fruits: less fructose, more nitric oxide. It makes sense to me, because several other things that improve nitric oxide are always good result producers for me: citrulline malate, pine bark extract, etc. And, when I think about it, the effect of high fat low carb produces similar changes in my dick: more supple, less sensitive. And if fructose indirectly suppresses NOS, glucose may do the same thing to some degree, more or less.

'Fructose metabolism' doesn't necessarily describe an effect caused by fructose...metabolism indicates the substance is being broken down..so fructose may not a good idea to chock up on.
Insulin plays a role in nitric oxide as well..

I don't agree with depleting carbs completely, but low-carb diets are alright depending on definition of "low".
You are right though, you should definitely use fruits/vegetables for healthy circulation.
Beets and spinach both contain nitrates which acts as a direct conversion factor for nitric oxide production..this bypasses the need to convert from Arginine.

[Jaw Breaker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jaw Breaker]

Have you tried carb cycling? I can't stay on low carbs ... it makes me want to gouge out my eyes.

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

You misread me corageon -- I meant when eating just however, I eat many fruits. So when I go low carb high fat, I reduce fruits from unlimited and high to things like berries and whatnot, so my fructose content must drop pretty drastically. The original article, down the page at the summary of minute 0:58, mentions the fructose->uric acid->NOS relationship. I could be reading it wrong. Sugar 101 - How harmful is sugar? - The Eating Academy | Peter Attia, M.D. The Eating Academy | Peter Attia, M.D.

I have beets, and have been upping my vegetable-sourced nitrates.

I'm not anti-carb, I have no need to lose weight, I'm just sharing that I see benefits to prejac with high fat low carb, and intermittent fasting (the best I saw was both at the same time). In my case, by low carb I mean 50-100g, based on my desired intensity at any particular time.

I'm going HFLC again starting today, with a goal of maxing out around 50g for now. I've been in a very good state, prejac-wise lately, with some factors being pine bark extract, working out, meditating, and regular long unhurried sessions with myself. I'll be curious to see if I note a boost from HFLC. If I do I'll mention it. If I don't, I'll mention that too

[Kinslayer2 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kinslayer2]

I used to actually fast but always had PE. My diet was poor for the most part as all I ate was a starch and a meat. Like potatoes and chicken or pasta and steak. Didn't really notice an effect on my PE. But if not eating from 8pm to 12pm is considered fasting then I do that most days. I used to fast during the daytime and could sometimes go a whole day without eating but never noticed an impact on PE.

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

Thanks for the input Kinslayer2. That definitely would count as intermittent fasting if you only eat in an 8hr window.

Me, I eat really healthfully, high organic, high raw, no colors/fake sweeteners, no poly vegetable oils etc. etc. etc.

[NakitoMiyashi Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NakitoMiyashi]

I've been on all-out ketogenic diet for months with daily carbs under 25g. I also do IF with max 8h eating window, most of the times it's more of 4 hour window.

My protein is about 1.0-1.5g/kg BW (0.45-0.68g/lbs) coming from red meat, whole eggs and some fish
I don't count fat but I eat them until full. Butter (regular and ghee), olive oil, coconut oil, olives, avocados, minimal amount of nuts (hazelnuts, macadamia)
Carbs only from some veggies / salad

This did and still does wonderful things to my body and mood but sadly did nothing about my PremE

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

Thanks for the input NakitoMiyashi =)

[chajadan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chajadan]

So I'm only about two days in, but I wanted to report.

The first day there was a mild difference, which could have been written off as placebo.

Second day (last night), there was a notable difference. It can be hard to describe, but I'm just less overly sensitive.

Today, going into the 3rd day, and on some level I feel as sense of lost anxiety, though, I haven't been having anxiety lately. I still notice certain triggers and a weirdly calm or calmer response. (I read ketogenic diets possible up GABA).

I wonder if the vegan element helps in my case. Body chemistry is so weird and individualized -- with some of the benefits I see I'd expect more confirmation from others, but yet to get much at all.